Archaeologists: We Found Noah's Ark

[The Sushi Bandit]

http://channels.isp.netscape.com/whatsnew/default.jsp?story=20060630-0847


Exploring more than 13,000 feet high in the rugged Elburz mountain range northwest of Tehran, a team of archaeologists from Texas believe they have found the remains of Noah's Ark. "I can't imagine what it could be if it is not the Ark," Arch Bonnema of the Christian-based Bible Archaeology Search and Exploration (Base) Institute, told ABC News.

<edit.. they SO want to belive this..I feel sorry for them>

[Kutjara]

1. I agreee. The desperate longings of weak minds. n/t

[The Sushi Bandit]

3. I wonder what the "archeologists" credentials are?

Did any of their studies include deductive reasoning?

[Kutjara]

8. PhDs in wishful thinking.

Heavy on belief; light on reason.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

32. It's your mind that's weak, believing in a world billions of yrs old. 6014

that is the magic number - because it says so right there, in the only science text you will ever need.

Boy, these satanic worshiping devil-loving, pinko, unpatriotic, atheistic, librul, democrats must be stopped. Their lack of belief will turn away our god from our world and delay the rapture!

[TreasonousBastard]

2. They found it again? How many did Noah build?

[Bluebear]

6. Hey, kids! Collect the whole set!

;)

[Demit]

4. "I can't imagine what it could be if it is not the Ark"--LOL!

There's a crack scientific mind at work for you.

Luckily, as the article notes, "the team took some of the physical evidence to labs in Texas and Florida for scientific analysis." I can't wait to see what Texas & Florida come up with next.

[Kutjara]

9. That part cracked me up too.

By the same reasoning, I drive a Ferrari. Hey, it's got four wheels and an engine.

[rock]

38. I can't imagine what it could be if not a Ferrari

[Warren DeMontague]

12. To be fair, that's what I think every time I see piles of discolored rocks

I'm a busy, busy man.

[Demit]

15. I always think of a really bad sci-fi movie called "The Monolith Monsters"

When I was young and very hung over one Saturday morning, my roommate and I watched the absolutely worst movie ever made, worse than Planet 9, and was it hilarious. People being menaced by inanimate objects. You'd see a pile of rocks, then hear this kind of crackling, then the camera would zoom in on the reaction shots of the actors looking at something in horror, then the screen would go black. I can't remember now what made the rocks attack. Oh, for the days of bad B movies on Saturday mornings.

[Warren DeMontague]

47. I've had hangovers where I felt like inanimate objects were attacking me

so I can totally relate.

[beam me up scottie]

49. Did Joel, Tom Servo and Crow ever watch that one?

I don't remember seeing it.

[shain from kane]

21. Pieces of the cross? n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

5. Ah, yes, clearly you've made a very important find!

Wow. I'm convinced!

[Disturbed]

7. News Flash

Busholini will confirm this for TX and Jeb will do so for Florida.

[Kutjara]

10. What's your problem?

That looks exactly like a ship to me. Hell, you can even see the sun deck and breakfast lounge (on the left, next to the shuffleboard deck).

Godless heathens, can't even see what's in front of your eyes.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. Hell, I can see Leonardo DiCaprio stuck on the very front of that thing.

"I'm the king of the Woooooooooooooooooooorrrld!"

[ClintonTyree]

27. Right, and it's surely big enough to hold 2 of every..........

type of animal in the world plus their feed for forty days and forty nights! I mean, look at the SIZE of those dark rocks! There's no doubt in my mind now. First the Shroud of Turin and now THIS! I'm converting to christianity immediately....well, right after I rearrange my sock drawer.

These "scientists" had a predetermined outcome and just kept looking until they found something........anything, that remotely appears to support their already made up minds. Yep, that's solid scientific method alright! :silly:

Believing is SOOOO much easier than critical thinking, why not give it a try? :shrug: It's tiresome thinking all of the time, believing is where it's at my friends! Just think of all the spare time you'll have to praise god and george bush (who I believe are one in the same, you never see them together at the same time, do you?). :rofl:

[NMMNG]

13. Again?

:shrug:

[no_hypocrisy]

14. Tell me that they also found dinosaur bones on board & my head will

explode . . .

