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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:26 PM Original message |
The problem is the word "liberal" vs the word "conservative" |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. We'll just call 'em "Cons" n/t |
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gilpo (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 08:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. And if we're lucky....ex-cons in a few years! |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. I disagree. I think "Liberal" means open, honest, kind, generous |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I kind of agree |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'm proud of being a liberal. As for our opponents, I suggest |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. The true conservatives are not nearly as harmful as the extremists. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. although I see exactly what you mean |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. "Morally unrestrained"--that's the big one |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Republicans are morally unrestrained. They are greedy |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Does the word "conservative" mean that, though? |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Like I said, I can see your point but I think that the problem |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. Liberalism won the cold war, the WWII, and every democracy in |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. Because "life, conservation and the pursuit of happiness" |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. See, you're falling into their trap |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. as if |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. Progressive vs Traditionalists is how I look at it. eom |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
12. I disagree liberal means forward looking while conservative |
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kentjay44 (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
14. i`m a liberal |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
15. Fuck that shit. I'm a LIBERAL and god damned proud of it. |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Of course I'm not criticizing the philosophy. I'm saying it's a bad term. |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. "bad term"? "more positive"? |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
16. First of all, neither term applies across-the-board to the Parties |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
17. "Liberal" means good things to us. We associate it with Democrats. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'm not throwing out one of the best descriptives of our views. |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. "loose or approximate" |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
21. When friends of mine ask me the difference between the two... |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
22. maybe thats why the term Progressive is popular |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
24. T'was not always thus... |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
25. You all are missing the pugs meaning when the say liberal... |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
26. Why don't they have a Conservative Arts Degree in Education? |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
28. Does even one person get the argument I'm trying to make? |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
29. The words are not the problem-- its black and white thinking |
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