Whittington Shot on Friday?

[kpete]

(Kpete: I heard him say Friday too. WTF???)

Whittington Shot on Friday?
by nutmeg
Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:51:43 PM PDT
Whittington was shot on Friday?

These are his words, not mine. They guy is a lawyer. Unless he's just crazy, there's no way in hell he's going to make a prepared statement like this without first vetting it and making sure it is accurate.

Good Afternoon.

All of you in the media have been very patient in waiting for me to make my appearance here. I hope you understand. I'm sorry I delayed you, but I know your role is to get the news out to the public. I compliment you on what you've done. I've read and seen many of your reports and I know your job isn't easy. I regret that I couldn't have been here earlier so you could see what a lucky person I am.

For many years my family has been friends with the Armstrongs down in Kenedy County. We have visited with them for over 25 years and have had some wonderful trips and visits - pleasant memories that we cherish forever. However, this past weekend encompassed all of us in a cloud of misfortune and sadness that is not easy to explain - especially to those who are not familiar with the great sport of quail hunting.

We all assume certain risks in whatever we do, whatever activities we pursue. And regardless of how experienced, careful and dedicated we are, accidents do and will happen - and that's what happened last
Friday.

I am very grateful and want to thank all the people that remembered me in their prayers and the kindness you have extend to my family that's been here this week.

My family and I are deeply sorry for all that vice president Cheney has had to go through this past week . We send our love and respect to them as they deal with situations that are much more serious than what we've had this week. And we hope that he will continue to come to Texas and seek the relaxation that he deserves.

So, I guess this means that it could have been as much as 36 hours before the "accident" was reported. Did no reporters notice this?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/17/175143/159

[spuddonna]

1. Well, Reuters thinks they "know what he meant"...

Here's the transription:"We all assume certain risks in whatever we do, whatever activities we pursue. And regardless of how experienced, careful and dedicated we are, accidents do and will happen - and that's what happened last Friday."

Here's what Reuters is running:"We all assume certain risks in whatever we do. Regardless of how experienced, careful and dedicated we are, accidents do and will happen. And that's what happened last Friday," Whittington said, meaning on Saturday. (my emphasis) http://today.reuters.com/business/newsarticle.aspx?type=tnBusinessNews&storyID=nN17353827

The AP drops the entire last section "...and that's what happened last Friday."
UPI doesn't put any of it in...

The reporters didn't get a chance to ask questions at the press statement, so maybe someone will follow this up... I ain't holdin my breath!

[SoCalDem]

2. Remember what the FEMA guy said after the WTC attack?

On Sept 11, when he was interviewed, he said "When we arrived YESTERDAY"..and then the reference was scrubbed from every mention of that interview..

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. Nope. It Was Saturday. Just A Simple Error. More Importantly Though,

was cheney drinking?

[spuddonna]

6. That is an excellent question... Hmm was Cheney drinking?

:) I think they started drinking on Friday and never stopped...

and I don't think either of them knows what day Dick shot him on because they were both so loaded!

[Jackpine Radical]

7. Cheney DRINKING?

You think Cheney might have been DRINKING? That maybe it was more than that BEER at lunch he admitted to? Gee, I hate to speculate on his DRINKING with so little evidence, but why did he wait 14--or was it 18-or was it 22--hours before talking to the sheriff's dept? I suppose some might imagine he was waiting to SOBER UP or something, but really we have no evidence he had been DRINKING, do we? Well, except for that COCKTAIL he had after the shooting, but that doesn't really mean he had been DRINKING while hunting, you know.

[spuddonna]

8. So, you are saying that when I say "Cheney was DRUNK OFF HIS ASS..."

... WHEN HE SHOT WHIT IN THE FACE" it could possibly be misleading?