[The Backlash Cometh]

16. They find wood splinters and they're convinced it's Noah's Ark,

but they don't believe that dinosaur fossils mean that dinosaurs predate Adam and Eve?

[NMMNG]

17. Dinosaurs didn't predate Adam and Eve

They were created by God on the sixth day along with all of the other animals, as well as Adam and Eve.


The Bible tells us that God created all of the land animals on the sixth day of creation. As dinosaurs were land animals, they must have been made on this day, alongside Adam and Eve, who were also created on Day Six (Genesis 1:24-31).

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/2.asp

[The Backlash Cometh]

20. My mistake.

:eyes:

[NMMNG]

61. I posted that as a joke

I forgot to include the :sarcasm: smiley.


It's amazing how the fundies backpedal and try to add new scientific information to the Bible story to make it seem like the Bible explains it all. :eyes:

[Vogon_Glory]

31. Biblical Patriarchs, Sheep, and Velociraptors

I'm still waiting for the fundies to come up with bones of sheep or biblical patriarchs that have teeth marks matching those of velociraptors.

:eyes:

[NMMNG]

62. No doubt they'll find a velociraptor fossil on Noah's ark

Next time they find it, that is. :rofl:

[neebob]

57. No, they were already fossils when the world was created

because, in the Doctrine and Covenants or Pearl of Great Price - I can't remember which one of Joseph Smith's books of fantasies and I'm too lazy to hunt it down - it says something like, "Let us go and gather up ..." something to the effect that God and I don't know who else made the earth out of materials they found somewhere else. I mean it had to come from somewhere, right?

I have a snippet of a memory of my dad telling me this when I was 15ish, because I had asked about dinosaurs. He was really big on the idea of God having to operate by natural laws. And I was like, "Well, all righty then." I wouldn't have dared argue, even if I'd wanted to.

[Ready4Change]

74. No, they found rocks that, if you squint, look like wood.

And THAT convinced them they've found Noahs Ark.

[Ready4Change]

75. Omigod! A burnt looking rock outcropping!

I can't imagine what it could be, other than the final resting place of Amelia Earharts ill fated journey.

[DRoseDARs]

18. Wait, wait, wait. Petrified wood? Doesn't that contradict their world...

...or am I making too much sense?

[shain from kane]

25. How many cubits did they find? n/t

[SPKrazy]

39. No, That Was What I Was Thinking

I thought petrification took millions of years?

I don't know, but it's fossilization of wood, right?

[DainBramaged]

19. "I can't imagine what it could be if it is not the Ark,"

A fucking boat tossed by a tsunami? A hut that looks like a boat? God's joke on the fundies?

[Epiphany4z]

22. they find that thing

every other year. OOO looky a piece of wood...and it looks like it comes from a boat...oooo and it looks old!! it must be Noah's Ark!

[varkam]

23. IT'S A MIRACLE

That people actually believe this crapola.

[LiberalPartisan]

24. I wonder if they'll pack it up

And give it an honored place in the Creation Museum,
right next to the scene of Adam with his pet dinosaur.

[Mist]

26. Even it it is a bit of the ark, so what? Also, does wood last that long in

open air?

[xchrom]

28. i thought it was in turkey -- on mt arrarat{sp?}?

now it's in iran?

so what's that thing on the other mountain?

here's the sad part -- someone probably will find a big ship some place -- fundies will claim it's the ark -- interfereing with the reseach that will determine what it's true origins were.

[saltpoint]

29. They'll send a team up there to get a close look and on the side of the

boat will be a sign that says "Ron's Bait & Tackle."

[HysteryDiagnosis]

30. UFFO..... an unidentified formerly floating object....or so it

would seem.

[China_cat]

33. I do wish they'd quit losing that thing.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

34. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this...

