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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 12:59 PM Original message |
What if Bush’s mercenaries turn on us? Is BLACKWATER his Praetorian Guard? MUST READ |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. Long ago concluded it's not a question of *if*, but *when*. n/t |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. If these "mercenaries" had balls, they would join the real military! |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. these mercenaries are mostly ex-real-military |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Indeed |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. True. |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. They already have |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
62. They aren't sworn peace officers or federal agents - where is the ACLU? |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
63. Every dime spent on those corporate hacks could buy 10x more military and sworn officers |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. a kick for visibility n/t |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. run out and buy a copy of "red dawn" |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Who is the 'they' in this sentence? I've just begun to read about |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. "they" is major League basebaLL |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Uh huh. Makes a lot of sense. |
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Jazzgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Wise, I am from Missouri and I remember when they |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. I will supply you with the link shortly! I have also become very |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Hey Jazzgirl! Here are links to the YouTube and Wiki ... |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. an eerie moment |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
76. From Wikipedia on Pruitt Igoe: |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. Wouldn't the members of Blackwater have the same status as bounty hunters, |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. This is something I would like to know, too. |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
74. ACLU should tackle this |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. One caller to the Malloy show brough this up after putting the pieces |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. I would consider them traitors and have no problem doing the ... |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Tryanny always needs its bodyguards. I have worried about this |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
12. The only difference between the Decider's mercenaries and, say, the Friekorps |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
13. What do you mean by "if"? it's a matter of when. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. I recommend your post... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. A blackhawk helicopter was recently used.... |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
64. "corporations now run everything" Why should "islamo-fascists" |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
14. They did: Katrina. K & R nt |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
15. and we have the halliburton built concentration camps to go along with it,. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Exactly. While you were posting this, I was writing the same thing and |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Your point in #18 is absolutely chilling. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. Worst case scenarios for Bush keep on turning out to be a bust. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. This dovetails with Bush's "Dictator Edict" - he will declare an emergency |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
20. In combination of him weakening the US army - I've been worrying about this for a while |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. This is why they have always played down the crime statistics |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. I guess the constitution provided the 'bear arms' |
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enfield collector (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. someone needs to tell boxer, feinstien, schumer, clinton , dodds et al |
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nykym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
23. OK but lets remember that there are |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
24. Marines will kick Blackwater's ass again. n/t |
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ringtailtooter (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
26. Just read full article on Common Dreams and the comments, WOW. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Good advice. And welcome to DU!!! |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. welcome to DU! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
56. It's all very scary n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
30. Well, that'll be a lot of dead black, gay, jewish, and hispanic people. |
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Golden Raisin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
34. Just curious. Have any of the Democratic |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
36. a kick for visibility n/t |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
37. I'm somewhat worried about this. If our military brass in the Pentagon |
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RL3AO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
38. As long as the U.S. Gov't are signing the checks, I think it will be ok. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
39. Then the 2nd Amendment as an individual right will become even more important than ever. |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
42. chilling |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
43. There's a reason they exist and I'm sure the reason is NOT for what we've been told. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
44. another kick for visibility n/t |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
45. No what ifs about it. WHEN. These Praetorian Hessians will mow us down without a thought |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
46. kick n/t |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
47. notice crime stats spiking-fed sends in anti crime teams |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
48. Another post on this important article here: |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
50. This article appeared first in the Philly Inquirer and the author is a Pulitzer Prize winner |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
51. some rather scary parallels with the Hundred Years War, when the mercenaries took over |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
53. ***More about the top brass of Blackwater from an article from last summer: |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
54. Uh... they're mercenaries, all we would need to do is pay them more.. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
55. No tinfoilhat needed...look no further than Katrina. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. thanks for the i mportant article..a couple years ago i read a study done |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. Hello Fly - yes, that sounds all too true, that a mercenary force |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
60. They want to build a base in CA to "respond" to earthquakes. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Chilling indeed. Sounds like they're ready to step in when * declares |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Great to read you, Hope. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
61. Thank you K*R You answered a question. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Yes, the fact that there are no numbers available for armed paramilitary |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
69. They used Blackwater mercs all over the Gulf Coast after Katrina. |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
70. This is the nightmare we have all known bu$h regime is capable of |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
72. This is a very scary example of rampant fascism in our country |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
73. Unfortunately no. The Praetorian Guard would have slit his throat |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
75. Bringing our own troops home is the only solution... |
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