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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:07 PM Original message |
OMG No DNA Match (lacross) |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Link here: |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Direct link |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. but no DNA checked on one of the 47, right? |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Yes, a black team member, but the woman said her rapers were white |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I just read that, and was about amend my post. |
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Scout1071 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
75. Didn't they say that one of the (alleged) attackers wasn't on the team? |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. Oh this makes me so angry. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Well now we know. They should charge her ass. |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. No, we still really don't know |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I read @ the link. The DNA is from the state crime lab and the results |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Yes, I read the story below just now |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
197. I just realised that I need to make sure to withhold judgement on |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
98. This doesn't prove she wasn';t raped, nor that some of the players did it |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
97. Why charge her??? This doesn't prove she wasn't raped |
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jukes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #97 |
134. still w/ you lost |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #134 |
139. Thanks, Jukes -- I like a law enforcement POV |
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Savannah Progressive (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #134 |
278. Certainly True |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #278 |
286. Many people on this and the other thread are saying rape didn't happen |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #286 |
292. Far too many people get offended |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #292 |
296. You're a good man, Thomcat... I mean that |
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Savannah Progressive (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #286 |
294. Rape is the one criminal offense where the tables are turned |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #294 |
298. I understand your POV, Savannah |
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jukes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 06:02 AM Response to Reply #278 |
306. although |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Durham Herald-Sun link: |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. That's what the defense is saying |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Great minds, RN. I had to be writing mine as you were posting yours. nt |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Yep. Wake me up when they drop the investigation. |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. As always the innocent until proven guilty didn't matter... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. And the source for this information is.. get ready for it.. hope you're |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. No DNA doesn't disprove penetration per se, does it? |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. No, it doesn't and DA says he may prosecute anyway |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. No, it doesn't, but it sure as hell |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. "DNA" from 2 accused was found in bathroom where she claimed rape |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Would also depend on where in the bathroom |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. 3 men using fake names are "accused" dna to sort them out, I think. |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. The real question - Was there ANY DNA on the victim's body |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
182. According to this part of the longer article, "None." |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
103. It was a towel and a bath mat... and Lex seemed to get that it was semen |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. Not to be indelicate, but... |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #110 |
116. after a party with strippers no less |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #116 |
137. I personally think the Defense attorney would have said that |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #137 |
143. That certainly would be strong evidence for the prosecution |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #137 |
235. The longer quote... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #110 |
129. I understand that, I'm just saying semen was found at the crime scene |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:05 PM Response to Reply #129 |
201. and you base that on??? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #103 |
246. No. What Lex Said in LBN was... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:13 AM Response to Reply #246 |
259. Why are you being so personally sarcastic? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:51 AM Response to Reply #259 |
260. Sarcastic? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Note that the defense attorney is choosing hios words VERY carefully. |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. How would DNA in a bathroom be relevant other than on her body? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
65. Let me make this perfectly clear--I'm parsing the |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #65 |
89. then learn the relevant vocabulary |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #89 |
118. "Complaining woman" is not a term generally used in legal matters. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #118 |
152. Precisely--the accepted legal term (I've done legal writing and research, |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:22 PM Response to Reply #152 |
166. Congratulations, so have I |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. I stand corrected. But I still maintain it was a bizarre use |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #169 |
179. It WAS carefully chosen... |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #179 |
186. It's easy. The common terms are complainant, |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #186 |
206. Already posted below... |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #206 |
222. Rudeness makes your words less convincing. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #222 |
240. Rudeness? |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #240 |
247. What you get for letting people know what a "complainant" is! |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:16 AM Response to Reply #179 |
266. jberryhill, are you working on this case? just wondering after looking |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:44 AM Response to Reply #266 |
270. No |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #166 |
175. And, as I expected, both your examples refer to rape cases. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #175 |
184. Are you serious? |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #184 |
194. I'd say exactly the same in this case. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:09 PM Original message |
Gee, I hope you don't start looking at medical case histories |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #175 |
189. I agree, and the same is true when the tables are turned. |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #189 |
192. The absolute WORST I have seen is calling a 12 year old boy "the lover of" |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #189 |
203. I couldn't agree more. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:13 AM Response to Reply #166 |
265. Deleted message |
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271. Deleted message |
lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #265 |
283. You can laugh at the fact that precise language is expected |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #265 |
285. Deleted message |
jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #265 |
291. Irrelevant personal attack. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:15 PM Response to Reply #118 |