Yes, I see your point... absolutely! Just because he was drinking BEFORE and AFTER doesn't mean that he was DRINKING DURING THE SHOOTING. It just looks really bad since it took 22 hrs to notify the press/police/WH. And who knows? It may have even been longer since Whittington said today he was shot Friday... I'm sure he just misspoke... even though he was reading from a paper statement... and is a lawyer...

:evilgrin:

[Jackpine Radical]

18. You got it. We can't really prove he was DRINKING so

we really shouldn't accuse him of being DRUNK when he blasted his friend in the face with that shotgun. That one teensy BEER AT LUNCH wouldn't have affected a HARD CORE DRINKER with TWO DRUNK DRIVING CONVICTIONS on his record after all.

[marions ghost]

20. Not true

a really hardcore alcohol-dependent drinker can be subject to blackouts or 'blankouts' after a relatively modest amount of alcohol. And then the drug interactions also would have to be considered.

[spuddonna]

24. Oh! So Cheney might have shot Whit because he BLACKED OUT...

... from mixing booze and his prescription meds!

Huh. So, we know FOR SURE he was on medication... but we aren't sure HOW MANY BEERS HE HAD POUNDED, I guess is what we've come to...

lol This is insane...

[marions ghost]

29. who knows?

all I'm saying is that if you are a hardcore drinker on medication, there can be "space-outs" (or even black-outs)--after a relatively small amount of alcohol. I'm just speaking theoretically here, not really suggesting this is what happened with Cheney. Just trying to tackle one of the myths of alcoholism, since so many argue that he "didn't drink enough" to be impaired. "Impaired" is very individual-specific.

All this is pure speculation. None of us is informed enough about his physical condition and degree of alcohol dependency to draw any real conclusions. But there are reasons to be suspicious, especially as it has been admitted that drinking was going on.

[spuddonna]

32. :) I totally agree...

It's all speculation! I'm sorry, I was being sarcastic in my posts, I should've marked it...

I believe that Whittington made a mistake and probably meant Saturday, but really until there is clarification by the press, or police, why should I not wildly speculate?

That's exactly why Cheney should have stepped forward and talked to the police and the press asap...

[marions ghost]

36. hey no prob

I sometimes take things too literally.

I think we agree that because we (the people) have been treated so condescendingly --like we "don't need to know" any real facts, it's completely fair and reasonable to speculate. If not given to speculation, we would be brain-dead koolaid drinkers.

Yes Cheney should have faced the music. He would have earned far more respect. But he took the coward's way out. And I think it exposes him for what he is.

Any sharp lawyer would say that "slips" such as Whittington's must be verified. If I hear Harry personally say..."I made a big mistake, I meant Saturday" -- well then I'd believe it. What blows my mind is the immediate media response--the immediate and obvious damage control. It is not kosher to edit or add to a line such as this, from a formal statement-- and yet that's what they did. Pravda School of Jounalism. Only fuels MORE speculation by doing that.

[spuddonna]

39. Exactly...

"If I hear Harry personally say..."I made a big mistake, I meant Saturday" -- well then I'd believe it. What blows my mind is the immediate media response--the immediate and obvious damage control. It is not kosher to edit or add to a line such as this, from a formal statement-- and yet that's what they did. Pravda School of Jounalism. Only fuels MORE speculation by doing that."

That's exactly it. All it will take is for one reporter to go to Whittington and ask him. A reporter could do it on the phone for crying out loud. (Ok, I'd prefer a David Gregory instead of a Brit Hume to ask the question, but still...) ;)

[txindy]

12. An error reading from the written statement in his hand?

The statement a hand from off-camera reached in and snatched away right after he said "Friday?"

Okay.

[marions ghost]

sure "was Cheney drinking?" is important

but also just "WHEN WAS the guy shot?" matters quite a bit. But I see you have the definitive answer that it was Saturday because Cheneyco said so, or because you are psychic.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

15. No, Because Logically It Is Obvious.

But have away at it. Lord knows you have a fetish with replying to me with annoyance so I don't want to ruin your fun!!!

