NEW 05/17/06 - 43 PAGE LIBBY FILING

[stop the bleeding]

I am not sure if anyone has seen this yet, but here you go. If anyone could provide a summary that would be awesome.

05/17/2006 Libby's Motion to Supplement the Record - 43 pages


All PDF filings are being stored here in the research forum.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x3589

[stepnw1f]

1. Oh Goody

drip, drip, drip... this is getting good.

[kpete]

2. oh my

my, my, my

Sorry, I am wiped out...

thats about all I am good for tonight.

43 more pages, oh my

my, my, my...

[stop the bleeding]

3. kpete - take the rest of the night off with pay

anyone who deserves it, is you, I think we all have had a rough couple of days.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

5. To refresh our memories re: "What I told the Grand Jury" story is:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/071705X.shtml

<snip>

"What I Told The Grand Jury"
By Matthew Cooper
Time Magazine

Monday 25 July 2005 Issue

The grand jury asked about one of the more interesting lines in that e-mail, in which I refer to my conversation with Rove as being on "double super secret background," a line that's raised a few eyebrows ever since it leaked into the public domain. I told the grand jury that the phrase is not a journalistic term of art but a reference to the film Animal House, in which John Belushi's wild Delta House fraternity is placed on "double secret probation." ("Super" was my own addition.) In fact, I told the grand jury, Rove told me the conversation was on "deep background." I explained to the grand jury that I take the term to mean that I can use the material but not quote it, and that I must keep the identity of my source confidential.

Rove went on to say that Wilson had not been sent to Niger by the director of the CIA and, I believe from my subsequent e-mails--although it's not in my notes--that Rove added that Dick Cheney didn't send him either. Indeed, the next day the Vice President's chief of staff, I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, told me Cheney had not been responsible for Wilson's mission.

Much of my grand jury session revolved around my notes and my e-mails. (Those e-mails and notes were given to the special counsel when Time Inc., over my objections, complied with a court order.) Owing to my typing, some words were a jumble. For instance, I wrote "don't get too war out on Wilson," when I clearly meant "far out." There were some words in my notes that I could not account for--at one point they read, "...notable..." I didn't know if that was Rove's word or mine, and one grand juror asked if it might mean "not able," as in "Wilson was not an able person." I said that was possible, but I just didn't recall that. The notes, and my subsequent e-mails, go on to indicate that Rove told me material was going to be declassified in the coming days that would cast doubt on Wilson's mission and his findings.

As for Wilson's wife, I told the grand jury I was certain that Rove never used her name and that, indeed, I did not learn her name until the following week, when I either saw it in Robert Novak's column or Googled her, I can't recall which. Rove did, however, clearly indicate that she worked at the "agency"--by that, I told the grand jury, I inferred that he obviously meant the CIA and not, say, the Environmental Protection Agency. Rove added that she worked on "WMD" (the abbreviation for weapons of mass destruction) issues and that she was responsible for sending Wilson. This was the first time I had heard anything about Wilson's wife. Rove never once indicated to me that she had any kind of covert status. I told the grand jury something else about my conversation with Rove. Although it's not reflected in my notes or subsequent e-mails, I have a distinct memory of Rove ending the call by saying, "I've already said too much." This could have meant he was worried about being indiscreet, or it could have meant he was late for a meeting or something else. I don't know, but that sign-off has been in my memory for two years.

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[DemReadingDU]

4. I need a spare brain to keep track of everything!

[Patsy Stone]

6. K&R

You're doing a good thing. :thumbsup: Thanks!

[bleever]

7. K&R for original source material, and those who read it.

And post it.

[stevedeshazer]

8. Who knew what before July 14, 2003?

This is what Libby's legal team is asking.

It's clear here that Scooter's lawyers are trying to show that it was common knowledge on or prior to 7/14/03 many people knew in Washington that Valerie Wilson was a CIA agent.

It's an attempt at further discovery, in short.

[originalpckelly]

9. Well after reading this filing it seems Mr. Libby is...

subpoenaing records to show that other people knew Mrs. Wilson worked for the CIA. It is actually interesting because they all might get off for leaking a covert agents name, but obviously Mr. Libby would not for his lying. Question is why he would lie to the grand jury if he didn't leak her name? They have this bit, and dare say I remember seeing it, with Tim Russert and Andrea Mitchell, and shes says she knew Mrs. Wilson worked for the CIA, but didn't know she was covert or worked on WMDs.

Maybe the ratfuckers didn't do anything wrong? Who knows.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

12. None of this will do anything to get Libby off the perjury hook.

[originalpckelly]

16. I agree...and I made sure to say that.(nt)

[Spazito]

10. In doing a quick scan back to some of the previous filings

they were asking for some documents beginning January 01, 2003 as seen in Libby's filing on 05 01, Exhibit A, which is a response from NBC to Baker Botts. I haven't gone any further to compare the others as to original dates specified in their subpoenas but, at least in the NBC instance, with the start date for the search being January 01, 2003, that original start date would already have encompassed the on or before July 14th date now being specified upon which NBC had already responded. I haven't gone back into the previous filings with the exception of the one I noted earlier in my post to see if they are narrowing their search only with regard to the date or if they have narrowed it to more specific documents than originally requested.

Seeing where Libby is not charged with outing Plame but, instead, charged with perjury and obstruction of justice, it will be interesting to see how this is handled.

Offhand, I'd see this is more kitchen sinks being requested.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

11. Judge Walton hasn't responded well to Libby's previous fishing trips.

[stop the bleeding]

13. Hey !!

I have been building this thread in the Research Forum just for this type of research.

