CNN: We Had To Go To War

[kpete]

CNN: We Had To Go To War
by katchen

Fri Jun 02, 2006 at 06:56:36 AM PDT
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Blitzer and John Roberts (CNN Sr. National Correspondent) were discussing the talks in Vienna, at which six world powers decided to present Iran with an ultimatum: "Stop the nuclear activity and receive benefits or continue and there will be costs."

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Here comes the kicker. Note first how Roberts mispeaks and confuses Iran with Iraq. I've boldfaced the absolutely outrageous part:

ROBERTS: Don't forget, there has been resolution on sanctions against North Korea because of its nuclear program that's been languishing for three years. And then, of course, there is the issue, if they do get sanctions leveled against Iraq--leveled against Iran, are they going to work? Don't forget, Iraq endured 11 years of sanctions, and, you know, we still had to go to war to get rid of what it was that they had.

BLITZER: Good point, John. Thank you very much.

Apparently, the fact that no WMD were ever found in Iraq merely causes Roberts to avoid using the term "WMD." Yet the necessity of the war still remains, cut loose--liberated, if you will--from any specific reason: we had to go to war to get rid of what it was that they had.

more at:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/6/2/95636/11757
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/01/sitroom.02.html

[Lautremont]

1. It's not a war. It's a fucking massacre.

[madokie]

11. Thats a fact, becoming more apparent every day

[coalition_unwilling]

38. Thank you -- the word "war" normally connotes two evenly-matched

adversaries (nation-states) slugging it out in set piece battles to resolve territorial disputes.

I would call this a "Guerilla War," in that one side (Iraqi Resistance) is following a time-honored tradition of avoiding said set-piece battles and instead engaging colonialist forces at a time and place of its choosing (read Vietnam, Algeria, France 1941-45, Spain in early 19th century)

[Dunvegan]

2. NeoCons: Iraq needed to get rid of their oil and their Euro-based bourse

[pberq]

Kick & Nominated ! - a good example of how the propaganda

is put out there for the brainwashing of the public.

[LSK]

3. THEY DIDNT FUCKING HAVE ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[jojo54]

7. H A L L E F U C K I N G L U J A H !!!!!!!

[Qutzupalotl]

48. They had an infrastructure

...of sorts...and we got rid of it.

[MADem]

4. BLITZER: Good point, John. Thank you very much.

Do they HEAR what they say??? Incredible!!!!

Well, we KNOW what they had--OIL!!! And we wanted to get RID of it by shipping it stateside!!

[cantstandbush]

16. Let's "blitz" the Blitzer with his own words. Getting off my e-mail now.

There is little that we can except to stay in their faces as much as possible.

[Jigarotta]

43. I despise that lil brillo pad sucker Lesterical.

there's a long list of nauseating shills, but he takes the friggin' prize.

[NanceGreggs]

5. To us living here in Canada ...

... Mr. John Roberts will always be "J.D. Roberts", which was his moniker when he was a VeeJay on MuchMusic (Canada's MTV station).

He was every bit as effective interviewing band members then as he is reporting legitimate 'news' now - i.e., STILL A LAUGHABLE, KNOW-NOTHING NERD trying to play 'reporter' with the big boys.

[sasquatch]

6. Can't you hosers give him a wedgie or something?

[NanceGreggs]

15. Hey, watch who you're calling a "Hoser"!

I'm an American, not a hoser - not that there's anything wrong with it.

I knew J.D. back in the day; I was working as a writer for a music business magazine here in Toronto at the same time he was a VeeJay. As you would expect, he was an arrogant SOB.

And believe me, he did get his virtual 'wedgies' - everyone in the business thought he was an IDIOT, and no one made much of a secret of their opinion of his self-delusional 'star' status at music industry events.

[sasquatch]

17. I watched Much too when I was a kid

I had sattelite tv at the time because cable wasn't an option and DirectTV only carried Much at the time and didn't carry MTV. I saw some cool Canadian TV videos because of it as well.

[robinlynne]

24. what's a hoser?

[sasquatch]

26. It's a term Canadians apply to themselves

Watch the movie "Strange Brew" sometime.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=skkGnuxMP8s&search=strange%20brew
Here's the movie trailer.

[robinlynne]

32. thanks.

[treestar]

13. Can you hosers take him back? Maybe he's an illegal alien or

something?

:nuke:

[NanceGreggs]

18. Nah, he's all yours now!

He's a US citizen; has been for years. Can't describe to you the astonishment here when it was first announced he was going to the US as a 'newsman'!

But that was back in the day, when we were all living with the illusion of professionalism and an actual grasp of the facts mattering on US TV news.

[donco6]

25. Figures.

They can let him in and all he's contributing is more propaganda. At least the illegals give me cheap onions.

[Minstrel Boy]

27. Here's a pic of "JD Roberts" from his veejay days:

[IntravenousDemilo]

29. Beat me by (that) much...

Well, now there are two sources. Same pic, though.

[IntravenousDemilo]

28. Pics of JD Roberts are not that widespread on the net.

I've only been able to find one that isn't a tiny thumbnail, at http://zuluville.blogspot.com/.

Go down to "February 4" to see a then-and-now comparison.