:hi:

[marions ghost]

19. logically

it is not obvious. Maybe you can supply some facts about how you KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that the shooting took place on Saturday. Just the facts (let's not bother with jibes).

There are reasonable doubts since we have so few objectively verified facts about what happened.

Facts === ?????

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

21. Ok, Here's A Fact.

Cheney wasn't even there till late Friday. They weren't hunting on Friday.

Ohhhhh, waittttt, that's righttt, This is HUGH!!!1111 He must not have been hunting at all, and really burst into the bedroom to find whittington all viagrad up in bed with cheney's mistress, then picked up his gun, loaded some birdshot and shot the fucker! Send this to Olbermann quick Marion!!!

:rofl:

[marions ghost]

30. how do you know

Cheney wasn't there til late evening and they weren't hunting on Friday? If you could find some reference to that fact, as in travel logs or something credible, then we could put an end to this speculation about it. But when we have nothing but dubious accounts and spin from everywhere...we are only left with speculation...from mild to wild. You can ridicule me all you like. But the multiple holes in this story are not only in Whittington.

[Carni]

25. I tend to agree/ I think now they are deliberately floating BS info

Just to emphasize *how confusing* this all is at such a trying time--in hopes that it makes all these other abnormalities seem more normal (not sure that makes sense)

The BIG question is why did Cheney avoid the cops for 14 hours and hold himself above the law--Was he drinking indeed!

That is the question!

[TomInTib]

4. And I was wondering why his bruising wasn't darker....

The extra 24 hours would explain a lot.

But I think I read that DeadEye did not arrive until Friday PM.

Who knows anymore?
Maybe we've all gone down the rabbit hole.

[SammyWinstonJack]

5. Friday Saturday, what's a day among friends who

SHOOT YOU IN THE FACE!

[daleo]

9. Whittington's song to Cheney

Oh, you can shoot me on Monday, a Monday, a Monday is a very good day.
Or you can shoot me on Tuesday, a Tuesday, a Tuesday, in fact I wish you would.

Or you can shoot me on a Wednesday, a Thursday, a Friday and Saturday is best.
But never, never on a Sunday, a Sunday, a Sunday, cause that's my day of rest.

[SammyWinstonJack]

22. !

:spray:

[Carni]

26. I thought it was "Cheney's got a gun"

LOL

Janies Got A Gun Lyrics - Aerosmith

Dumb, dumb, dumb, Dummy what have you done?
Dumb, dumb, dumb it's the sound of my gun.
Dumb, dumb, dumb, Dummy what have you done?
Dumb, dumb, dumb it's the sound

Cheney's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
His whole world's come undone
From lookin' straight at dim son
What did Scooter Libby do?
What did he put you through?
They said when Cheney was arrested they found him walking with a cane.

But man, he had it comin' Now that Cheny's got a gun he ain't never gonna be the same.


Feel free to jump in with more lyrics lol

[spuddonna]

27. LOL I've been waiting for someone to cover this song for days! n/t

[Carni]

28. I had a real problem when it gets to

"He jacked a little bitty baby the man has got to be insane"

Oh what the hell! Here's the rest of what I came up with but it isn't very good lol

Cheney's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
His dog day's just begun
Now everybody is on the run
Tell me now it's untrue.
What did Scooter Libby do?
He jacked a very angry Cheney
The man has got to be insane
They say the spell that he was under the lightning and the thunder knew that someone had to stop the Plame's

Run away, run away from the pain yeah, yeah yeah yeah
Run away run away from the pain yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Run away, run away, run, run away


Cheney's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
His dog day's just begun
Now everybody is on the run
What did your buddy do?
It's Cheney's last I.O.U.
he had to take him down easy and put a bullet in his brain
he said 'cause nobody believes me. The man was such a sleeze. He ain't never gonna be the same.


