TYT: Cenk Goes On CNN Headline News To Defend Gen. Clark!

[ihavenobias]

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Also watch Cenk's thoughts on Fox News Altering Photos Of Reporters: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x153801

Also watch Cenk Rant Against Fox News Channel And The Pseudo Democrats They Have On: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3551780&mesg_id=3551780

And check out Cenk & RJ Break-down Fox News Bias And Right Wing Framing On Fox & Friends: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x153459

Finally, make sure you know 3 Facts That Could Change This Election (If We Share Them With Enough People): http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6430781

PS---Keep in mind that you can download the first hour of The Young Turks free every day through Itunes. Also, the show loops 24 hours a day at www.theyoungturks.com . Finally, there is great news for XM radio subscribers: The Young Turks will be on starting July 14th!

[mwb970]

1. "It's appeasement, Chris!"

Where in hell do they get all of these right-wing talk-show hosts that nobody ever heard of?

[mwb970]

2. Also, who is the interviewer?

I assume he is one of mccain's campaign staffers. He and the wingnut are particularly annoying in this clip.

[1Hippiechick]

15. Ben Ferguson, Conservative Radio host, based on what I heard

[ExPatLeftist]

3. Way to go, Cenk! K&R n/t

[autorank]

4. I like it so much I tried to red it twice;)

Good for Cenk. He's been on target since he started. And here he handles the cable fool extremely
well.

This is great. I like people who stick up for their side and don't back down. I like them
in particular when they're right as rain. Cenk is. Terrific stuff.

[CherylK]

5. K & R!!! Cenk needs his own TV show!

He really handled himself well here. The best was at the end when he kept saying 'we were right, you were wrong'. Loved it!

[Window]

43. Way to go Cenk!!! He really does need his own show. K/R.

:kick:

[Muttocracy]

6. Wes Clark just sitting around in AC? Wasn't Clark in Vietnam too?!!

[ihavenobias]

8. Cenk was talked over when he tried to call out the conservative pundit on that point

Clark came home in a stretcher and was shot 4 times. He never talked about that when he ran for president in 2004 (unlike a current nominee who drops his service in damn near constantly, directly or indirectly).

So I never knew that about Clark until his son (Wes Clark Jr) came on TYT earlier this week to tell the story. Annoyingly there is no youtube clip of it, probably because Wes asked Cenk not to put one up...at least until his Dad is officially the vp (or not the VP). That's my guess anyway.

[Muttocracy]

10. The GOP talking heads clearly use talking over their opponents as a technique

makes me FURIOUS! They're wrong but they're loud :grr:

[1Hippiechick]

19. Had posted before I read your response, and I agree 1000% about drowning out others - no longer a

debate when that happens. As I posted below, I would have preferred Cenk jumping in and interrupting that RW :rant:

[gateley]

37. And I heard he was injured while trying to save the lives of other soldiers. nt

[The Wielding Truth]

73. Clark came home in a stretcher - was shot 4 times. Who knew?

[faithfulcitizen]

54. Um, yeah, shot 4 times and managed to still save those in his command- WHILE BLEEDING.

What a jerk. He really shouldn't comment about things of which he is ignorant.

[Muttocracy]

65. while complaining about Clark dissing McCain's service (which Clark didn't)! ARGH! nt

[flashl]

7. Cenk sets the record straight, they are crazy. K/R nt

[robinlynne]

9. Yeah, Cenk going on the MSM. our voice!

[matthewf]

11. K&R!

[johnlal]

12. Perfect response.

Cenk was arguing with two talking heads here. Whoever was supposed to be a moderator was, of course, taking McCain's side. The man-crush runs deep.

[IndependentDem]

13. Cenk is my hero. n/t

[ihavenobias]

14. I forgot to mention, TYT is NOT the "new morning show on Air America". They'll be on XM 7/14

The host of the show screwed that up which is annoying.

[rhett o rick]

21. I believe that the XM channel is called "Air America". It includes shows from

other syndicates.

