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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:02 PM Original message |
Obama and the Gay Community - Wariness |
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jackpan1260 (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. I will vote for Obama. |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Why? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Just because someone has a rainbow icon... |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Right...... but you didn't answer the Question.... |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #28 |
98. What if the earth careens into the sun? |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:04 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Reality |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. OK... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
96. Why so cynical? |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
94. Put up or shut up, Bobbie. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Correct link here: |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Thanks ...... |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. People think that Obama will be strong on LGBT issues because he has the same platform as the other |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. NObama for me. |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. WOW........ |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. that's how i see it. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Obama seems to think LGBT issues are some kind of argument between two communities. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I liken it to |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. well done. -- one of those ''i wish i could recommend your post''. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. This is one of the many things that makes Obama |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
95. "Thanks for the link"... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. set of basic rights |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. i know, huh? -- |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. It's like we will get the Fisher-Price version of rights |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Also, if we can't handle our rights, they can take them back. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. ... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. "cause we are all so busy gettin busy all the damn time." |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. they think more about our sex life than we do. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. heh |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. no dollars for JAY-ZUS in that description. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. well to be fair |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. lol -- well that the point, isn't it? |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Magical Powers of Mass Seduction |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. ok -- lemme check -- there is a fire station right down the street -- |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Thank Goodness......... |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. "Fisher-Price version of rights" |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Christ, that "basic rights" stuff sounds like the worst kind of patronizing bullshit. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. we may get stuff from him -- but eww -- the getting it |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. will there also be Government Funding |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. maddiejoan........... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. short answer? |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Those are Pragmatist Responses |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Personally, I think DADT and DOMA would have happened.... |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Snap |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. spot on -- the political reality of the time was |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. well -- i certainly assume he's not opposed to faith based funds, |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I'm thinking we'll be getting some appointments.... |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Doesn't Sound Much Different than |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. I'm not very fond of your use |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Neither am I |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. No |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. No ? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. makes me feel all |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I'm not going to set myself up for disappointment. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. i know, huh? -- pat those heteros on the back for having the decency |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
106. yeah the "us" and "them" shit says everything you need to know |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
40. obama has been the post disappointing politician to me. i cried when he gave the speech |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. I cried at his speech last night |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. at the dem convention he mentioned gays, which is what gave me hope |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. he hadn't decided |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. he hadn't decided that he was going to run on the hypocrisy platform |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. Are You Talking About Clinton or Obama ? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #70 |
87. obama. nt |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. You Need a Reality Check |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #49 |
97. Can't hang on to a three-year-old pander-bear statement anymore. |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. No Mention Indeed |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Hillary wasn't giving a speech on Unity |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. WOW |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Look |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Whatever |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Bye |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. LOL |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. okay |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Got It |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. where did I say that? |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. According to You? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Start with DADT and DOMA |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. How Convenient |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Gee |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Thank God I Don't See the World the Way You Do |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Never said Clinton wasn't flawed |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Tell Me Why You Think Clinton is Flawed on GLBT Issues |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. All three candidates |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Citation |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #90 |
102. okay |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Conversion Therapy |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Obama gave McClurkin a microphone |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Clinton |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #91 |
103. okay |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. His(her)story |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. was hrc giving a speech on different types of people? |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. When Did Diversity Become a "LIST" of People? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. BTW |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. And Still Not on the Front Page of Her Web Site |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I found it in 2 seconds |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Of Course You Did |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. Notice What You Did Not Comment On |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I don't comment |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Right........it's NEVER Actually the Clintons who Cause Their Troubles |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. okay. |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Your Sincerity |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. okay. |
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fightthegoodfightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. okay |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
93. Here's a Q for you |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #93 |
99. Because we want "special rights", not civil rights |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #93 |
101. That's a good question. |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #52 |
104. But even Obama doesn't think we are an "issue" |
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