155. I thought that when I read it -- they were being "cute" |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. It's worse than that--read my post just above yours. nt |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:30 PM Response to Reply #156 |
172. Yup n/t |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:12 AM Response to Reply #89 |
264. jberryhill, are you an attorney? If not, watch them closely ... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #264 |
269. Yes, I am; and so is the DA who is running for re-election. |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #269 |
297. This DA is in way over his head, and he's about to get the same .. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #297 |
299. The job has awesome power, and responsibility |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #299 |
300. I think that DA was a real loser. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:35 PM Response to Reply #300 |
301. Sorry |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #301 |
302. well, that will happen here |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
69. Dunno. It might be relevant to her claim that she was "sodomized"... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. In that case, if there was DNA from the dancer present as well. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Ahhh...I forgot the saliva! |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #69 |
187. As horrible as it is to think of... |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
67. And she would not necessarily know if they were using condoms. |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. There are a lot of things we don't know |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. They would have to have recovered evidence |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Yes, it would have to be SOMEONE's DNA, wouldn't it? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #82 |
119. Modern techniques can sequence enough to determine gender |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
108. And their DNA was found there |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:47 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. Yes, if you walk barefoot on a bath mat... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #114 |
131. You're hung up on the skin cell thing |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #131 |
151. Yeah, you'd think he would know more about it, being so obsessed! |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #151 |
157. Oooh... I just felt a billion skin cells rejuvenate as I wrote this |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #157 |
176. I gather that the two of you don't know much about DNA testing |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:05 PM Response to Reply #176 |
199. You "gather" incorrectly, then. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:24 PM Response to Reply #199 |
215. "different kinds of EVIDENCE from which DNA may be recovered" |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:17 AM Response to Reply #215 |
254. Well, if I got nailed on everything I ever remembered "dimly".... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #199 |
275. You are as misinformed as you are sarcastic |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Link to the video of the Defense Attorneys' Press Conference |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
52. Splitting hairs? |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. But no young woman has claimed to have been raped in your |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. I don't understand that at all |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. You're correct. Depends on what kind of DNA we are talking about. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #81 |
117. How many "kinds" of DNA do your cells have? |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #117 |
123. No, you misunderstand. DNA can be found in semen or hair or skin cells. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:07 PM Response to Reply #123 |
148. All of which you would expect to find... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #148 |
173. It's not different kinds of DNA, it's different kinds of evidence. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #117 |
125. I'd presume that refers to the carrier. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #125 |
130. Thanks. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #130 |
174. No, you were making sense |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. Fascinating |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Obviously there was SOME kind of DNA collected |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. That would be mitochondrial dna (fast testing too I believe) from root ... |
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YouthInAsia (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. If this is true, will the coah be reinstated? Will the players |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Things That Won't Happen |
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YouthInAsia (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
68. sadly, I agree with you. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
112. Aren't you jumping the gun? No one has been proven guilty or innocent yet |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #112 |
133. What exactly is the legal process for proving someone innocent? n/t |
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YouthInAsia (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #112 |
135. notice that I started out by saying 'IF THIS IS TRUE" |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. Whow, slow down everybody |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Good point. While many DUers are falling all over themselves |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. Excuse me? You're spinning this for the prosecution? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
64. I'm referring here specifically to the post above. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
140. I've read all the arguments for and against both sides. |
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YouthInAsia (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
71. Well said. I refrained from joinging those "discussions" cuz |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
87. You haven't read any "opposing" (btw, I'm NOT on either side) |
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YouthInAsia (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
132. what are you talking about? I didnt post on either side |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. I am following that case - and it doesn't pass the smell test thus far. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Edit--my bad.The blonde needs to read more carefully... nt |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
92. But where was the outrage regarding the NY case? |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
22. We'll see what the prosecutor does. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
53. You can't spin DNA results. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. "Truthiness." The defense's statement has been widely |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #59 |
72. From a criminology perspective, they're right to say that. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #72 |
95. But again, we so far only have the DEFENSE's statement. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. How about a national DNA database for prosecuting rape crimes? |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Is a DNA sample taken at birth and on entering school? |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I am just saying if we allow finger printing then why not DNA |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Because fingerprinting isn't allowed now |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Most US hospitals do not fingerprint babies, though |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Precisely. |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. Scary Stuff |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
63. Uh, because that would be HIGHLY ILLEGAL? |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
35. How sure can we be the DNA samples were actually taken |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. because Barney Fife is a fictional character |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. And how do you know that similar looking replacements |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. you have to bring your id |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Well, of course. But ID can be lent, and who would know? |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