Maybe they DID find the ark. But maybe Noah was just a tad "off" if you know what I mean, and heard voices...got as many animals as he could. Then it did rain and he floated away, thinking he was saving the world and had a great excuse to sleep with his daughters.

We all know there is no way he could have gotten all the animals of the world on the ark, but maybe he thought he did.

Personally I think it would make a great screenplay! And man, would it piss off the fundies!

[shain from kane]

35. Start writing. I'll buy a ticket. n/t

[Glorfindel]

36. Actually, it was Lot who "slept" with his daughters (at their instigation)

Noah just got drunk and naked, and had a bit of an embarrassing time with his sons. His curse against his grandson, Canaan, because Ham, Canaan's father, had seen HIS father (Noah) naked, was used as an excuse for racism for many, many years. Probably still is, for all I know.

[shain from kane]

37. They all slept with their daughters. And then, there was Adam and Steve.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

40. Well, it's good to know

how THAT got started, huh?

LOL

[Warren DeMontague]

48. I've got a great screenplay on the "Left Behind" Theme-

All those folks get zapped up to what they think is heaven, but is really just some kind of inter-dimensional timeshare sales pitch where they're stuck in a conference room with leisure suit-clad shoggothes trying to sell them space condos somewhere in the vicinity of Sirius B.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, everyone who isn't a whackjob religious right end of days fundamentalist discovers how much nicer it is with all those folks off somewhere else. Shit, yes, leave me behind!

[neebob]

60. I've had that thought about Noah before

and I had it again while looking at the supposed ark pics. Some of them do look a lot like wood. But then you have to ask where 13,000 feet of water went, and doesn't it take more than a few thousand years for wood to become petrified and for clams and other sea creatures to become fossilized, and how did one of them get inside of this supposed wood beam. Never mind how the two kangaroos, for example, made it all the way to Australia before reproducing.

[SPKrazy]

41. Well Whatever They Found

it's older than 6000 years!

it's petrified wood

it would be evidence of a fairly advanced society (based on petrification) to have built a ship millions of years ago.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

42. I thought they had already found it.

:rofl:

[Silent3]

43. Why do I get the feeling...

...that the same guys who would see this "evidence" and exclaim, "I can't imagine what it could be if it is not the Ark," would be the same guys who'll tell you evolution and global warming are "junk science"? :eyes:

[ladjf]

44. Get real. Sea level 13,000 ft more than present. People need to

stop wasting resources on this fairy tale.

[SPKrazy]

46. Giant Tsunami

LOL

[ChairmanAgnostic]

50. silly ladjf. Woe to Ye of little faith. With preyer, anything is possible

honestly. I hear that in the 700 club every day. It must be true. They wouldn't lie and ask for my money otherwise, would they?

[ladjf]

52. The evangelists have a great racket going. They can promise

anything without having to make good on their promises. They can pawn off any sort of crazy crap with no fear of being found out. The world is suffering an epidemic of religious lunacy. And the problem is that it can be lethal.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

54. can be? NO, it most certainly is.

Even worse, today's religious are being "played" and preyed upon by two groups: their leaders and our administration.

[ladjf]

55. Exactly. I just "watered down" my statement to avoid having my

post deleted. The human race has managed to survive the "epidemic" up until now. But, with lunatics from all religious sides gaining control of governments that have nukes, the "malady" has become far more dangerous.

[SPKrazy]

63. I Believe That Is True To Some Extent

really no different than it has probably always been unfortunately

Did Constantine really convert to Christianity because he "saw the light" so to speak? Or was it obvious that Christianity was popular and if he could control it, he could centralize his power better?

It's hard to say for sure, because Constantine did take care of the poor, and needy after he became a Christian. But the centralization of power of the Church made its leaders powerful, created the Catholic Church, and well, we know history from there.

