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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:18 PM Original message |
No, DU is not anti-Christian. It is anti-bigot, anti-hypocrisy, and anti-theocratic. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. I attend a liberal Christian church every Sunday |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
80. Could you tell me about your jesus? nt |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. I don't think that the "vast majority" of DUers are theists. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Polls show that the majority of DUers are |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. A plurality of DUers identify as atheist, agnostic, or "spiritual but not religious." |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. ummm ok but what we are talking about then is a healthy reciprocal respect |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. "on its face incendiary and utterly inaccurate." |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
52. Look, yours is a religion which claims moral superiority over all others |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
93. Christians are not almost invariably right wing whackos... |
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Duncan (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #93 |
162. I believe smoogatz was refering to those christians who are |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #162 |
183. 'zackly. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
168. 'my religion' doesn't. the heretics in my religion do. attack hypocrites |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #168 |
182. So, you don't believe that only those who accept Christ as their savior |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #182 |
198. no. I am a Christian- non denomination. I follow the path of Jesus, not the fuckers who |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #198 |
200. But Jesus said |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #200 |
204. I think that the meaning of Jesus, built into a mystical point of view |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #204 |
205. Now you're denying Biblical infallibility. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #205 |
207. I agree, sweets. Try reading the new books about Jesus by |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
54. I can't see why such a bright group of individuals... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #54 |
133. They don't want to - persecution complexes are more fun. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #133 |
169. you can include atheists in that 'persecution complex' too. just read |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #169 |
185. Atheists are a tiny minority in this country. We're also the least accepted |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #185 |
197. I expect the same tolerance to the 'tiny minority' of us who are |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. Why aren't atheists allowed to "evangelize"? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #199 |
201. who says they can't? and if they do, if some turn them off, welcome |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #201 |
202. Not for me, thanks. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #202 |
206. I agree. I have oceans of Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons coming |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
101. Er, I don't think you have the right to "expect respect" for asserting that the Earth is 6,000 years |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #101 |
112. Perky didn't say she believed the Earth is 6,000 years old her post. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Where did I *SAY* all Christians believe that? See, this is part of the problem. |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #114 |
155. From a point of view of respect, word choice is the key. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #155 |
181. Fine. But the fact of the matter is, creationism is being pushed as science. |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #181 |
195. Wouldn't an atheist feel attacked if someone said that atheism was idiotic? |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. the belief is actually not that new among the rightie christian crowd |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #112 |
135. "God" is a parable. Ever consider that one? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #101 |
134. Exactly. Where religious people get the idea they deserve automatic respect... |
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personman (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #134 |
161. I was raised Christian, and I agree. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
105. "The" creation myth? I've heard dozens of them myself. n/t |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
132. Criticizing beliefs will never be an attack on you, no matter how much you may wrongly think it is. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
158. I'm a Christian and that's not my experience here |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. The credibility of anonymous web polls, esprecially here on DU, is ZERO |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
115. Yes, seeing as Atheists are pretty much expected to remain invisible in most parts of U.S. Society |
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Sander (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
156. DU'ers are not monotheists? |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
175. I couldn't agree more |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
104. Did you ever notice how all those "practical" deities-- |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #104 |
172. these deities say nothing. their mouthpieces have done that. if |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
166. I'm kind of in that boat. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. I do rain dances naked at night, and bay at the fool moon. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. I see very few broad-brush attacks on Christianity here. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Some of us do not believe that the right wing fundamentalists are real Christianity |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I agree with you on all counts. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Thank you |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Why discriminate? I say ALL religions are cults |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Any system requiring a certain mindset might then be a cult |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
150. Careful how you step... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
38. Sadly they are a cult. They follow whatever the |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. If they lost the tax exempt status |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
56. Sadly, I see them all the time |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. Actually that is just about what I am posting about. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #56 |
137. And yet, those statements ring true, considering the lack of evidence for gods. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #56 |
154. Religion can indeed be an opiate of the masses. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
136. That's because you don't nurse a persecution complex. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. sounds about right to me |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. Generally, DU is anti-dogmatic. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. In general perhaps, but there are highly dogmatic elements |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
67. Seconded. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
53. Yes, I'd agree with this. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. I said this another another thread already today, but |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Some of us believe that Christianity is about a loving mindset. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. And others believe that gay people are to blame for Hurricane Katrina, |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. If you read my post at the link, you will see where I come from |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Too bad there aren't more like you. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I know. It is really frustrating |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
184. Does that mean we'd have to take... |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. If you don't think you can enter the public arena as a Christian |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Nice post |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Thank you. I was so grateful that you put this thread up. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Many believe that you don't have to be Christian to have a "loving mindset". |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. No. That is true. But |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. "a formalized religion gives structure and community to that mindset." |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
55. Nice word twisting. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. We have an Evangelical COUP going on in our ARMED FORCES |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. I guess I count as the religious left |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #74 |
100. And you need to speak up. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #100 |
106. You are right about that |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. I am glad of that. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #100 |
174. I think that we all have an EQUAL obligation to speak up ... |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. Thank you for standing up |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
36. I read the same post |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
63. so reading the opinions of bigots is good for the reader? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Religion is not analogous to race or gender identity. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. it's not about critiques |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Okay, let me make your argument for you |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Has anyone on this board tried to impose their religious beliefs on you? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Not directly, but there are plenty of anti-choicers and creationists |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I agree that that right wing "Christians" are aggressively recruiting |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. I have no quarrel with you and those who believe as you do. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. And peace to you too! |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:51 AM Response to Reply #84 |
127. there are anti-choicers and creationists on DU? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #127 |
178. They come out of the woodwork from time to time-- |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #127 |
