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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:07 AM Original message |
Gerald Ford and genocide in East Timor. Remember the victims. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. I was totally unfamiliar w this event until Amy Goodman (Democracy Now) |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. That was a small episode in a very brutal occupation that took hundreds of |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Yes, I had the same thing happen. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. So we can remember Ford correctly, you might want to rec this thread. |
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StopVoteFraud (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Sure |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
3. I like Jimmy Carter, but he did nothing to stop this |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Yep, you are sadly right there. |
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stansnark (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
24. what did you expect of carter? |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. At this point |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
7. Count Mr Carter in there... |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
8. I think many Presidents |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. That's absolutely true. President Ford did not have a corner on this. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. He not only did not stop it, the US sponsored it. We gave massive military aid to |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
11. Can't wait to dance on his grave? Would you post the same about Clinton & Rwanda? |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Well, Clinton at least admitted that |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. And clinton did not rush weapons to facilitate the massacre. |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. True dat |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. No one is dancing on graves. Clinton did not send weapons to Rwanda, did |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:19 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. No, you're not dancing on his grave; he hasn't been buried yet. |
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otherlander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:05 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I would say that about Clinton. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Clinton is more directly responsible for the death of thousands in Iraq |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Ford's 3 biggest problems |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Thank You. Important point you make, birds |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
19. Everybody from Ford to Bill Clinton helped perpetuate Indonesia's brutality on East Timor. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. I agree. Like Palestinians, the people of East Timor hardly rated at all. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
20. Tom, thanks for the reminder |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:48 AM Response to Original message |
22. "Death of a Nation - The Timor Conspiracy" (docu) |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
23. Save me from |
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stansnark (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:52 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. setting the record straight |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:03 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. What utter nonsense. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Ford provides the weaponry for the death of one-third of the population of East Timor. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. The real version is far |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. aw, |
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LTR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I agree with you |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. No US president. We have a very bloody history. All the more reason |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Many, many people have a perception of Ford as the uncoordinated |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Still, East Timor is an important issue |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
28. k&r |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
36. K&R! For keeping the memory straight! Death does not convert |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
38. k&r |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 05:05 AM Response to Original message |
41. K&R buddy n/t |
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