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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:18 PM Original message |
Smoking vs. Drinking |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. I've never smoked but I do drink |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. My observations: |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Despite the snarkiness, I'll address your concern that this topic |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It could be termed "classist" |
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nickinSTL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. I don't think it's strictly a class issue... |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. Guess I will not get into this one. No basic study |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. What do you mean, clients of public agencies? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Here,here! |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. ditto for me. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. In some ways, yes |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. hey, I drink and smoke |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. That's interesting. It's the opposite of what I've found, |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 05:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. well, yes |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. Bingo n/t |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. Not necessarily Puritanism |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
40. The doctors and lawyers and musicians I know don't smoke. |
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hiphopnation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 11:35 AM Response to Reply #40 |
70. here's bettin' you don't know any good musicians |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. When I was in my 20s, 30s and 40s, all the guys I played with smoked. |
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techhead (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm 31, white, married, and you need to get out more. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Welcome to DU! |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. I don't have a "pre-conceived notion," |
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techhead (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. The only generalization I've seen over the past few decades |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 08:38 AM Response to Reply #20 |
87. You do have a "pre-conceived notion" |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. Hi techhead!! |
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trixie (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
46. I'm like you |
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trekbiker (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
78. "a lot of people in engineering school did".... ????? |
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techhead (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Go to school on the East Coast |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 07:42 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Agreed |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 07:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
84. Call out the fatties! Lazy bastards! |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
11. dude, (before he died of cancer) my dad was the president of a bank |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
13. I am interested in statistics demonstrating a significant correlation, |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Sorry, I don't have any statistics, but I noticed the other night |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Could be just where you live. |
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trixie (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 07:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. This might be the cause |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
14. Drinking here vs. drinking in Europe |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. oh, and they smoke extra nasty cigarettes there too. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 07:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
54. I didn't notice too many smokers when I was traveling in Sicily |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #54 |
61. I went to a party in Berlin |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. I'm hearing more about cinque terre |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. my partner and i are going - not a tour |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 07:15 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. It's the new hot place to go in Italy |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. What you're describing are social differences, not inherent ones. |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Yeah, I suppose it's a choice between a slow death (lung cancer) |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
16. Q.E.D. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
17. Lame correlation. |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. No assumptions, just observations. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Birds of a feather, and all that. |
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im10ashus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. "people with almost no money are spending a hundred dollars... |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. These are people with whom I'm working on budgeting issues, and |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
23. Smoking Has NADA To Do With Success. But I'd Wager It Far More Likely That |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. I agree that alcoholism has certainly ruined many lives. |
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jedicord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
25. Smoker and Drinker here. |
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trixie (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. Husband owns a business, many degrees.... |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
30. Ban it all!!!!! |
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im10ashus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. You really ARE the devil, grrrrl! |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
33. They are both poisons, neither can be justified |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I agree that urinalysis is nonsense, |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:40 AM Response to Reply #33 |
58. Lots of evidence that wine (red in particular) is in fact very good for |
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Raydawg1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
36. people smoke to relive stress/depression |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I played a music job at an AA party several years ago. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Oh, yeah, my boyfriend used to umpire the Clean and Sober league |
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Raydawg1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #43 |
74. lawers definately suffer from lots of stress. Maybee the country is |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
38. I have never smoked, I drink moderately |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
41. Outlaw nicotine. Legalize Pot. |
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Mutley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
49. It's not up to the government to control our bad habits for us |
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nickinSTL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
51. I don't smoke or drink |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-26-06 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
53. It's all so clear to me now! |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
55. I Think You Need to Get Out More |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:42 AM Response to Reply #55 |
67. You bring up a good point, |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Easy - Vices |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
56. Food is my guilty pleasure.. I've never smoked and I rarely drink |
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im10ashus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. And Coke is full of sugar. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. The Difference Between Wine and Coke |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
59. My observations are that smoking is something that cuts across class lines |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. There is no error in one's own observations, only in drawing conclusions |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
62. what exactly is a "client of a public agency?" |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. A person on SSI, SSD, TANF, county health services, etc. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:22 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Well, I'm a drinker, but not a smoker |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
63. Many of the creative outsider people I know smoke. |
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MamaBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
69. Interesting. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
71. the art world runs on alcohol. |
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RedStateShame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
72. I've noticed that smokers, non-smokers, drinkers, and non-drinkers alike.. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
75. If you do either right, its expensive as hell |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
77. I observed from this post that you don't get out of your comfort zone |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 12:26 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Thanks for contributing to the discussion. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
83. Smoking v. Drinking = False Dichotomy |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
86. Only one of my friends is a smoker. |
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