[ihavenobias]

22. Actually, it's called America Left...

"...XM takes a 'left' turn, KIST takes a fall (why won't the hyperlink work for me? This link will probably won't work either but it'll give you an idea: http://ltradio.blogspot.com /2008/06/xm-takes-left-turn -kist-takes-fall.html )

"In a not-so-surprising move, XM Radio is retooling it's "Air America" channel (XM167). Come July 14, the satellite provider brings back its former name - America Left.

The channel will still carry Bill Press, Ed Schultz, Randi Rhodes, Thom Hartmann and Mike Malloy. They are also adding Stephanie Miller and The Young Turks. Miller will likely take the 9A-noon shift currently held be Lionel. No word on what role the Turks, who left Air America earlier this year to do an internet-based afternoon show, play in this grand scheme. The show initially got its start on rival (and soon to be partner) Sirius. And there is no word on possible time shifts for the channel's current offerings..."

PS---I just found out, TYT gets the 8am-10am EST time slot which is not bad.

[rhett o rick]

46. Thank you very much for the updated information. I very much appreciate your posts. nm

[IndependentDem]

27. yeah i heard about that on the show the other day...

do you know what the other big announcement is going to be?

[ihavenobias]

29. There are some other things in the works

The only one that's a lock that I know of is the Meet The Bloggers that kicks off this month with BraveNewFilms hosted by Cenk. I'll be posting a video about it within the next couple of weeks, hopefully sooner rather than later.

[IndependentDem]

30. do you work for them?..

They mention you pretty often on the show...

[ihavenobias]

31. Do me a favor, email Cenk and tell him to send me a check every two weeks!

I'd love to work for them, but seeing as how I live in Chicago and they're in L.A., that's probably not going to happen. :)

But it's still my favorite talk show (Hartmann and Maddow are second) and IMO, not enough people know about it. Cenk distills important issues down in a way that makes it easy to understand, and he provides passion, insight and humor (a rare combination, you're lucky to get 2 out of 3).

If we want to win the information war and make this a better country, we need more people like him in the media. I do my part and help share the clips.

[IndependentDem]

32. awesome... i watch the show every day...

I'm a member (just basic since I'm broke) but i completely agree with what you said. it would be bitchen if he had a show on msnbc or something.

[gateley]

40. When I get a job and get some money rolling in,

I'll buy us BOTH an upgrade membership. :hi:

[IndependentDem]

55. AWESOME!!

:hug:

[underpants]

16. The RW hack almost fell over his own talking points there at the end

I was actually surprised that he didn't said "elitist"

not towards Clark or Obama just blurt it out for no reason

ELITIST!!

[opihimoimoi]

17. Pubs sniping small shit...nit picking really...how come they not talking OVERPOPULATION?

RISING SEA LEVELS, NATIONAL BUDGET/DEFICIT, National DEBT????

Health Care?

Wrong War?

No Osama?

No Victory in Iraq?

Why are they talking Small Shit???

Is McLames brain geared for small shit? his jokes are for cheap laughs...sign of an ignorant arrogant asshole...

[1Hippiechick]

18. "It's not about experience, it's about judgment!" & "dog-and-pony-show in Iraq" - favorite lines.,

BUT, my one complaint is that Cenk didn't jump in and interrupt the Ferguson jerk who ranted in the typical Repuke non-stop carpet-bomb verbal attack!

[Jack Rabbit]

20. Cenk is absolutely right

Senator McCain's heroism in Vietnam certainly doesn't disqualify him to be president. Far from it. It speaks to courage, a quality we would like to see in a president and one that is in short supply among leading politicians nowadays.

However, it is problematic as to whether the same kind of courage that saw McCain through bombing missions and five years in a POW camp could be transferred to the kind of courage it takes to be a political leader. Even if it does in McCain's case, we would do well to remember that courage was only one of four cardinal virtues of ancient Greek philosophy. The others being temperance, justice and wisdom.

