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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:31 PM Original message |
Kerry sang the right notes... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, Baer was a Lieberman adviser during the 04 campaign, so his judgement |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I hate that they need to |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Very interesting |
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fedupinBushcountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well, IMO |
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Island Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I have the same problem with Obama. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Okay, I'll take a stab at it. Meet Professor Obama (definitely not a preacher): |
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Island Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
58. Thanks, Beachmom. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I thought it was just me |
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MBS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
47. . . what you said. I totally agree n/t |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I agree Fed-up. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. I still support the senator |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. the Lieberman people are still bitter about the 2006 Primary |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
9. Well it starts, Everyone on the Obama bandwagon. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Who is the right choice who is actually running? Because if the |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. So be it. I am negative. And I don't see a real urgent need to win the White House |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Obama actually has a record and how about issues like abortion rights |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. A very thin record and his claim to have been against the war in Iraq |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. i'm sorry, but that's like people claiming Kerry was pro war because of IWR |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I have and it is. And Obama's opinion about the Iraq War and Senator Kerry's |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. so what Kerry says doesn't matter ? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Not in this matter. Kerry has to be a good Democrat. He has to support the party |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. i'm not talking about this matter, i'm talking about Kerry's IWR vote |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. No, I am saying that Obama's opinion's from the perspective of a safe haven in Ill |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. It WAS a risk. He was running for the U.S. Senate, and he chose |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Oh come on, he was running against Keyes the kook. I doubt anyone decided against |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. At that point, he was running against a number of other Democrats and the Republican was Ryan, who |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. I have been very candid in my disappointment in Obama's K/F vote |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The similarities come in the form of the type of campaign Obama is running |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #35 |
48. I think he means to, I do not know if he can |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. Obama never joined the DLC |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Kerry is mature and presidential- Obama is not IMO. He does good speeches and is great at photo-ops. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I will not get into healthcare. My opinions on how to fix it differ from all of our candidates. n/t |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Because he has better judgment!!! He got it right on Iraq when |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Padded and filled with attention getting titles and names. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. so you vote based on your gut over facts ? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Obama facts are nothing more than surface salt. I base my opinion |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. so you think Kerry had bad judgement when he picked him to give Keynote ? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. No, Obama gave a very moving speech, but that is all it was a speech. |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
49. and that's an important point, wisteria! |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. No, it won't. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Tay, I will support Senator Kerry's efforts to gain seats in the Senate. |
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fedupinBushcountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Wisteria |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. wisteria, I hope that the place will continue to be about Kerry, and I think Kerry was the subject |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. When Obama is faced with a real vote that matters as much as the IWR vote did, |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. We can't have Kerry and to many of us he is the measure we are now comparing everyone to |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. You suggest someone has influenced my opinions. You sell me short. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
45. Please stay... |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. Just finished reading it. Here is my take: |
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Democrafty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Very well stated! |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
55. Agree Beachmom. This sounds like an |
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ladym55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
63. I agree |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
46. and what does it matter if we win the Congress if the President vetoes |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. We will have enough votes to over ride the veto. n/t |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. That is just not true. You need 2/3rd majority to override a veto. |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. 67 votes in the Senate is nearly impossible to get. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. They don't need to read this forum to come up with bait, they have plenty to use |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. They do read this forum. Just like they used the Kerryblog against |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. I agree with you - wishing the Democrat to lose in hopes that Kerry could win in 2008 |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I never suggested that my opinion of Obama and my lack of support for other |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
59. Given the results, maybe Kerry had the notes and music better than Obama |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I was listening to the polls last week with a huge incredulity. |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #60 |
66. So why do you think that the polls were SO off? |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. That's what I was thinking. Kerry STEAMROLLED through the primaries. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I try not to let anyone tell me differently, but |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Really loved your last sentence :-) |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Thanks |
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MBS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:47 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. yes, I hope that the current crop of candidates and the media |
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Luftmensch067 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Quite right |
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