There are several more filings from the Jan - Feb time frame. Let me know if you need some of those old Docs bumped up onto the list. I have been wanting to go back and get the older important ones, just havn't made the time to get them.

Also I can't wait to start a file on Rove

[Spazito]

14. I used your thread to find what I posted, it is INVALUABLE, imo

It was so great to just click on that thread and find key filings all in one place! As more and more filings become public, your thread will even more invaluable.

[stop the bleeding]

17. well let me know if there are some "missing" or gaps in dates that

you would like to have filled in. because as stated before there are several older filings that are not yet added to the Research Forum

[Spazito]

20. I will surely do that! I haven't done any 'homework' on the

earlier filings you already have in your thread so I am not sure what may be needed and not there from the older filings you have yet to add.

[myrna minx]

23. Your research threads are amazing.

Thank you so much for all of your work. :toast:

[lovuian]

15. Libby has forgotten much and tending to blame Rove

that interesting... but the basic thing I get out of this is its OBVIOUS HE's LYING and he was OUT for the Wilson's ... He can't explain why he lied he just did...

He's going to jail...

[H2O Man]

21. Correct.

To the exact extent that "people knew about Plame," it was because Rove et al had spread the word. Libby wants to distract from the charges against him. Sorry, Scooter: Rove is going to have to answer for his crimes, just as you will answer for yours.

[BR_Parkway]

22. Almost sounds like he's afraid Rove has cut a deal, the way they're trying

to push it all his way.

[Pithy Cherub]

24. Team Libby vs. Team Rove

is just a defense lawyers ever giving pool of funds. It will further drive a wedge in the White House as they have to decide which Team to back. Team Libby does have the biggest head start though...

Libby is further cementing Fitzgerald's position by showing his & Cheney's motive, intent and opportunity in more clarity every time he files one of these and Fitz responds.

:popcorn:

[stop the bleeding]

26. I like the way you think

pass the popcorn:popcorn:

[calimary]

28. Just watch. He'll probably try to pull a deathbed lee atwater.

And he'll suddenly see the light when he's dying of cancer or kidney failure or some such thing, in another 20 or 30 years, he'll call a few of the people he's screwed, whose reputations he's ruined, whose careers and futures he's destroyed, and make some last-minute apology like that'll make it all better. LONG after the damage has been done and there's no way to recover. THEN he'll start saying he's sorry, when he feels the Grim Reaper's cold breath on the back of his neck, and there's no more time to go out and make public amends like the 12-Step program says you need to do to make any such apology count for something. As we say around my house - "that and a dime will get you a few minutes in a parking meter." Somehow I can't see how apologies like that have any merit because their motivation is so disingenuous. But it isn't for me to decide. Probably a good thing, too...

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. Looks like Libby is on a fishing expidition

I'm sure Judge Walton is going to be trilled.

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. So Team Libby wants

Every document, from every reporter, from every major news outlet from 01/01/03?

Just to prove he didn't lie to a Grand Jury?

These guys are nuts.

[robertpaulsen]

25. Recommended, bookmarked, kicking this where it belongs.

Top o' the page, Ma!

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

[Peace Patriot]

27. The strategy they used to out Plame was to "seed" the info around town,

so that it would impossible to track it back to its source (the White House). That's what it looks like to me, and I think Libby is now "fishing" for those "seeds." It's quite interesting that his legal team keeps focusing on the main crime, not the ones he's charged with (perjury/obstruction). It's occurred to me that what may be going on with the Rove indictment is that Rove is fingering Libby on the main crime--possibly in fulfillment of an "Aspen" plan to have one fall guy, Libby--and Fitzgerald is again pausing over indictment of Rove*, wondering if a deal with Rove might be worth it. But his stated goal is to crack the case, because of grave national security implications--not to hang people on perjury. So, will he bite? Will he settle for a lateral fall guy, rather than the big honcho(s) who are too well protected?

So, THAT's what Libby's lawyers may be preparing for, with all these filings that pertain to the main crime, not to perjury/obstruction. They want early access to the "seeds" Libby, Miller and WHIG planted, to fuzz the issue. Fitz has shown no sign of falling for the "seeding" strategy. But that doesn't mean Libby's lawyers won't try to use it in Libby's defense; that's sure seems to be what they're after--the planted "seeds"--and it's a main crime issue.

And if they are already preparing the defense on the main crime, do they perhaps know that Rove has "squealed" (as per plan?)? They could just be trying to bog the case down with decades of litigation on news organizations' rights--or creating a false choice for the Supreme Court, between jailing Libby and the First Amendment. (...very Byzantine, but what isn't, these days?). But what stands out is this: Did Libby lie, or not? THAT is the question. Not all this stuff about who had the info (got "seeded" with the info) on Wilson's wife. It is possibly a side-issue defense on perjury. (See, jurors, there is no main crime here, so why jail this "public servant" for lying about nothing?) But I more and more think--especially with all this Rove indictment business--that they're expecting a charge against Libby on the main crime, and that may end up being why the Rove indictment hasn't come down yet (and maybe never will).

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*(This is the most likely explanation for why multiple Truthout/Leopold sources are convinced that Rove has been indicted--that Fitzgerald is holding a sealed indictment over Rove's head, and made a threat of imminent unsealing of it, that these sources picked up on; but Fitz may not be ready to play his hand yet, and certainly does not want another big perjury trial. It would mean they've blockaded him--they've SUCCEEDED in "throwing sand in the umpire's eyes," as he put it. He wants to crack the case, not be involved in endless Rovian and Libbyan lies.)