Since McCain still thinks the Iraq war was a great idea and still thinks it can be won by some criteria or another, it is evident that McCain lacks the wisdom and judgment to be president and that no display of heroism in Vietnam could give him any.

That is why I am voting for Obama.

[ihavenobias]

23. Amen n/t

[90-percent]

66. Good writing, there!

Takes the whole deal and goes right to the core of the matter: "Iraq" = "good" = judgement of one unfit to be President.

-90% Jimmy

[Clark2008]

24. Good!

How come the only person defending Clark is another talk show host? Why are no DEMOCRATS from the party highs coming down to defend him?

[Frisbee]

28. It would requires a spine...

something they are lacking. Actually, defending Clark would be a slam dunk, but they probably figure there are no political points to be scored, so why bother.

[kmac3]

63. Working together ? for a better America . . . .

"How come the only person defending Clark is another talk show host? Why are no DEMOCRATS from the party highs coming down to defend him?"

Makes one wonder how we can win as a Party when we can't stick together and come to each other's aid during unfair, biased political attacks.

[fascisthunter]

25. I Really FInd it Interesting as to How the Host Framed the Debate

nah... there's no bias there....

[Sunnyshine]

33. Notice how they did not show Scheifer asking the question using the words "shot down in a plane"?

That would explain Clark using those same words in his answer. Truthful context is not a priority for CNN.

[fascisthunter]

34. EXACTLY... the Statement was Taken out of Context as well

as being manipulated as something it wasn't.

[rebel with a cause]

61. "Good points, Chris. I knew there would be."

Clearly no bias. :sarcasm:

[JNelson6563]

26. I have a new-found appreciation for TYT

The first time I saw it I was most unimpressed. Clark Jr was on there acting like a jr. high school student with his mocking tones and such.

Since then I have seen many clips here on DU and my opinion of Cenk has only gone up.

Rock on Young Turks. :patriot:

Julie

[DeeDeeNY]

35. Good to see this!

[gateley]

36. First words out of Cenk's mouh and he nails it:: Two different issues.

(By the way, it wasn't necessary for the CNN guy to ID Beaver Cleaver there as a 'conservative' radio talk show host -- that was painfully obvious. And Beaver called Cenk "Sink".)

And, Barack, Clark DIDN'T discount McCain's service or sacrifice -- did you LISTEN to him, or just get the soundbites?

Speaking of soundbites, the clip they ran at the beginning of the segment was edited. It was Bob Schieffer who used the term getting shot down over Viet Nam, and Clark was just saying that (getting shot down over VN) didn't necessarily qualify a person to be President.

And again, Cenk made note that McCain's military history and his service on the Committee in DC are TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES. They problem is everyone wants to wrap these separate issues into one package.

Nobody is going to listen to Cenk's excellent comments because this is an emotional issue (which it shouldn't be!). I'm so sorry Clark said it that way, because nobody will ever hear the real meaning and truth behind it.

And I'm pissed at Obama for his comments regarding this (hadn't seen that clip before). He could have handled it better.

Fact is, and we've learned, we have to not address the fact that McCain's POW experience can't become a topic of debate - we've seen what happens. Rightly or wrongly, it can hurt us. And that pisses me off.

[Juan_de_la_Dem]

38. Cenk is my guy from now on. I think he is consistantly on point. K&R

[Sunnyshine]

39. Cenk set em' straight. His final analysis: "You were wrong, we were right." eom

[Coexist]

41. that was awesome!

[ForeignSpectator]

42. Kept thinking : "Out of which mom's basement did they drag out THIS RW keyboard warrior?"

They seem to turn up everywhere...

[navarth]

44. Folks, please consider joining The Turks, they could use the money.

Not that they're in big trouble or anything, as far as I know....but they need members. I just put them on the payment plan, I think it's 10 or 20 bucks a month. But it all adds up.

Most of you have jobs or some kind of income right? Pony up, people....The Turks are one of those shows that actually DESERVE support.

And BIG UPS to ihavenobias for keeping them good posts coming.