78. Good call... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:21 PM Response to Reply #78 |
90. It's really not possible. |
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countingbluecars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
56. One can't help being a skeptic |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
36. I've always heard that it takes a long time to get DNA results back |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. because most of the time is growing the sample not reading the sample |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
44. it's obvious the prosecutor got the results, same time as defendants |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Absolutely. No woman makes an assault charge without |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. I wouldn't go so far as to sanctify all members of our sex |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
84. Not really. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. Sit down--I'm about to agree with you. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
105. I hope you have a source to back up that number... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:47 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. It is about 2% -- and rape is a very underreported crime |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
127. that 2 percent number was one the FBI pulled out of their ass |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #105 |
146. Not all false reports are at the same rate. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
58. In her statement she said they threatened her with a broomstick initially |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Except... |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. I think it's only in DP trials |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Not true |
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enid602 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
55. players |
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phrenzy (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
80. Ugh... I know you're kidding but... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
77. Defense atty is amazing |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Sorry, the defense attorneys are doing their job |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #85 |
102. You need to sit down too--I agree. |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:41 PM Response to Reply #102 |
109. LOL! |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. How is it BS? |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. Yeah, that mean old defense attorney... |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. He is NOTHING compared to the bastard in the Heidle(sp) case |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #77 |
101. Yes. His job is to help the D.A. convict his client |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
288. Its not his job |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
93. The tests may have been tampered with |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #93 |
104. Think about what you're saying for a moment. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #104 |
121. No... but Duke has a history of covering up rapes |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #121 |
180. I went to high school with a guy that went to Duke and raped... |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #121 |
183. oh they have a 'history' |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #93 |
128. Have you ever been to Durham? |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
94. Hate to say I told ya so |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:28 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. So case is closed for you? Well, its not closed for me |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #96 |
191. Yea, like you awaited the DNA evidence. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #94 |
111. No "supposedly" about it, they ARE priveledged. |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #111 |
190. Ya know, racists are usually the first to call others racist |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #190 |
209. So when did I "convict" anyone? I don't seem to recall that happening. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #94 |
136. I'd SO hate to see you eat your words, really I would... |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #136 |
188. Eat yer words? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #188 |
213. I have "ilk?!" |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #213 |
244. I think it's those big reindeer things. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:24 AM Response to Reply #244 |
268. Good one! |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
100. From a transcript with DA |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #100 |
115. He's omitting something. |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #100 |
221. Also from the DA |
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ContraBass Black (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
106. I'll wait for something from the police or the judge |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #106 |
124. Neither the police nor the judge have anything to do with it |
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ContraBass Black (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. They don't have enough to take it to trial? |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:10 PM Response to Reply #126 |
149. First a grand jury would have to bring charges |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
107. Thinking about this, if it's unfounded... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #107 |
120. "What was the DA thinking ..?" |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #107 |
122. "Unfounded" |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #122 |
138. It definitely WOULD mean something if |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. Well.. |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. Not only that - BUT WHO WOULD THEY BRING TO TRIAL? |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #122 |
141. The absense of DNA... when her wallet and fingernails were found... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #141 |
159. One would then have to question why they took samples from the players. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #122 |
163. Thank you -- exactly what I keep posting |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:37 PM Response to Reply #122 |
227. But |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #107 |
145. She was hosptialized with injuries among them |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #145 |
147. Ok, who ya gonna arrest? All of them? play hot potato? |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. That's a different question than saying her charges are "unfounded" |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:23 PM Response to Reply #150 |
167. Agreed, I think I went off tangent - there are two issues that are |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:35 PM Response to Reply #167 |
178. There is a huge difference between not being able to prove a charge, |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #178 |
185. But both are in play with what we know at the moment |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:29 PM Response to Reply #185 |
218. I would have to have a lot more information than that |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #218 |
239. I too feel the same, and have created a thread on it in the past |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:58 AM Response to Reply #239 |
263. You keep on saying there are no suspects -- there are |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:16 PM Response to Reply #167 |
253. Her father claimed she did identify the three men. |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #145 |
153. Didn't she leave the party and report it some time later? |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #153 |
158. I think it was pretty soon aftewards--within 2 hours. |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #153 |
170. Timeline article |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:14 PM Response to Reply #145 |
