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Strathos (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 09:28 AM Original message |
They're gonna do it, aren't they? Gay Marriage |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. I can't speak for anyone else, but... |
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Strathos (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 09:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I hope you're right |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 09:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. That's perhaps the worst part of this whole thing... |
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Chipper Chat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 09:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. You speak for me. Was about to type the same thing. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. You're wrong about the gay agenda |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
3. It's not a priority for most gays, |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 09:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. So in the meanwhile, please step to the back of the bus |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 09:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Gee. |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 10:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. A response to what post? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. With all due respect |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. It's not? Well, that's interesting, since it's a priority for all I know. |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. You know, I respected you for your input in the Leopold threads. |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. And now, |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Okay, cool! Good luck with the Ritalin. |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Social justice does not require proper timing. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Deleted sub-thread |
Beware the Beast Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
30. It isn't???? |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Second class? |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. "gay marriage can kiss its own ass goodby for another decade or two." |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. There is no "right to marry" |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Um, yes there is... for straight people. Not for me. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. It's (quite literally) an entitlement. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. To me, entitlements such as the ones I'm denied, are the same as rights. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Social security itself is an entitlement. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Semantics then. Equality of entitlements then. |
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Beware the Beast Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. It's using your words against you. That's what lawyers do. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. True. I should know better. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. 'Justice' should never be regarded as mere semantics. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. If any? The same entitlements, if any? Are you insinuating that there |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. (sigh) Read my prior post. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I have read all your posts... and I don't understand why you are arguing |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
86. Actually, TN, she's completely wrong |
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asthmaticeog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. No right to "drink at a given water fountain," either. |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Once upon a time, that was so in some places |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
83. Actually, you are both factually and legally incorrect |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. What's amazing is that we have to keep reminding some people... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Deleted message |
OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Dismissed? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. There's not much question that DOMA was an abomination, imho. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. Oh Brother... |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Why not do it now? |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. What Happened To: "Timing is all, and now is not the time" ?? |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. *** Crickets Chirping *** |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
51. And the right time would be when, exactly? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
69. Are you a spokesperson for most gays? |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
82. When Exactly Would A "Good" Time Be? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
84. Please show us some polling data to support this assertion |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
9. Personally, I don't think |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
10. Let me get this straight |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. "Welcome to life"???---- |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. No sarcasm |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. so we just belly up? we don't |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Oh no |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 11:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. maybe posting |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 01:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Ironically, not everyone on this forum DOES agree... including... |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Thanks for pointing that out. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 01:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I don't really find that |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I do find it ironic that someone would claim that the OP is ... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. what I was hearing |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. No, HE wasn't saying that, but he was saying that everyone here... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. I agree with you |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
17. I LTTE'd my local paper about the senate move |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
19. why doesn't a Dem senator tack on a provision BANNING divorce...? |
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Strathos (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. Exactly |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
20. They're going to speak Gay "Marriage" as long as the $$$ and |
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Strathos (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. I think it's only LOW ON THE LIST of |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
72. see, they have a problem |
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Strathos (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. THE DEMOCRATS PROBLEM |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. I remember a time, not long ago, when the gay community was split |
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Strathos (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Thanks n/t |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Overturn the Defense of Marriage Act |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. it passed with veto proof majorities |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I didn't know that |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
78. No one had standing until 2004 when MA legalized marriage |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
60. PLEASE don't take |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
65. Protection Not Perfection |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Wow. This thread is disheartening, to say the least. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
85. Tell it to Basic Rights Oregon |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Oh really? Basic Rights Oregon said this? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. YES "Protection Not Perfection" |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
54. Anit-gay feelings motivate more than pro-gay |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Yes, indeed, wanting equality is probably an aberration. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. ... |
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HornBuckler (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
74. I'm with you. |
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ChickMagic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
79. The reasons sound exactly like the interracial ban |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
87. This issue has become very convoluted over the years, and the |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. If civil unions came with the same rights, protections and privileges... |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
91. Locking. |
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