Run away, run away from the pain yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah
Run away run away from the pain yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Run away, run away, run, run away


Cheny's got a gun
cheney's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
Everybody is on the run


Cheney's got a gun
His dog day's just begun
Now everybody is on the run
Because Cheney's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
His dog day's just begun
Now everybody is on the run
Cheney's got a gun

[spuddonna]

31. Awesome!

:applause:
My favorite line: "They say the spell that he was under the lightning and the thunder knew that someone had to stop the Plame's"

How bout this:

Cheney's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
His buddy Whit is on the run
The quail were flyin' 'gainst the backdropped sun
What did Dick Cheney do?
What did he put Whit through?
He took his .28 and birdshot, the man has got to be insane! (ba ba ba ba!)
He knew that no one would believe Whit so he pulled the trigger - squeezed it - and Whit will never be the sa-a-a-ame!

Ok... it needs work... lol

[Carni]

34. That is WAYYYYY better!

Makes much more sense pertaining to "quailgate" lol

[spuddonna]

38. So we just combine them!

Here! I combined them!

Janies Got A Gun Lyrics - Aerosmith

Dumb, dumb, dumb, Dummy what have you done?
Dumb, dumb, dumb it's the sound of my gun.
Dumb, dumb, dumb, Dummy what have you done?
Dumb, dumb, dumb it's the sound

Cheney's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
His whole world's come undone
From lookin' straight at dim son
What did Scooter Libby do?
What did he put you through?

They said when Cheney was arrested they found him walking with a cane.
But man, he had it comin'
Now that Cheney's got a gun
he ain't never gonna be the same.

Cheney's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
His dog day's just begun
Now everybody is on the run
Tell me now it's untrue.
What did Scooter Libby do?

He jacked a very angry Cheney
The man has got to be insane!
They say the spell that he was under
the lightning and the thunder
knew that someone had to stop the Plame's!

Run away, run away from the pain
yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah
Run away run away from the pain
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Run away, run away, run, run away

Cheney's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
His buddy Whit is on the run
The quail were flyin' 'gainst the backdropped sun
What did Dick Cheney do?
What did he put Whit through?

He took his .28 and birdshot,
the man has got to be insane! (ba ba ba ba!)
He knew that no one would believe Whit
so he pulled the trigger - squeezed it and
Whit will never be the sa-a-a-ame!

Run away, run away from the pain
yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah
Run away run away from the pain
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Run away, run away, run, run away

Cheny's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
Everybody is on the run

Cheney's got a gun
His dog day's just begun
Now everybody is on the run
(Honey, Fitz wants to indict you)
Because Cheney's got a gun
(Shrub says it ain't right)
Cheney's got a gun
(Was it Jackie's money laund'rin')
His dog day's just begun
(That made you scream at night?)
Cheney's got a gun
His dog day's just begun
Now everybody is on the run
Cheney's got a gun

* I added the reply at the end (in para's), how's it sound? :)

[Carni]

40. MOST excellent!

Now we just need to get Steven Tyler to sing our new rendition and we are like rock Gods! lol

man I hope we get the royalties from these new lyrics! :)

[spuddonna]

41. Yeah! Can we be groupies?!

Somehow I don't think my husband and kids would appreciate that...

"Mommy's going to Cleveland! Got backstage passes! Later!" lol :headbang:

[Carni]

47. Mine probably wouldn't appreciate it either lol eom

[txindy]

13. **drying keyboard**

[SammyWinstonJack]

23. !

:evilgrin:

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. Huh. So this came true, then...

[spuddonna]

33. Not only that, but they gave Cheney a standing ovation in Wyoming...

So, I guess when the VP shoots someone in the face they deserve a standing ovation too?

My brain hurts after this week...

[GreenPartyVoter]

35. Up is down and black is white continues in **'s 'Murika

[marions ghost]

11. catch up here ::::::

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=454105&mesg_id=454105

[Junkdrawer]

14. The irony of the "Friday Mis-Speak" is that there is so much secrecy...

around Cheney, and the Secret Service and Kenedy Sheriff are so accommodating, that it is almost impossible to prove it didn't happen Friday.

