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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:07 AM Original message |
Why Busby lost |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
1. thanks for the post and welcome to DU |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
2. READ MY LIPS! IMMIGRATION IS THE ISSUE FOR 06!! |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Democrats need to be very careful on this issue. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I think that's a little overly pessimistic |
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Squeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Disagree |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. They wouldn't care about immigration if they didn't think it was taking |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Bullsh*t she has the same possition as their president |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Great. Another attempted thread hi-jacking by the immigration boogieman. |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. We have the same possition as Bush |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I really didn't say we were on the "wrong side" of the issue. I said |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Go back and look at the polls |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. Bush may be closer to "the people" but not closer to the "voters." n/t |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. And They are Almost Doing Roves Work for Him |
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Misskittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
51. In CA-50th, immigration is a very real issue. In other places in the |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. For Republicans.... |
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Misskittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. I want to amend my post. Immig. was key, but there were other |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. So the Dems should pander to bigots? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
59. You can stand on your principles |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
23. you couldn't be more |
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farmbo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
40. The Minutemen held a rally in Ohio (Columbus) and eight people showed up |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
69. I agree |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
65. The problem is that there are more than TWO sides on immigration issue... |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
71. Busby shot herself in the head with that remark about illegals voting. |
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TheFarseer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
77. I think you are right for the wrong reasons |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 11:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I agree |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
8. voter turnout less than 25% in so california nt |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. That proves my point here |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
11. Um, you know that this is an insanely red district that |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I live in the district, I walked the precincts. We should have won. |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
41. I live in the district myself. |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. This contest was WAY overhyped by the media |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. ... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
60. Then wy didn't the party run someone who did? nt |
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BonnieJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:50 AM Original message |
But people think immigration is part of the corruption |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
20. Low turnout hurt Busby. When I went to vote, I was the only one there, |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. That's just sick. |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I put a lot into this. I'm very disappointed |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Well, maybe, Just maybe.. |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:31 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. From your keyboard to God's ear |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. "Another shot in November"? |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:58 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Yes, Francine won the primary |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
21. Forget immigration. The war is the issue Democrats care about |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
75. I think if she plays the war card right AND appeals to vets too... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
22. fewer than four in ten voters turned out for this election. |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. That is exactly what I'm saying |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
25. Busby lost because CA 50 is very republican |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Wrong. Republicans didn't turn out to vote |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
26. Have you been to her web site. |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I peddled that crap with Kerry too |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. OK, but you said YOU did not know |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I didn't bother to go and look |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. You can't expect the corporate media... |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. someone motivated enough to bother to check out a web site |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
27. If Dems could have won by turning out, then they are fucking idiots |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:16 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Most people just aren't as political as us |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
42. There was a piece about the race last night |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Yea, I walked the precincts |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Thanks for the insight. |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
43. She lost by 4% in a district that's 2/3 Republican |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Basically my beef boils down to this: |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #46 |
54. totally agree |
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mountebank (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
45. Thanks for all your effort in CA-50, DeBunk. Don't you think that the |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:42 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. No, I don't |
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mountebank (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. You're probably right. I was just reading some posts on Daily Kos |
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jerry611 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
48. I'll tell you why... |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I simply disagree |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
55. i have a very legit reason: JOHN CONYERS AS CHAIR |
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misternormal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
57. I have an idea.... |
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Halliburton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
61. I agree |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
62. Didn't she do really well for such a red district? |
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DeBunk (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 11:55 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Yes, but.... |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Dems in the district may feel hopeless, considering past history |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
63. I think the lack of turnout is ELECTION FATIGUE |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. I think the Dems need a victory too... |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 12:02 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. I so agree with your posts. |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
64. I think you are right. Not being as bad is enough to keep you close |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
68. May I ask what kind of voting machines they use in San Diego? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Diebold optical scan in my precinct (yes, I am in CA-50) |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. They have optical scans but TSX machines for "assisted votes" |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. Right now, it's optical scan, but they are going to change to touch-screen |
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