[ihavenobias]

47. It's only $10 a month for basic membership and...

People can always watch the show free 24 hours a day at the site, but being a member means you can download podcasts of the regular (politics) show and the (politics/current events/entertainment/a ton of fun) post game show, including video of the post game shows.

And anyone can sign up for a free account at www.theyoungturks.com and create a username/profile so they can join the live chat and or blog in the forum.

And again, you can download the 1st hour of the show free every day through Itunes.

[CJCRANE]

45. Clark took four bullets in Vietnam.

That conservative idiot impugned his service IMO.

[The Wizard]

64. Using conservative

to define an idiot is redundant.

[ooglymoogly]

48. Cenk is an excellent debater and pounds these creeps where it hurts

using truth as a mallet. This issue is clearly hitting them where it hurts. kr

[lazyriver]

49. Cenk will be the next Rachel Maddow.

I'd like to see him tear Pat Buchanan a new ass on live tv.

[OhioChick]

50. K&R

:kick:

[Plucketeer]

51. Silly-ass word parsing!

Four more months of this crap. :dunce:

:crazy: Really??? What it boils down to is this..... Assume you're a jet fighter pilot and you're shot down. Assume you survive and float to the ground with some injuries. Forget the fact that prior to this, you were a reckless, hot-shot, boozing, schmoozing, bottom of the class, daddy's coatttail rider. Forget all that. Just try to justify walking up to this guy as he frees himself from his parachute harness and saying to him: "Wow! That qualifies you to be president of the USA!"
:puke:

[mirrera]

52. "You were wrong and we were right. You were wrong and we were right..." Favorite close ever!!

[faithfulcitizen]

53. Did that piss ant just say, Clark sat around in his air conditioned office in NATO?? Uh huh,

...after getting shot 4 times in vietnam, saving his comrades, and struggling through physical therapy for years! Yeah, it only took 34 YEARS of service to get to that "air-conditioned office"!! Not to mention rappelling down a mountainside to try to save the lives of young men in a burning humvee- IN HIS 50'S!! Yeah right, General Clark hasn't earned the right to discuss (not devalue) anyone's else's service? What BS! :mad:

General Wesley Clark: National Defense Medals & Awards

Defense medals and awards include the
• Joint Meritorious Unit Commendation Ribbon
• Defense Distinguished Service Medal (with 4 Oak Leaf Clusters)
• Distinguished Service Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
• Silver Star Medal
• Legion of Merit (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters)
• Bronze Star
• The Purple Heart
• Meritorious Service Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
• Army Commendation Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
• Kosovo Campaign Medal
• Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge
• National Defense Service Medal (with Service Star)
• Army Staff Identification Badge
• Viet Nam Service Medal (with 3 Service Stars)
• Combat Infantry Badge
• Parachutist Badge (Airborne)
• Ranger Tab
• The Army Service Ribbon

General Wesley Clark: International Awards and Honors
International awards and honors include the
• Honorary Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (United Kingdom);
• Commander of the Legion of Honor (France);
• Grand Cross of the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany;
• Knight Grand Cross in the Order of Orange-Nassau, with Swords (Netherlands);
• Grand Officer of the Order of Merit of the Republic of Italy;
• Grand Cross of the Medal of Military Merit (Portugal);
• The Commander's Cross with Star of the Order of Merit of Republic of Poland;
• Grand Officer of the Order of Merit of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg;
• Grand Medal of Military Merit (White Band) (Spain);
• The Grand Cordon of the Order of Leopold (Belgium);
• Cross of Merit of the Minister of Defense First Class (Czech Republic);
• Order of Merit of the Hungarian Republic;
• Commander's Cross, The Silver Order of Freedom of the Republic of Slovenia;
• Madarski Konnik Medal, Order of the Madara Horseman, First Class with Swords First Class with Swords (Bulgaria);
• Commemorative Medal of the Minister of Defense of the Slovak Republic First Class (Slovakia);
• First Class Order of Lithuanian Grand Duke Gediminas (Lithuania);
• Order of the Cross of the Eagle (Estonia);
• The Skanderbeg Medal (Albania);
• Order of Merit of Morocco;
• Order of Merit of Argentina;
• Grade of Prince Branimir with Ribbon and Star (Croatia) and
• The Meritorious Service Cross of Canada.