"Sleep it off Harry, and if it's not better tomorrow we'll take you to the local hospital and have them look at it..."

It does, however, beg the question as to why Cheney would not have been ready to speak to the local law on Saturday night if it happened Friday.

[Cleita]

16. I did a WTF on that too. n/t

[spuddonna]

17. I think that will be Bush's encyclopedia entry...

George W. Bush (2000-?) - WTF?!

[UTUSN]

37. j*He* said FRIDAY - ain't HE the #1 effing EYEWITNESS???? n/t

[Nothing Without Hope]

42. Another thread on the Friday shooting (LINK) and those bruises do look

more healed than I would expect:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x454105
thread title (2-17-06 GD): Question: Why does Mr. Whittington say Friday?
On camera, Whittington says the shooting happened on FRIDAY, not SATURDAY as has been reported.
WASHINGTON POST VIDEO here – the “Friday” comment is just before 1 minute (there is an ad before the Whittington video starts):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2006/02/17/VI2006021701126.html or http://snipurl.com/Whittington_Friday
MSNBC WHITTINGTON TRANSCRIPT & VIDEO HERE: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11409731
SCREENSHOT of MSNBC TRANSCRIPT saying “Friday” here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=454105&mesg_id=456224
(I’ve also saved a full-screen shot but did not upload it because of its size.)
Reuters reports (http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-02-18T020053Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-237197-1.xml) the speech and gratuitously adds, after the “Friday” statement that he meant Saturday: “"We all assume certain risks in whatever we do. Regardless of how experienced, careful and dedicated we are, accidents do and will happen. And that's what happened last Friday," Whittington said, meaning on Saturday.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x455444
thread title (2-17-06 GD): More Whittington PIX --->>>
Comment/excerpt: Close-up photos show extensive swelling, wounds, and very yellow bruising. Was he actually, as he said in his statement, shot on FRIDAY?

Please check out the COMPILATION THREAD on the Cheney shooting. There's a just-posted, updated version in General Discussion, to facilitate discussion, here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x456727
thread title (2-17-06 GD): COMPILATION OF CHENEY SHOOTING THREADS - with comments/excerpts:
Comment/excerpt: Repost of updated thread started in this forum Feb 14. At time of posting, it is identical to the version in the Research Forum.

And also in the Research Forum, to facilitate clear presentation:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=358x3133
thread title (2-14-06 RESEARCH FORUM): Compilation of threads on 2/06 Cheney shooting incident, including videos

The VIDEO threads ae organized at the end of the opening post of each compilation thread.

[marions ghost]

43. thanx for the excellent compilation

:kick:

[file83]

44. It's called "conundrum" - when you detect it, it's a RED FLAG that someone

is lying to you.

This whole event is surrounded by "conundrum" - that is - conflicting facts - different stories - different timelines - different versions, etc....

The whole purpose of which is to muddy the factual waters - keeps us argueing with eachother instead of with them. They do this stuff on purpose and the technical term is "disinformation", the intentional spreading of a fabricated confetti of stories.

We have seen this administration do this ALL THE TIME. When ever there is a cover up, you don't just create ONE cover story - those are too easy to debunk. What you do is create multiple stories with ambiguous information and leak it from multiple sources. That way no one can even get to square 2 of unravelling the knot of truth because they are stuck at square 1 - sifting through conflicting data.

This creates enough time for the whirlwind of controversy to blow over and everyone grows tired of dealing with it and so all move on. And then the next controversy arises and the entire thing starts over again.

That's why we are seeing this "conundrum" of information about this story.

[Twist_U_Up]

45. Yea but was he drinking ?

I think he shot that man in the face because he was drunk.

[file83]

46. We'll never know - because they designed it that way. It's called

"Plausible Deniability"

They will deny alllll dayyyyyyy looooooong.