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rockymountaindem
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:04 PM Original message |
How would you respond to this anti-union argument? |
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acmavm
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. Tell her without a union she'd be damn lucky to get minimum |
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rockymountaindem
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I kind of did tell her that |
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Selatius
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. The Fair Labor Standards Act was the product of unionists with help from.. |
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rustydog
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. does this person get days off from work? |
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Jackpine Radical
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. There is no particular linkage between wages & productivity. |
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SharonAnn
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Tue Sep-26-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. But there IS linkage between wages and office politics. She would |
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Sanity Claws
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. Actually what she said is not true |
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spag68
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Wages |
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rman
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. Wages used to be higher, |
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Vincardog
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. Look to history. In the last 5 years productivity is up pay is down. |
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MindPilot
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
8. Speaking as a former Denverite, your sig is, well...accurate. |
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LisaM
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. Unrelated to the wage issue, a bookstore does not make much off $90 books |
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marano35
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Tue Sep-26-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. Tell her shes right. |
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CountAllVotes
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. if it were not for my union I would have NO health insurance |
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rockymountaindem
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Well, up here in Canada that isn't a concern |
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LostInAnomie
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. Unless she were to get commission I fail to see her point. |
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Nickster
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. Just my own experience from working in a union shop. My wages went |
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Rabrrrrrr
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. At a bookstore, I doubt that there would be merit-based pay |
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gully
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
16. "ties her wage to the productivity of the worst worker?" |
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lrsmith1
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Tue Sep-26-06 03:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. Then the schelps will go to their union |
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gully
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Tue Sep-26-06 03:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I worked in finance and every like company had the same story. |
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lrsmith1
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Tue Sep-26-06 05:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Yes, I said they would have to defend |
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gully
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Tue Sep-26-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. Your point is not limited to unions. |
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Occulus
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Wed Sep-27-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
65. And if the job you currently work is during class, you...? |
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lrsmith1
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Wed Sep-27-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. That is the sorriest excuse I've ever heard. My ex-wife worked from home |
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earth mom
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Wed Sep-27-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Tell that to all the workers who have been outsourced or those |
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newyawker99
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Wed Sep-27-06 08:02 AM Response to Reply #33 |
59. Hi lrsmith1!! |
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originalpckelly
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. People who work without unions don't get productivity raises... |
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thoughtanarchist
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
18. She sounds like she's blaming the floor for her weight. |
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BrotherBuzz
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
19. Collective bargaining with a party of one against management? |
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last1standing
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. There's a lot to contradict in that argument. |
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spag68
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. Union |
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BlooInBloo
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
22. Why respond to a jackass? |
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noonwitch
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
23. I appreciate my union for the most part, but... |
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last1standing
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. You've just described every group of people in existence. |
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spag68
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. The UAW |
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INdemo
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Tue Sep-26-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I agree..but the UAW is certainly not as corrupt as the Construction |
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catnhatnh
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
24. Ok.... |
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LisaM
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Tue Sep-26-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Actually, I don't agree with you there. I worked at a college bookstore |
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Shakespeare
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
28. She may be an econ major, but she doesn't know shit about unions... |
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ComerPerro
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Wed Sep-27-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
64. doesn't know shit about econ, it sounds like |
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catnhatnh
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
29. One more reply... |
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patcox2
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Tue Sep-26-06 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
30. Her argument only works assuming equal bargaining power. |
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China_cat
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Tue Sep-26-06 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
35. Here are some of the reasons. |
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lrsmith1
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Tue Sep-26-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. That 27% more sounds good for the employees |
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China_cat
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Tue Sep-26-06 06:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. It is a total of 27% more |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Sep-26-06 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
36. A *campus bookstore* would base wages on productivity? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME
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Tue Sep-26-06 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
37. Depends On The Union, Depends On The Company. |
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Hippo_Tron
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Tue Sep-26-06 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
38. How does she measure her productivity? |
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Sapere aude
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Tue Sep-26-06 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
40. Wages aren't tied to anything. They are only what the employer can and |
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northzax
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Tue Sep-26-06 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
41. in an ideal world, sure |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Tue Sep-26-06 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
44. And therein lies the mechanism through wich the right wing coopts |
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Toucano
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Tue Sep-26-06 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
45. Your friend's argument is fundamentally incorrect. |
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DefenseLawyer
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Tue Sep-26-06 07:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. And there you have it. |
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bluedogyellowdog
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Tue Sep-26-06 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
48. Higher productivity means squeezing more work out of you for less pay |
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Touchdown
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Tue Sep-26-06 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
49. United we bargain. Divided we beg. |
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brook
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Tue Sep-26-06 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
50. The short of it- |
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leftofthedial
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Tue Sep-26-06 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
51. your friend is an idiot |
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POAS
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Tue Sep-26-06 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
52. In my last union job my wages were tied to productivity |
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boolean
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Tue Sep-26-06 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
54. Tell her to switch majors... |
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ismnotwasm
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Tue Sep-26-06 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
55. I work as a nurse in a union |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Sep-26-06 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
56. If "productivity" were the test, the bosses would be unemployed. |
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B Calm
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Tue Sep-26-06 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
57. In a non union workplace it's not how hard you work, or if you have |
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Nye Bevan
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Wed Sep-27-06 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
60. There is not necessarily a conflict between unions and merit-based pay |
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meganmonkey
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Wed Sep-27-06 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
61. The whole concept of a union (in general, and in relation to labor) |
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China_cat
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Wed Sep-27-06 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
62. If her arguments were correct |
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ComerPerro
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Wed Sep-27-06 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
63. She is an idiot if she thinks that retail ties your wage |
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Jcrowley
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Wed Sep-27-06 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
66. Agree with her |
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earth mom
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Wed Sep-27-06 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
69. Tell her that without the Union-she'd be making half what she's making now |
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