John McCain
- Silver Star Medal
- Navy Commendation Medal
- Legion of Merit with a combat "V" and one gold star
- a Distinguished Flying Cross and a Bronze Star Medal with a combat "V" and two gold stars.

[IndependentDem]

57. sadly no one knows all of this...

thanks for putting it all out there.

[rebel with a cause]

62. This is a rush limbaugh wanna be..

He can't bother with the facts. :puke:

In fact, he can't handle the truth. ;)

[Frisbee]

79. POS that he is...

He has a long fall ahead of him if he wants to be another Limpballs. A nice prescription drug addition would be my suggestion for a first step.

[provis99]

74. you forgot to mention McCain's medals were undeserved

The military was flinging them out to prisoners of war for things they hadn't done. You need two witnesses to one overt act of heroism. Where are the witness, and what were the heroic acts of flying McCain did while he was a prisoner of war? Daddy Admiral pulled some strings; thats the answer.

[ihavenobias]

82. Thanks for posting that n/t

[theFrankFactor]

56. THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE!

To see Cenk in this setting just proves what we all know- we are sorely misrepresented in the media. Cenk was excellent!

I just can't get over the widespread asininity in the media about this issue. I want to believe it is mostly a fabrication by the media and that the populace is smarter than this.

Both the host and the right wing toddler were so embarrassingly moronic. FUCK YEAH CENK!

P.S. I may NEVER wear a tie in my segments again.

[theFrankFactor]

58. Clark's Military Record Highlights

"In March of 1999 as Slobodan Milosevic unleashed his army and police on the people of Kosovo, Gen. Wesley Clark, NATO's supreme commander, was given the first military mission of its kind, directing the forces of a 19 nation alliance to end a brutal campaign of ethnic cleansing. The stakes were monumental.


"Almost a million people had been driven from their homes solely because of their ethnic and religious background. Success would save lives, strengthen NATO, advance the cause of freedom, democracy and unity in Europe. Failure would leave much of the continent awash in a sea of refugees and end the 20th century on a note of helpless indignation in the face of evil.


"Wes Clark well understood the perils of the Balkans for he had already played a vital role in ending the war in Bosnia and beginning the long process of building a stable, multi-ethnic democracy in that country. He summoned every ounce of his experience and expertise as a strategist, soldier and a statesman to wage our campaign in Kosovo. He prevailed miraculously without the loss of a single combat casualty.


"At the apex of a long and distinguished military career that goes back to his outstanding performance as a cadet at West Point over 30 years ago, he was assigned a challenge many experts thought was mission impossible. Instead, thanks to Gen. Clark, we now can declare it mission accomplished."


-President Bill Clinton, August 9, 2000


"As the friendly force maneuvered through the treacherous region, it was suddenly subjected to an intense small arms fire from a well-concealed insurgent element. Although painfully wounded in the initial volley, Captain Clark immediately directed his men on a counter-assault of the enemy positions. With complete disregard for his personal safety, Captain Clark remained with his unit until the reactionary force arrived and the situation was well-in-hand. His courageous initiative and exemplary professionalism significantly contributed to the successful outcome of the engagement. Captain Clark's unquestionable valor in close combat against a hostile force is in keeping with the finest traditions of the military service and reflects great credit upon himself, the 1st Infantry Division, and the United States Army."


-From the Award of the Silver Star, as presented to Capt. Clark after he was wounded in battle in Vietnam, February 26, 1970

"Major Clark is one of the most outstanding officers of his grade in the U.S. Army...an officer of impeccable character with a rare blend of personal qualities and professional attributes which uniquely qualify him as a soldier-scholar. While he has the intellectual grasp of world affairs attained only by the top scholars in the field, he projects soldierly qualities of strength, character, leadership, and above all an unyielding sense of personal responsibility. It is this sense of responsibility which clearly sets him apart from his contemporaries. has the intellectual, moral and physical stamina, coupled with an unrelenting quest for excellence, which insures the completion of every task to near perfection. Major Clark's earnestness, sincerity of purpose and absolute dedication convey a moral force in his work which gives him a significant voice in this headquarters..."


