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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:14 PM
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Why I believe Bill Clinton was and still is loved in the world
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 01:30 PM by glarius
President Clinton can come to Canada or go anywhere in the world, and be welcomed by cheering crowds. The same cannot be said of George Bush, who is greeted with anti-Bush demonstrations everywhere.
I believe the main reason is that Clinton considers the U.S.A. to be a great country, but realizes it is one country among many.... The Bush administration, on the other hand, considers the U.S.A. to be THE country, meant to be over all the others.....
We, in the rest of the world realize that the U.S.A. is the most powerful country in the world today. Until the Bushies took over, we were secure with that knowledge. Now, I believe many countries are uneasy and some even afraid of what the U.S.A. will do with that power.
I never, ever, thought I would fear the U.S.A., but now, I'm not exactly afraid, but I am apprehensive. I hate having to feel that way. I live in a town in southern Ontario, not too far from the New York state border and all my life, Canadians and Americans have gone back and forth across that border with ease and in friendship. I personally know of many intermarriages and personal friendships between the two countries.
Now Canada is being branded by Indiana Republican John Hostettler, who is heading a hearing on terrorism, as a breeding ground for terrorists....practically the world headquarters for terrorism!
This ugly message of his will, I fear, get spread among the American population and take hold, just as the false story of the 9/11 terrorists coming from Canada was spread. Many in America still believe it, although it is completely false. NONE of them came from Canada.

I guess the reason I wanted to post this was just to say, how different things would be, in so many ways, if Clinton were still president....:loveya:




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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:18 PM
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1. Hostettler is a total wacko nutjob.
No one takes him seriously except the fag-hating fundies of southern-Indiana. There is a huge campaign to get rid of him in November. Sorry Canada - dont let that little weasel upset you.
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hashibabba Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:24 PM
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4. Sad to say, I agree with you...
I'm apprehensive about the road we're taking too, and I'm from the U.S.!! I'd love to have Bill Clinton back, but I can only hope we get someone like him back in the White House in 2008, like before Bushie drops the bomb (which could happen any day now)!

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:21 PM
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2. That is why, when chosing a President,
it is important to stay within our own species.

Simians are cute, but they just don't belong in the White House.

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:22 PM
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3. If clinton had any ethics or integrity remaining, he wouldn't be FRIENDS
with anyone in the bush regime.

He would have stood strong and opposed the invasion of iraq. With his urging the invasion of iraq COULD have been prevented.

Senator Clinton and bill clinton could have changed EVERYTHING, yet they sold us down the river. I can't forgive them for siding with the enemy. I was their most staunch and loyal supporter and I feel betrayed.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:26 PM
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5. I understand how you feel, but don't you think that Clinton
would have found a way to avoid going to war, if he had been president? From things I have heard him say....Saddam was being contained and did not pose a threat...etc....I somehow believe that if Clinton were president the war would not have happened.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:57 PM
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9. Saddam was "being contained" because of the illegal no-fly zone,
the repeated air strikes on communications and other Iraqi facilities, the sanctions that hastened the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, mostly children who couldn't get medicines. But "the price was worth it," spoke the Clinton mouthpiece, Madeleine Albright (revealing the despicable truth about that operation as it turns out). Remember?

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:22 AM
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11. Clinton DIDN'T GO TO WAR with iraq when he was president, when presented
with the, exact evidence as bush.

BUT, he could have stood up and loudly denounced bush's invasion... I truly believe that if clinton had lead a rallying cry to not invade iraq, that the will of the people would have prevented the occupation.

Clinton chose to sit back and do nothing, and worse, even support the bush regime.

I can't forgive him for that. I really was a believer.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:59 AM
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13. I see what you're saying but I'm looking at this from strictly a world
perspective. I can understand how you have been disappointed in him, but looking at it from the point of view of a non-American, who is mainly interested in how a war would have been prevented....I still believe, from the things I have heard Clinton say, that he would not have gone to war and things would be much different today.
You're right, he has proved to be unwilling or unable to stand up to the Bushes. Perhaps there is a reason for this...All I know is that his reasonable and informed dealings with other countries gave me and many others confidence that he would do the right thing globaly.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:30 PM
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6. Sooo TRUE. Should be a GIANT RED FLAG to dems...and then there's NAFTA...
Enough of Clintons. Time for our party to move on, not way to the right, but proudly on the LEFT.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:32 PM
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7. "keep your enenmies closer..."
is the admonition for those who wish to survive and triumph.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:14 PM
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10. That relationship has nothing to do with ethics or integrity
although it may seem that way to to you because it really pisses you off. I think Clinton does it in the spirit of bipartisanship and trying to smooth over the rampant partisan divide. He is somewhat of a traditionalist post-presidency. You are taking this way too personally, but that is your prerogative.

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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:59 PM
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16. I too feel betrayed by the Clintons
But I'd take either of them over any repug any day. Neither would be my first choice in a primary after their betrayal.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:12 PM
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17. That is what I'm trying to say....
He would be a HUGE improvement over the current mess in the White House. Despite his faults, I don't believe anyone can say that Clinton has a desire to remake the world in his image....like the deluded criminal who is currently in office.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:47 PM
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8. Clinton can go anywhere. Albright can go anywhere. Kissinger can't
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 01:49 PM by higher class
even land in some countries for fear of apprehension for crimes associated with Allende-Pinochet.

And George won't go anywhere where they won't sing, dance, praise, and bow down and kiss his robe (or make him embarass himself).
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:28 AM
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12. or if President Gore was allowed to take his rightful place
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:00 PM
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14. George Carlin summed up Clinton the best for me.
ALL politicians are dishonest and full of shit.

The reason people LOVE Bill Clinton is because he was completely honest, about being completely full of shit!
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:06 PM
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15. Maybe it's just me but methinks there would be no cheering
crowd in Tehran. They didn't even like Carter.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:28 PM
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18. I love him too!


Clinton's the best! :loveya:
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