179. They come out of the woodwork from time to time-- |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. you seem to think I am talking about you |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. What makes you think that? Because I use myself as a rhetorical example? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. you seem to forget that not all DUers follow your example |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Fighting back against what? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:11 AM Response to Reply #94 |
129. you have been trying to redefine religiophobic for me |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #129 |
180. Okay, so it's about people. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:36 AM Response to Reply #77 |
141. Man, you win so hard. What a great way to break it down. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
107. The science fiction writer James Blish was once asked-- |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #71 |
140. Atheism is not chosen; it is the default position. |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #64 |
121. "Gender Identity" and homosexuality are not synonyms. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #63 |
138. Religion is chosen; race and sexual orientation is not. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. madfloridian, very well put.... |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
15. Anyone who claims to know what God says does not know anything |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. They deny anything that doesn't suit them. There is already one stating they are |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Are you referring to me? |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Well of course you and your mind can make up your own religion, and the |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
65. Excellent response |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. We know God through our empathy with others |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. That's your theology. This is a political message board - not a church. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
111. You can believe in or know God in a spiritual manner, but you can not say you know what God says |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
25. It's pretty lame-brained to believe there's a "DU concensus" on anything |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
68. How so? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
108. Some people would disagree about the very term "war" on Iraq |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #108 |
125. Semantics. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:36 AM Response to Reply #125 |
145. Or "framing"--this is pretty important n/t |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #108 |
126. Semantics. |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
29. DU is not one thing. It's a mass of things. nt |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
99. agreed.. I was a bit surprised to see it narrowed down as it was |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #99 |
109. I made it too narrow? |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
31. Amen sister! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Hi there. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
72. Clearly those people only read chosen parts of the Bible... |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Maybe someone can correct me on this, but wasn't infallibility a 19th century invention? |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
35. Well, now...let me say this about that... |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. This is a really good post |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:40 AM Response to Reply #35 |
142. Secularism works! |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
40. DU is a community- and some people within this community |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
44. I just don't care about religion. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
45. DU isn't anti-Christian, but quite a few DUers are |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. Ah! That would be me. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Deleted message |
ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Yet they'll vote for a Christian. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
86. I thought post #57 was very cool |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
92. Why? Do you need to have your beliefs ass kissed to vote for |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #92 |
122. Lol, so you regularly vote for people |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #122 |
149. Where did you get "atheism = people who think you're an insane idiot"? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #122 |
167. Why not? |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Did you mean to say lots of humility? If not, my bad. nt |
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YankmeCrankme (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #57 |
81. You need to freshen up on your crusades history |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #81 |
113. I didn't go into as much detail. But... |
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YankmeCrankme (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:11 AM Response to Reply #113 |
130. First of all, I'm not your average moron... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
173. That's what i love about DU ! I'm a Christian and want to work WITH YOU |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
88. so far after 83 posts |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
46. I'm very committed to Christianity and Roman Catholicism (although I lament some of the decisions of |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. Nice post. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
47. Thank you, madfloridian, for responding to that. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
48. That would RULE! |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
50. I am not anti Christian |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
69. People don't like being told how to live their lives, nor what to believe. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
70. Often, that's code for anti-christian-nt |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
73. anti-fundamentalism also. Good post,thanks. |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
78. Well Done Bravo |
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cmkramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
83. Actually there are quite a lot of bigots on DU |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. alot more freepers i would say attempting to make du look bad.... |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #90 |
103. Exactly |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 07:20 AM Response to Reply #103 |
148. Really? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
91. Thank you, mad..I was going to |
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Miss Chybil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
96. I've always wondered if it's o.k. to be bigoted towards bigots. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
97. DU has a forum for Christians no? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
102. This man's influence on my church had a devastating effect on me. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
117. actually, i am pretty much anti-christian...but i despise all religion(s) equally. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. But one or two or 3 people does not make the site that way. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. you should be- |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Well, you are just as judging then as the religious right. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 06:06 AM Response to Reply #120 |
146. it's not just you- it's everyone who is idiotic enough to believe in a mythical deity. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #146 |
153. Well, call me a moran then. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
123. Sick of having my real life messed with by fantasy beleivers |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
124. "I am anti that type of Christianity" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Well, I tried. I really did. I tried to word it right. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:48 AM Response to Reply #128 |
144. And of course, hating christianity is not hating Christians. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #128 |
188. No, I understood your message - I really did. And I appreciate it very much. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #124 |
143. You know, we're allowed to be, and we don't need your permission to be so. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
131. Great post. I'm anti-religion, but that applies to ALL unfounded religious beliefs. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #131 |
171. That point is continually missed |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
139. I said my piece on that subject |
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Dragonbreathp9d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
147. Though I would say I am Christian |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
151. I almost quit coming to DU because of the ridicule when I merely |
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mr blur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #151 |
163. I certainly accept your right to believe, |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #163 |
187. Worthiness is a two way street. |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
152. Like I've said before |
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RevCheesehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
157. ..... |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #157 |
159. what? Run out of communion bread to nibble on? n/t |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
160. "I am an infidel," he insisted. "I know what an infidel is, and that's what I am." |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #160 |
193. Thank you, Sequoia! |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #193 |
194. You're welcome. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
164. Mad, you knew Al Mohler? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #164 |
189. And his family as well. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. I think that it's all about money and power ... |
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ryanus (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
165. I'll take that as a yes |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
170. Truth invites testing and questioning |
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Handsome Pete (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
176. FSM said it, I believe it, that settles it. |
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HonorTheConstitution (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
177. madfloridian, congratulations! Can't say it better. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
191. Your thread header shows itself to be false. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 02:15 AM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Original sin is abusive. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #191 |
196. I am a Christian. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #191 |
203. 'But it's always open season on Christians.' |
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