-General Alexander M. Haig, Jr., July 19, 1978

"Wes Clark has the character and depth to be another Marshall or Eisenhower in time of war."


-Brigadier General William W. Crouch, March 16, 1988

"Professional and moral attributes are impeccable. Strong in all areas. Best leader-thinker in the Army....a great leader who takes care of soldiers and families.... He has it all and has done it better than anyone else."


-General Edwin Burba, Jr., March 20, 1992

"Clark exhibits the best balance of professional ethics of any officer I know. Particularly noteworthy is his demonstrated selfless dedication to his men, his unit, and the Army. He exhibits absolute integrity of word, deed... he establishes and observes scrupulous ethical and moral standards."


-Colonel Lester E. Bennett, June 2, 1980

"Major Clark is the most able White House Fellow I have known during my seven years in Washington...He brought to his work a brilliant mind and rare common sense. He has initiative, style, imagination, moral courage, and integrity-each in extraordinary degree...He has a rare sensitivity to others and a remarkable ability to motivate and lead them....He is totally dedicated to public service as a military officer."


-James T. Lynn, Director, Office of Management and Budget, July 8, 1976


"He is unquestionably one in a million. A professional whose perceptions are correct, whose plans are thorough and complete, whose executions are artistic, and whose success is inevitable....I have never been more impressed with an officer's talent and dedication. He should rank with men like Douglas MacArthur, Maxwell Taylor, Creighton Abrams..."


-Colonel Charles G. Prather IV, June 23, 1977

"Major Clark is the most outstanding Major I have ever seen. Brilliant, innovative, hardworking, and extremely enthusiastic, professional in every respect - I can not praise him too highly....The fact that General Haig selected him for his personal staff is indicative of his caliber. Further, his gracious wife is a distinct asset to him and to the Army."


-Brigadier General Clyde W. Spence Jr., March 7, 1978

[theFrankFactor]

59. General Wesley Clark: U.S. Military Individual and Unit Decorations

U.S. Military Individual and Unit Decorations

General Wesley Clark: U.S. Military Individual and Unit Decorations

General Wesley K. Clark (U.S.A., Retired), former Supreme Allied Commander of Europe, retired as one of the nation's most highly decorated military officers since General Dwight D. Eisenhower.

His leadership experiences have taken him from Vietnam to Latin America and ultimately to the position of NATO's Supreme Allied Commander, where he led a unified force to victory in NATO's first major combat action. Clark commanded all NATO forces to success in the important Kosovo conflict, saving 1.5 million Albanians from ethnic cleansing without a single Allied casualty.

Among his many military decorations, Clark is a four-star general who has been awarded the Silver Star, five Defense Distinguished Service Medals, four Legion of Merit Awards, two Army Distinguished Service Medals, two Bronze Star Medals and the Purple Heart.

In addition to numerous civilian honors, General Clark has received more than 20 major international awards including honorary Knighthoods from the British and Dutch governments and was made a Commander of the French Legion of Honor.

Scroll through the pages below or click one of the country names below to view details. Click here for a printable list.

Click for INTERNATIONAL AWARDS AND HONORS or CIVILIAN AWARDS AND HONORS.