[Rose Siding]

8. Cue graphics, cue war drums

SENIOR National Correspondent :wow:

[JeffR]

9. Ah, ol' JD strikes again

He was a "Video jockey" with (Toronto's) CITY-TV owned "MuchMusic", a music video channel on which he... appeared as the (one of the) first on-air personalities when the network launched in 1984. Roberts... cohosted "Canada AM" in the early 1990s. In his Canadian media career, he went by the name J. D. Roberts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.D._Roberts

Anyone who watched Hair Boy back in the day knows he's uniquely unqualified to be taken seriously, whether he's talking about American politics or Bon Jovi. Too bad CNN doesn't get it.

[sinkingfeeling]

10. "...to get reid of what it was that they had." Now that's informative!

Exactly what was it that they had....air, clean water, electricity? It sure as hell wasn't WMDs!

[Rose Siding]

12. "Report errors" page link-

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form6a.html?2

[The_Casual_Observer]

14. "get rid of what it was that they had" They don't even know what to

say anymore.

[Jacobin]

21. We had to get rid of those imaginary WMDs

They can't call them WMDs anymore, so they call them "what they had", so I guess we had to go to war to get rid of the "WTDs"

Those What They Hads can be very dangerous, doncha know?

[The_Casual_Observer]

23. It's like the idiot caught himself just before he said "WMD"

and prattled that out instead.
Naturally nobody asked him "Well, what was it they had?"

[derby378]

19. Operation Mockingbird is GO!

You'll write what you're told, you fucking news drones. Seig heil Bush!!

[spanone]

20. Dear John, and just what was it they 'had'?????

Absolutely nothing.

[reichstag911]

22. My email to CNN...

...and thanks for the tip.

The following excerpt from the discussion between Wolfie and J.D. Roberts, the former Canadian veejay, now "Senior National Correspondent," laughably enough, illustrates perfectly why I do not watch television. There were no WMDs, therefore we did not have "to go to war to get rid of what it was that they had."

Until such time as your "journalists" once again start competently practicing journalism, I will continue to get my news elsewhere.

ROBERTS: ...Don't forget, Iraq endured 11 years of sanctions, and, you know, we still had to go to war to get rid of what it was that they had.

BLITZER: Good point, John. Thank you very much.

[johnaries]

30. "Get rid of what they had" - clean water, electricity,, etc. n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

31. What they had: control of their oil resources. nt.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

33. get rid of what they had and replace it with terrorists and massacres.

[slaveplanet]

34. and what it is they had

Was oil.


saddam was pumping too much of it, and the the oil companies needed to shut off the tap.

Mid 90's oil company documents prove this, and they openly colluded to do something about it.

In the documents they complained about Saddam's over-pumping, and how all the
independent refineries were refining too much. So they set in motion a plan
to buy up all the independent refineries in US and Europe, then shut them down.

You are seeing the result ...$70 + a barrel oil, never to go down again.

They want control of Iran's oil as well, so they can shut off the spigot at will.

They will use the phony excuse of "You can keep your nuclear reactors as long as you get the fuel from us bit by bit" to do it. Nevermind, that it's blackmail and violates the NNPT, and both countries are signed on to it.


Meanwhile South Korea has been caught illegally refining to weapons grade and there's hardly a peep.

Blitzer and Roberts are just playing the company line... that of the corrupt sheriff.

You know the one who throws down the revolver to the bad guy who's just been thrown from his horse.

"go ahead, pick it up, give me an excuse to blast ya"


Is it any wonder they call us "The Great Satan"

[robbedvoter]

35. And what exactly was that they had? Lice? cooties? what?

Why did we need to get rid of...."what they had" - that we can't even name it?

[WinkyDink]

36. That puts the kibosh on my feeling sorry for JR at being over-looked

for Rather's job.

[LynneSin]

37. Get rid of what? The innocent civilians still living there

because they didn't have much else other than that!

[eek]

39. my email to Situation Room and to CNN report Errors

This is reporting?
You must be joking.

"what they had"
"good point"

That is NO point, much less a good one.
What they had is...nothing worth starting a war over.
It is beyond me how you continue to "catapult the propaganda" for this administration despite the fact that appproval ratings have been solidly in the 30's and 20's for quite some time now.

I must check and see whether CNN still uses the Most Respected tagline.
Aren't there laws about false advertising? If so then CNN is in trouble!

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ROBERTS: ...Don't forget, Iraq we still had to go to war to get rid of what it was that they had.

BLITZER: Good point, John. Thank you very much.

[EmmitFitzhume]

41. Not surprising . . .

this seems to be par for the course for CNN recently. At least they didn't use any maps form a white supremacist organization this time. With "trusted" reporting like this it's no wonder their ratings are hurting.

[newyawker99]

47. Hi EmmitFitzhume!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[bdamomma]

40. what ??????Iraq did not have anything to go war for.

We just committed genocide on their population, and have numerous American casualities and wounded.

[gully]

42. I hear they had an abundance of lead pencils.

:eyes:

[tjwash]

44. "get rid of what it was that they had."

And what they had, was, well IT. They had it, and we had to get rid of it. Yes-sir-ee-Bob, the it factor, is no longer a factor of it out there, and it just does not exist anymore.

And if you don't think it was a bad thing, you just don't know what it was capable of, and if you don't think we should have gotten rid of it, you are just not supporting the troops, and desecrating the names of those soldiers that have already been killed.

Now we need to stay out there because it might spring back up, and, well, it might be bad...

:eyes: Ahh, CNN,the voice of America at war.

[Zhade]

45. More lies from Conservative News Network.

I despair for this country.

[Warren DeMontague]

46. "What they had"? You mean the rusted trailer in the desert?

Fucking blathering goons. This is why I don't watch "Teevee Newz" (tm) anymore.