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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:30 AM Original message |
DID CIA KILL RFK? - Screenwriter Finds Evidence Implicating 3 CIA Officers (Guardian) |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. CIA used Cubans pissed at Bay of Pigs to Off Both Kennedys? Maybe. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Here is a link |
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madhoosier (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
45. Zapata, Houston and Barbara |
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NEOBuckeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
62. Poppy Bush did it |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 12:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
78. smoke is a prime symptom of fire |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 12:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
75. Ehrlichman's "Witness To Power" shows Nixon knew RFK was |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #75 |
92. See post #81 by LeahD for text of the Nixon quote in the book.....nt |
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stansnark (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
3. thane eugene cesar killed him |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. again, i must point you to Operation 40 |
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kimpossible (785 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Operation 40? |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Here's some information |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. It goes back further -- to the overthrow of Arbenz |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. Good Old Barry Seal |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
65. Kiddin? -- who didn't the CIA kill?? |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Welcome to DU -- How about a link or some additional info? (n/t) |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
4. I try to be as critical as possible of such "conspiracy stories". |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I think that is the closest to the truth as I have seen |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
95. Read Joan Mellen's book A Farewell To Justice |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. I bought that damn Mellon book on a DU recommendation, a while back! |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. What ? None of this was in the Warren Report |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Eugene Victor Debs was always a sacred name to me, |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. She mentions George Johannides/Joannides |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 11:27 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Thanks, I'll keep looking for that damn book! |
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DemonFighterLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Posner questioning? |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Yes. You're welcome and also check out post 74 and 90 |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. 2 words, Thom Hartman |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
43. yes, thom hartmann |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 08:31 AM Response to Reply #43 |
82. from what i have gathered: |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. LAPD's Special Unit Senator was headed by a CIA guy named Pena |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
104. One month later, Nov 1 Diem was assassinated |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
56. Thom Hartman killed RFK? |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #56 |
89. Maybe it was in self-defense |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
6. all I know is this: People who very publicly got in Nixon's way were murdered |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. People who got in Nixon's way? |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. The Hinkleys and the Bushs were more than... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 08:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
86. That's one creepy photo! The world would have been a lot better off without them. n/t |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
54. Don't forget George Wallace! |
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Ammonium (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
8. The lady in the poka dot dress |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Then why is Teddy Kennedy still a Senator? n/t |
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volstork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Ted is the outlier, |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. He makes a convenient nemesis too... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 08:59 AM Response to Reply #53 |
87. Oh, and well you should be. Robert Kennedy was a friend of Cesar Chavez! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. Ted Kennedy survived a fatal plane crash in 1964. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
79. No liberal Dems or whistleblowers should ever fly |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #79 |
94. "Ted Kennedy" is already on the no-fly list nt |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Neocons are gonna start to get that whole... |
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Ammonium (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
61. Come on. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
60. The lady in the polka dot dress was a mysterious figure in the RFK |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
9. It seems obvious to me now that all three antiwar leaders--JFK, MLK & RFK-- |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. A heartbreaking article on Bush vs. JFK on attitudes toward war... |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Knights of Malta, CFR etc. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Don't forget Cardinal Cody's role......nt |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. and Cardinal Egan |
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hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Ding Ding Ding !! |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Can't forget John Lennon. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. ITA, 100%. MONEY. PERIOD. Not democracy/terrorism/Communism/ |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
80. We should always remember that just because operatives |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
10. I don't know if the CIA did it but Sirhan Sirhan doesn't seem to be the only... |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:16 AM Response to Original message |
12. Operation 40 Contract Agents |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:06 AM Response to Original message |
14. They killed Paul Wellstone too. |
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Mend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. they killed JFK, Jr., too |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. Oh yeah they did! |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
68. Intell cover-up admitted in PBS Frontline documentary |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
71. That has been a thought of mine from time to time too. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 08:38 AM Response to Reply #71 |
84. The Assassination of JFK Jr. (docu) |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
15. K&R - I just watched RFK's last speech on YouTube (& the aftermath) |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
48. Thank you so much Cooley for sharing these important pieces of history |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
16. criminal elements within the CIA and various other govt agencies. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Nixon's Treason article...4 more years of war and sandbagging |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Kissinger could still be hanged for that episode |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
58. It all led directly to Watergate... |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
57. don't forget Malcolm X |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 08:50 AM Response to Reply #57 |
85. Correct. |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
17. Every road seems to go back to the Bushes and CIA :( nt |
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DemonFighterLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
20. Interesting Aside |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
26. interesting |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
49. They were so arrogant that they evidently believed - and, seemingly, |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
28. K & R |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
29. K & R |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
30. buzzflash has it's panties in a bunch over a reader saying this |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. Prof. Philip H. Melanson pioneered the research on RFK assassination. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
109. When RFK was assassinated, the LAPD got rid of the evidence PDQ. |
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Clinton Crusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
38. Two things always made this a conpsiracy |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
40. Who was head of the CIA then! |
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Clinton Crusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
41. I always found this interesting... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
44. I'm glad you posted this... but after all these years, I still can't deal with it. |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
50. Nov 20 would have been RFK's Birthday n/t |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
51. I hope this movie comes out on DVD. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. great thread. |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
59. Link to BBC2's Newsnight: You can watch tonight's episode now: |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Just finished watching it.... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Special Unit Senator headed by CIA/LAPD officer |
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LeahD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:25 AM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Here's the Nixon quote from the book.......... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 08:36 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. was Nixon referring to the speech or to the assassination? |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. An impending assassination. The quotes re 'Bay of Pigs thing' |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #81 |
90. Thank you LeahD. My memory re that quote and page number |
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LeahD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 03:21 AM Response to Reply #90 |
99. Witness to Power is on my bookshelf, and it wasn't difficult |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Thanks ! I couldn't dig up the book (it's in a box in basement) BTW |
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LeahD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-23-06 02:57 AM Response to Reply #103 |
110. I wish I was that diligent. |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
64. excellent thread |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
66. In other words, part of our own government killed RFK-JFL-MLK |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. "Their Will Be Done" article by Martin A. Lee |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. this is fuckstick sick .... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. M$M will not touch it with a 10 ft Pole |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 11:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
107. kick n/t |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
70. And all this time I thought it was a contract hit for Joe DiMaggio |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
76. They certainly waived the secret service car riders, one was |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
77. Cui bono? |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
98. Yep, just a bit too much co-inkydink to wash hands of it all. |
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AverageJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
88. Kicking |
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brettdale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-23-06 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
111. kick |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-23-06 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
112. CIA, Cuban gusamos, mafia, Hoffa's people or any combination thereof. |
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