Click SEE ALL U.S. MILITARY INDIVIDUAL AND UNIT DECORATIONS at the bottom of each entry to return to this screen.
Joint Meritorious Unit Commendation Ribbon Joint Meritorious Unit Commendation Ribbon
Defense Distinguished Service Medal (with 4 Oak Leaf Clusters) Defense Distinguished Service Medal (with 4 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Distinguished Service Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster) Distinguished Service Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
Silver Star Medal Silver Star Medal
Legion of Merit (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters) Legion of Merit (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Bronze Star Bronze Star
Purple Heart The Purple Heart
Meritorious Service Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster) Meritorious Service Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
Army Commendation Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster) Army Commendation Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
Kosovo Campaign Medal Kosovo Campaign Medal
Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge

National Defense Service Medal (with Service Star) National Defense Service Medal (with Service Star)
Army Staff Identification Badge Army Staff Identification Badge
Viet Nam Service Medal (with 3 Service Stars) Viet Nam Service Medal (with 3 Service Stars)
Combat Infantry Badge Combat Infantry Badge
Parachutist Badge Parachutist Badge
(Airborne)
Ranger Tab Ranger Tab
The Army Service Ribbon The Army Service

[kmac3]

60. K & R

:kick:

Typically the Republican will read into it whatever they want . . . just to make noise and spin . . . their total style.

As for Obama (getting way too centered) I don't think he needed to apologize because Gen. Clark said nothing false or degrading about McCain's military record . . .

[90-percent]

67. Clark is

Clark is same mold as Eisenhower, which is probably good as far as the military industrial Congressional facist media complex goes!

-90% Jimmy

[garthranzz]

68. REPEAT AFTER ME: EXPERIENCE WITHOUT JUDGMENT IS NO VIRTUE!

Cenk just gave us the cliche of the campaign: judgment vs. experience.

[navarth]

70. Don't forget their "Monday Morning Quarterback" meme. We'll be hearing more of that.

That was useful as a preview of Pig talking points to come. That monday morning quarterback thing will be repeated.

[navarth]

71. Oh, and by the way: YEAH CENK! YOU GO BOY!!

[NewJeffCT]

69. Didn't McCain himself say his POW/war experience did not quality him?

to be president?

[1Hippiechick]

72. Words. His "who is John McCain" video begins with a b/w shot of him as a POW....

[rndmprsn]

75. You were wrong...and we were right! K&R

[zeos3]

76. Good job Cenk

It's got to be tough being on one of those shows but Cenk did an admirable job. You could see him cringe every time the RW idiot said something stupid but the moderator didn't give him a chance to reply.

Cenk did well with the little time he was allowed to talk.

[bjobotts]

77. Ever hear wny of them ever defend Obama-ever. But look at the 100yrs war comment

[Frisbee]

78. OK, two questions on this...

1: Ben Ferguson says that Gen. Clark said he (McCain) is "unfit and untried". Where is he say unfit? Do I need to call Charter and tell them my Internet connection is skipping, because I never heard him say unfit (though I certainly would agree, had he). He simply made the case that being shot down and a POW does not by itself qualify you to be Commander in Chief (though it probably DOES make you more qualified than W was/is).

2: Who the fuck is Ben Ferguson? And where do they come up with these RW idiots? (OK, for you nit-pickers, I guess that was three questions. But seriously, I had never seen of heard of this knucklehead before today, and hopefully that was the only time, though they seem to have a never ending supply of them.

[Quantess]

80. Fuck CNN "Headline News".

They have 2 hours of Glenn Beck every night at prime time. And this talking head is always spouting his opinions on every single story he covers, no matter what the subject is. Like I need to hear his opinions. CNN Headline News are Faux-wannabees, and they are no longer the "most respected name in news". Not since they hired that gasbag Glenn Beck.

[DFW]

81. Nutshell analysis:

If we let the radical right distort what Wes Clark said, we lose the argument.
If we force them to confront what Wes Clark really DID say, we win.

It's that simple.

[immoderate]

83. "You were wrong. We were right."

That is a strong statement.

--IMM

[Jade Fox]

84. McCain's defense of himself was bizarre......

He looked barely conscious.

[onetwo]

85. SO, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT...

...in that conservative's bizarro world, actual diplomacy and strategic planning on a high level in an "air conditioned room" ISN'T relevant experience for the Presidency? And spending 5 years in a Vietnamese hellhole IS? Riiiiiiiiiight. Which one of those sounds more like the day-to-day grind of a US President?