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meganmonkey
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:32 AM Original message |
#2 -Live coverage of Senate Judiciary Hearing on Domestic Surveillance >>> |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
1. Koh on the contradiction between Specter passing legislation |
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rodeodance
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. did you let BushCo in on this secret? |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. YOU CAN WATCH IT WEBCAST HERE |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. KOH points out that the law was EXCLUSIVE -would Article 2 trump the law? |
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meganmonkey
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Can you hit alert on thread one |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. Gormley-when matters are done in secret, there is no plaintiff |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. Woolsey-FISA not constitutional when applied to electronic battlefield |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
7. Biden- domestic to domestic- what's the distinction (to root |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Woolsey-comparing 9/11 to a battlefield as an apologist for spying |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
10. Woolsey and Fein fight- Woolsey says Fein misrepresenting Hayden's |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. KYL-AG didn't do the analysis-troubled by that.... |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
12. Heh! Looks like this will be a Woolsey vs Fein match. |
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rodeodance
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
13. Levin asking good questions about port issue |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. different hearing-this is the Bush Spying on American hearing |
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rodeodance
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Inhofe saying during last adm. we sold airplanes to UEA.--but then says |
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Pryderi
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. IT'S THE, 'BUT CLINTON....." defense. |
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meganmonkey
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. You're talking about a different hearing |
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kentuck
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Different hearing rodeodance... |
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rodeodance
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. oops, sorry. |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
16. Feingold up to ask questions |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Feingold-Legal theory used to justify purely domestic but also |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Youngstown case as limits on Presidential powers |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. JAYZUS- Feingold asking what limits to ASSASSINATION |
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rodeodance
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
21. Inhofe is patting himself on the back about the china deal that he helped |
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Pryderi
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
22. WHY ISN'T THIS HEARING ON CSPAN?????? |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Meantime- WEBCAST link here |
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meganmonkey
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. I guess they only cover it when a Bushco apologist who isn't even |
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deutsey
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
27. Interesting assassination example, there, huh? |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. That is just unbelievable-TWO of them saying President can assassinate |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Fein-YOU CANNOT SURVEIL OUTSIDE OF FISA-Exclusive |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Gormley-Unless we're prepared to say that the Pres can suspend the |
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ClayZ
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #29 |
46. "Flack Jackets" anyone? |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
32. Hatch bringing up the laptop computer example of Woolsey |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Hatch insulting the panel "No one but Woolsey has a full understanding |
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meganmonkey
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Thanks for staying on top of this!! |
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deutsey
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Hatch is such an asshole and responsible for so many vile things |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
34. Woolsey arguing "Moore's Law",.. the technology changes things |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Woolsey" Not the president's fault we're on the battlefield" |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:08 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Specter-AG testified that program triggered only when NSA career |
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TahitiNut
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
37. Orrin Unctious Hatch ... the Senate's Uriah Heep |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
63. I agree- the constitution does not say "Reasonable SUSPICION" |
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deutsey
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
38. It's not Bush's fault that we're on the battle field? |
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OmmmSweetOmmm
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
40. It seems I have been demonstrating a new mantra F*CK YOU WOOLSEY! |
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ClayZ
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
41. "It is hard".... |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
43. Specter-clearly troubled by the career professional making the judgements |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
44. Specter- "Gang of 8" -heh, seems he doesn't like that either |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Limit information to so-called "Gang of 8"? |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Fein-IF AG approached FISA court with info from NSA program |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Kyl-IF intell committees regularly briefed, certified IG report |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Kyl-existing program, briefed to intel pgm-IF there is domestic |
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TahitiNut
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. They're elevating a purely administrative/procedural convenience ... |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
51. OMIGOD-I see the direction the Repubs want to take this -OUT Of the courts |
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TahitiNut
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Not only that, but not even the entire committee. |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Essentially, having the info come to an "oversight committee" |
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TahitiNut
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. That's exactly the point. |
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maxrandb
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Tue Feb-28-06 12:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
81. Not a Proud Moment |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
52. Koh-In what way has the FISA court stood in the way NOW???? |
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ClayZ
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:25 AM Original message |
Use ther POWER of the Purse! |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
53. Schumer- Everyone is ignorant of details of NSA spying program |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. We haven't even gotten answers to our followup questions of AG |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
55. Fein-Administration has concealed EVERYTHING |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. KOH-Irresponsible to pass new legislation when you don't know |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
59. Kmiec-"Principled Dogfight between Exec and Congress" |
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TahitiNut
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
60. I really, really, really detest Kmiec |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #60 |
71. Same thing with Turner |
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TahitiNut
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Yep. They both confer a kind of Presidential (monarchical) authority ... |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
61. Koh-FISA intended to create a process in which evidence could be used |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
62. FEIN-earlier claims about NSA were without FISA |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
64. Hatch, you asshole, if it doesn't rise to the PROBABLE CAUSE |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
66. So there it is, too..... we either have a PROBABLE CAUSE standard |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
67. I have never felt so strongly that we ARE at a Constitutional crisis |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
68. Koh-public has a right to know what NSA programs have been |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
69. Fein-limits on government doens't mean anemic govt, it means STRONGER |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Fein-bringing up DeWine's proposal in 2002 that the Admin rejected |
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ClayZ
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
72. The department of redundancy department! |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
73. Leahy-not told if it produced any useful information, don't know who |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
74. Fein on Hatch's Reasonable Suspicion-we don't even know |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
75. Koh-if president thinks a law is unconstitutional, he can VETO it |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
76. Woolsey-You Can't Tell the Public what's going on because Al Qaida |
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ClayZ
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
77. Not about to approve a program we don't understand... yeah sure! |
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liveoaktx
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Bush is NOT going to tell unless they, like you said, TAKE AWAY THE MONEY |
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ClayZ
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Tue Feb-28-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Purse Power! |
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Tue Feb-28-06 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
82. Audio Archive Link |
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