154. reporting or having injuries doesn't mean she's telling the truth |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:17 PM Response to Reply #154 |
160. With no DNA, here's what the DA would have to contend with |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #160 |
164. She isn't a prostitute! WTF are you talking about??? |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:54 PM Response to Reply #164 |
193. I am not accusing her, just saying what will happen |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #164 |
202. And it has come out that she supposedly did one one one private |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #160 |
171. we don't have the benefit of the exact information she gave police |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:05 PM Response to Reply #160 |
200. Not after. Before. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #154 |
161. I wonder if her hospital reports and pictures will be released. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #154 |
168. Right now, there isn't any solid context for assumptions. |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #168 |
195. then we agree |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #154 |
208. Defense already claims they have pictures of her arriving |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #154 |
304. So even though the doctors say there is evidence that |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #145 |
228. How's she running |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
162. Excuse me |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:22 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. Yep--the defense is trying this in the media. As repulsive a strategy |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #165 |
177. And a responsible DA will not try the case in public |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #177 |
230. Except that they already have** |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #177 |
232. Why would he? |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #165 |
181. The whole team has been accused of rape. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #181 |
287. They often don't have access to far more resources |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #165 |
198. Then the defense sucks |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #198 |
207. Good points! This was a case |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #207 |
211. Well, there's obviously a need for an investigation and trial |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #211 |
216. Stonewalled? |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #216 |
225. God forbid a notorious case |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #225 |
245. No worries |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #216 |
226. God forbid a notorious case |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #162 |
242. Everyone got the reports |
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patcox2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
196. There were suggestions early on that they wore condoms. |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #196 |
204. They found her fingernails |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #204 |
205. Not in light of her injuries |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #205 |
210. Do you know for a fact she has strangulation marks? |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #210 |
212. I'm going by the DA's statements |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #212 |
214. I havent heard anything about strangulation marks |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:29 PM Response to Reply #212 |
219. I do not recall DA stating anything about strangulation marks |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #210 |
217. Remember the original quotes leaked by the police in that one? |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #217 |
220. Their season was cancelled |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #220 |
223. I don't know if we are at the stage where we can say she |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #223 |
224. Was it paper towels? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #224 |
231. Either way |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #223 |
229. Absolutely |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #229 |
234. Is that a joke? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #234 |
237. It might not be solid evidence, but it's better than nothing. |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:16 AM Response to Reply #237 |
257. For the 3000th time; DNA does not = Semen** |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:56 AM Response to Reply #257 |
262. No, it does not. But do you know what that DNA is? |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #262 |
279. I read it differently |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #223 |
238. It would be highly unusual not to find DNA from those two guys... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:13 PM Response to Reply #238 |
252. Oh jesus christ. Even defense admits she was in there for 27 minutes. |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:02 AM Response to Reply #252 |
255. Check again... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:54 AM Response to Reply #255 |
261. Well, not to be completely idiotic. But don't you think finding |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #261 |
280. Not to be even more idiotic but where |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
233. As much as some would like to think - this does not exonerate anyone. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #233 |
236. Like fingerprints, DNA is one kind of evidence. |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #236 |
241. True |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
243. just clicked in.....let's be honest here for a second.... |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
248. *****Update****** / DA Plans to Prosecute, Despite No DNA Matches |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #248 |
249. How can he do that without his three suspects? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:11 PM Response to Reply #249 |
250. At least according to the women's father, she did identify |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #250 |
284. No identification of anyone yet |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #250 |
289. If she identified the three, why did they need 46 samples? |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-10-06 11:12 PM Response to Reply #249 |
251. The victim ID'ed them definitely as the 3 who assaulted her. |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:14 AM Response to Reply #251 |
256. ID'ed suspects... This is news |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 02:58 AM Response to Reply #256 |
258. I'm calling the fight. Prosecution goes down to the TKO. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 10:05 AM Response to Reply #256 |
277. Of course, each piece of evidence is sought to be explained separately |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #251 |
290. I don't think she knows which three specifically |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
267. Seems pretty soon to process all 47 DNA samples. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:59 AM Response to Reply #267 |
273. The test itself doesn't take weeks. If it takes weeks is because |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:10 AM Response to Reply #273 |
281. The DA requested that the tests be expedited** |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
272. This story is going to end well |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
274. I am really sick of this story... |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #274 |
293. I'm sure the victim is sick of it too. |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 04:12 PM Response to Reply #293 |
295. Hopefully, the victims will be able to get their reputations back |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #295 |
303. I notice that you show no compasion for the woman who was raped. |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
276. "News doesn't end investigation or heal wounds" |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
282. Cross posted |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
305. Rape kit and time lines |
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BrownOak (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #305 |
307. ESPN Reports |
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