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deathdog (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:23 PM Original message |
What does "a well-regulated militia" mean? |
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thirdpower (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here's the legal definitions.... |
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deathdog (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. These define "militia", but not much about "well-regulated" |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Congress is charged with funding and training the militia... |
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deathdog (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. So that imlies that members of this |
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thirdpower (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. So how would you then screen people out? |
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deathdog (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I'd ask 'em to join |
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thirdpower (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. They're already in one by law. :) |
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deathdog (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 04:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Again...what does "well-regulated" mean? |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I don't think it implies that at all |
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deathdog (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. The right to own guns is predicated on the existence of |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. No, the assumption is that everyone is part of the citizen-militia |
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deathdog (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. What is regulation? |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 04:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. what the hell...it means "well-regulated". there's no concordance to the |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 05:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. predicated on, but not dependent upon |
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thirdpower (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Prefatory language... Like "Whereas"... |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. Since the advent of the standing regular army, it doesn't really mean much |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. I think it means a lot. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. A militia is a citizen army |
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deathdog (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. That's what it sounds like to me |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 08:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
36. Where did you get this interpretation? |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. I got it from my drill sergeant |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. As a vet |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Oh, I understand |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
13. A co-ordinated group citizens that respects a heirarchal |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
19. In the context of the 2nd Amendment well regulated means... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Well, isn't "having adequate skills" a restriction? -nt |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I think it's the opposite. |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
22. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution |
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thirdpower (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. The "storage" arguement was a complete fabrication... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Congress does not "regulate" the militia. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. Since there's been all of one Supreme Court decision on the matter |
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VTMechEngr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. This is what it means: |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
29. Personally, I believe it's the National Guard |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Tell that to the NG's killed in Iraq |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 07:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. The Supreme Court has already ruled that the Guard is not the militia... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Got it...that would be _Perpich v. Department of Defense_, 1990... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. 369th birthday - Dec 13 2005 |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. See post #44 (n/t). |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 08:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. National Guard didn't exist until 1916......eom |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
32. Let Me Tell You About The 2nd Amendment - The Truth For A Change |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
33. There's no "right" there -- the word "arms" had no non-military meaning |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 07:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Plus |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 08:24 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Times were different then and citizens needed... |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I think it's obvious |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Does the First Amendment mention limits on the types of "speech" |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 08:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Our founders did indeed write provisions for a people to... |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
35. I already answered you; |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
40. From the definitions pointed to above it seems that a well regulated |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
42. From the Oxford English Dictionary (dictionary of etymological history)... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
43. it means a disaffected wack job |
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