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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 07:16 PM Original message |
Can you explain why an obstruction charge does not carry the sentence of the crime obstructed? |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. That's too logical. It's what I was thinking, too |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. Because it's a different crime? |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. H2O Man claimed Fitz said as much. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. well investigating possible espionage |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Right, We don't know who committed the crime because of Libby's actions. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. No |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. And who says they even *know* what crime has been obstructed? |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. In general Grand Juries know what crime they are investigating. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. The latter. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Surely you have some evidence then. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
8. because a person could "obstruct" out of affection who would never commit the crime itself |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Exactly |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I haven't made that claim. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
13. Actually, it should probably be like conspiracy, which carries 1/2 of the conspired offense. |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
14. They were investigating whether the identity of a covert agent |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
15. If there's a successful obstruction, one, by definition, does not know |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. Fitz asked for a Minimum sentence of 30 Months and a Maximum of 37 Months. The scumbag got the |
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