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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 08:58 AM Original message |
There is something we might be forgetting about the Haditha…… |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. I have a problem |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I knew some would disagree and at no point did I say or even.............. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I didn't mean to imply you |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. But some DU members assume... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I have never seen a post (except from you) |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Senseless slaughter is senseless slaughter... |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
60. This thread is about the Haditha tragedy. You are equating US troops |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Such a long drawn out response... |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. How dare you accuse me of something I did not say! Your actions |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. What was it you said? |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #70 |
92. 'That no matter who it is, targeting civilians is wrong.' ~ Yet you |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #92 |
103. Perhaps more important |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #103 |
119. Thank you H2OMan ~ I agree and since it rarely works, I think it's best |
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kiraboo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. A long drawn-out response |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. No matter who does it... |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
89. Scoody Boo, I agree that targeting civilians is wrong but as with........ |
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kiraboo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #71 |
104. I'm with you. But sometimes people think |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Insurgent killing civilians? |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. So the Resistance can kill civilians? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. It is the US government who used the term |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. So if it was your homeland... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. We have yet to determine that it's the resistance who is wantonly |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Well... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:03 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. So all them brown-skinned fellas is fighting for the same reason, then? nt |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Whatever the reason a person... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. My nephew was there too |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. Did you happen to see the two brit SAS fellas dressed up as |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Not saying it does not happen... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Actually that is pretty much what you did say. |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. I never said that... |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
64. I thought you said you were contractor in Iraq? Why would the Iraqi |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
76. I will tell you... |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #64 |
82. Now you're calling our military "mercenaries"?? OMFG.................. |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Where did you get that? |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. I didn't mean to direct that comment to you, it was from another......... |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
97. Catrina, I think the use of the word "mercenary in the same sentence...... |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. And I take offense that you have completely mischaracterized what I |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #100 |
109. I simply called into question the issue of using............. |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. But you called into question, something that was not said. |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. I take offense at being called a "mercenary"... |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:52 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Well, I did not say you were a mercenary, I asked you what you meant by |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. In light of what you presented here this is going to sound very.......... |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. No, not naive at all. I thought the same thing until someone explained to |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 06:39 AM Response to Reply #117 |
124. WOW, there are no words for what I'm thinking and feeling right........... |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-02-06 03:15 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. It is a shock when you first find out. I didn't believe it for a while |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
79. as a mercenary?? and you had the right to be there shooting at anyone |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. I have said before, I never shot anybody. |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #84 |
95. You were not a soldier ~ what right did you have to be there? Did you |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. I was a soldier, a Ranger once... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. YEAH YEAH..CUSTER BATTLE DID THE SAME AND YA KNOW WHAT..AS FAR AS THE |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Well... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Anyone who supported the invasion |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. So children and civilians... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:42 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Soldiers |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
65. You seem to be working hard to try to get someone here to condone the |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. I do not see the deaths of anyone... |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
78. Who has made those claims here? You seem to be making things |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. I have admitted to being wrong... |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
113. Good for you. All decent people feel outrage at the murder of civililians |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
81. yes i9t is an atrocity when our soldiers commit murder!! ..murder!! n/t |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
101. That is what I have said all along. n/t |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
90. Is this another diversion tactic? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Sometimes yes. |
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Batgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. The soldiers' actions are done in our name |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. You fail to understand the "strategy" of the Resistance. |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
99. You are the only here saying the resistence can kill civilians. Why don't |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. Thank you. By calling them "insurgents" we're accepting the |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
52. And some freepers think that because murderers kill women and |
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Scoody Boo (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. This is not what I am doing... |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. This thread is not about insurgents. Start a thread if that's what you |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
77. well there wouldn't be insurgents if we didn't start a war of lies.. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. The greater responsibility belongs to the killers |
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ender (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. combat fatigue/"cracking" is absolutely true. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Being jumpy is one thing |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Yes...execution style killing involves calculation. One could understand |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
41. Saddam was under real stress, the US was after him and there had |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. The reason for this incident... |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. "ethics and values" Like abandoning your post for the last year of service |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Ethics and Values are antithetical to Bushworld...n/t |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. very sad, |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
4. its a matter of personal responsibility |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. What level of responsibility do the liars who got us there bear in it? nt |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
75. They get a free trip to the Hague |
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Truthy Nessy (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
11. All I can think of though is the children who were point blank killed |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
13. You, me, and everyone else I have heard or read on this topic |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Good point... |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Right. Just following orders does not take away the experience |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. Remember "Shock & Awe"? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
14. Don't you even want to know what the other 30,000 Iraqis died of? |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. bush is killing more civilians than saddam did. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
56. 30,000? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Yes 30,000. That is what the psychopath Bush admitted to on television |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
87. he also said iraq was an imminent threat and had wmd...nothing that fucker |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
86. 2 xmas's ago the number was at 100,000..2 years ago... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #86 |
105. That's my understand |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. WORSE THAN RUBBISH.ITS PURE UNAULTERATED BULLSHIT! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 05:56 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. Indeed |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
17. I agree. If it went on for hours, where was command? |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Great point... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. It won't. |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
44. MindPilot, you make a VERY good point by saying.................... |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Thanks, but Randi Roads deserves the credit for that quote |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
55. Good points. I think this is where the allegations of "cover up" |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
93. excuse me..we know about mai lai..we know about murder on the |
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silvertip (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
118. Accountable |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
18. Lidice |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
47. Lidice |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
19. Please stop trying to justify mass murder. And please be truthful. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
42. mass murder is mass murder regardless of the method. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. That air strikes also result in mass murder does not excuse this one. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. I didn't say it excused it; I said there's no difference. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. No, both would be murder. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
96. ahh no..i consider this entire war a lie and those who have died murdered! |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
111. I've Always Found |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
80. I knew some would disagree with me but I was also hoping some............. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #80 |
108. where was the fairness to a 3 yr old child shot point blank range?? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
28. "we are rightfully blaming some soldiers for snapping" - |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
45. Oh, but read some of the replies and you will see that................. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
43. They are murderers. Just because they went postal doesn't excuse them. |
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BooScout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
88. Your whole post is an excuse..... |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Excuses are one thing, exploring the gray areas are another nt |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
102. I've snapped before...who hasn't? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
120. can tell you are a libra. lol. got into thread too late. of course |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
121. By the same logic |
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AJ9000 (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
123. "...we need to keep in mind |
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