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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:49 AM Original message |
If you are busy and intent on spreading the lie that Democrats aren't DOING anything . . . |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. Recommended! |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. Democrats in Congress (Kucinich, et al) |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. it's an impressive document |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
77. yep. |
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fazoolius_2006 (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. Sounds like a full court press is in the making. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. More: Conyers seeks Contempt of Congress against White House |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. So you go to jail for contempt of court Do you go to jail for |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #39 |
74. Second that question and wasn't Rice already served with a subpoena? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. they are still squeezing information out of Rice's minions |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
5. Issuing Subpoenas is All They've done |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. That's the process. It makes no sense at all to try and jump past the subpoenas right now |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
6. Only Congress can declare war. |
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firefox_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Yup, Prez cannot declare war. |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. hear, hear!!! please remember that the msm is not |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
10. Anyone who doesn't believe the Dems are doing anything needs |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
11. Sterling post, bigtree. Granted that this is more monumentally |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
12. My sincere hope is that Congress is stealthily securing information |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
13. Kicked and recommended! NT |
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firefox_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
14. Prediction: They may get close to getting them and then... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. best foot forward, firefox_fan |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
17. Does this mean they're gonna inforce the subpoena against Rice? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Clinton's republican pests were operating behind the Whitewater Committee |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Or hold Gonzales in contempt? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. who thinks this AG, under investigation, has the power to long withstand pressure |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I hope you're right. n/t |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
21. It is clear that Bush* et al will be allowed to Run Out the Clock. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. there really isn't a viable substitute for the due process of law that our democracy provides |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. This is what I believe as well, bvar, based on observations over the last |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. I'm with you |
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onethatcares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. as much as I hate to, I agree |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
50. I don't share the enthusiasm either; what you said, bvar22. nt |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:58 AM Response to Reply #50 |
63. How do you intend to support efforts now underway in Congress to hold this WH accountable? |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
24. The only time I get frustrated is when a Democrat says impeachment isn't,... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I don't think just any old impeachment will do |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Not sure what you mean. But, how much evidence does it take? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. What you are asking for is to sidestep other important functions of justice |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. What are you talking about? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. I'll tell you |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Well, you do not point out how I am suggesting sidestepping, as you asserted. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. he'd also note that Congress took awhile between his revelations and their Articles of Impeachment |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
26. Notice that Associated Press is deafeningly silent on the matter of White House subpoenas |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
27. So they served and enforced the subpoenas? They cut-off funding for the illegal war? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Does ANY political prosecution usually happen in six months? |
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kikiek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. What's unerving to me is how this administration has taken control. Without the |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. or, we care enough to keep fighting |
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kikiek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. Yeah I'll keep fighting. Just some days I feel like quitting. It passes. |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
33. There are a hell of a lot more things congressmen and congresswomen |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
34. I think what we want is some kind of result or outcome once in a while |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Right wingers always get behind their members' efforts |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
37. When will they hit the courts? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. as soon as our party members decide to spend their time pressing their demands to the republicans |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. You really think this administration is going to be prosecuted |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. You can do most anything in a day |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Sorry, but I'm not buying it. The leadership decided impeachment |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:45 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. the leadership did what was politically prudent for their ability to manage their affairs |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:49 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. They are not impeaching because some democrats refuse to no matter how grave |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:03 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. they don't see the benefit you do in moving to that at this point. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Will I accept their explanations? |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
43. Depends on what "doing" means to you... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Due process isn't a gift to the accused, it's an integral part of justice |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I must be particularly obtuse today, 'cause I don't think I got the point of your reply... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I imagine that the opposition would view their causes in a similar vein |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. You miss my point... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Bush has not killed due process. |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. They are, nonetheless, dead or dying... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. You can't solve everything with an impeachment |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
79. But you can deal with three key issues... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I think that, in this Congress, most anything Democrats haven't been able to resolve in committee |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
44. Hear hear! |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
58. sorry. i'm just getting a little cynical. (or a lot cynical) |
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AnotherMother4Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
60. Main Stream Media is doing its best to portray this Congress as unpopular & ineffective |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
61. Is it a lie, or is it that you cannot face the Truth? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:51 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I think protesting and knocking down everything they do short of impeachment as ineffectual hurts |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
64. subpoenas get issued . . . BushCo refuses . . . SCOTUS upholds them, 5-4 . . . case closed . . . n/t |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. SCOTUS support is a far sight away from the point in which we could force them |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
67. I watched them grill Whitman yesterday!!! GO DEMS |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:49 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. that was impressive. she blamed the 'terrorists' for their negligence in the clean-up |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
81. I get so tired of this 'they were all heroes' bullshit the GOP loves to echo. |
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harlinchi (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
73. Dadgum. That's what I've been trying to say. You just say it better! |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
75. They funded the war until September. Thats something. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. they funded the soldiers who were stranded by their failure |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Keep telling yourself that. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
83. I don't fault Dems in Congress for doing nothing, I just think they need to be bold in their efforts |
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