Today's religious leaders in some denominations (I know you and others will argue that it is all of them, however I beg to differ) are also taking advantage of their flock. Take for example the poor who flock to fundamentalist churches where they are told to support the Republican party over wedge issues like abortion and now gay marriage. The majority of the people who vote Republican don't benefit financially from the party's policies, but their preacher told them to vote. The Republican party has taken great advantage of these wedge issues knowing that as long as they promote a "fix" for them, they will get their base riled up and they will vote. If they actually did something about abortion or gay marriage, they would lose their base, who may be easily manipulated but are not all totally stupid.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

64. unlike today's leaders.

[SPKrazy]

67. ?

I think I just pretty much agreed with you

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

45. I'm all for people promoting archeology

and other related sciences, but they need to keep an open mind as to what is discovered.

That being said, I think it is wise to look at world flooding myths, such as Gilgomesh (the Babylonian story upon which the Noah story is based), and then look to see what physical catastrophe might have inspired such myths. I believe some scientists have discovered ancient villages underwater yet near the shore of the Black Sea; there is some indication that some sort of siesmic action caused the sea level there to rise, perhaps giving rise to the Flood stories.

[The Sushi Bandit]

51. What if they really found the first....

"Hooters" restaruant?

[SPKrazy]

53. LOL

If it is anything

it is probably some kind of fortress, or religious building

[The Sushi Bandit]

56. pertified wood?

like dick c?

[SPKrazy]

59. Okay, Now I'm Going To Be Sick

just the image of dick c having wood

:puke:

[The Sushi Bandit]

65. LOL..

I dodnt envision that!!

[neebob]

58. I don't think they're really archaeologists

but a bunch of bored rich dudes who get believers to donate money to finance their adventures in trying to prove the Bible is true.

http://www.baseinstitute.org

<snip>

The Bible Archaeology, Search & Exploration (B.A.S.E.) Institute is dedicated to the quest for archaeological evidence to help validate to the world that the Bible is true, and that it represents an accurate, non-fictional account of God’s will to bring the people of this world back into relationship with Him.

BASE Institute fulfills its mission by engaging in activities of research, exploration & public education, to present credible archaeological information that is sound in scholarship, but also interesting and motivational to the general public.

<snip>

an article with more pics that I found by clicking on one of the links on the Netscape page

<snip>

Led by explorer, adventurer, and featured Worldview Weekend speaker Dr. Bob Cornuke, a fourteen man crew returned this week from Iran bearing stunning evidence that theirs is the long-anticipated even coveted discovery of the remains of Noah’s Ark. Bob’s team consisted of a Who’s Who of business, law, and ministry leaders including Barry Rand (former CEO of Avis), the author and Christian apologist Josh McDowell, Frank Turek (co-author with Norm Geisler of I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist), Boone Powell (former CEO of Baylor Medical Systems), and Arch Bonnema (president of Joshua Financial).

<snip>

Dr. Cornuke has used the Bible as his primary guidebook to one Biblical location and artifact after another. Has he once again overcome huge odds to make what is arguably one of the greatest archeological discoveries of all time? Has this crime-scene-investigator-turned-explorer pieced together clues from years of examination and discovered the remains of Noah’s Ark?

Some of America’s leading businessmen, an attorney who has argued several cases before the U.S. Supreme Court, and two leading apologists believed the evidence was compelling enough that they made a daring trip to the politically volatile state of Iran and climbed a harsh mountain to see the object firsthand. Now that they’ve returned, they seem anything but disappointed. Elvis may have long since left the building, but it looks as if the Ark may have just appeared at the door.

<snip>

[The Sushi Bandit]

66. I got an Ark in my back yard

they should come on over!

[SPKrazy]

68. But Is It As Big As An Aircraft Carrier

so the birds can take off from the deck?

[neebob]

69. You want a bunch of fundy businessman adventurers tearing up your yard?

[The Sushi Bandit]

72. God NO!

LOL

I'd use my shotgun!

[Rabrrrrrr]

70. Wow. "sound in scholarship, but also interesting and motivational"

Just... WOW.

sound in scholarship, but also interesting and motivational

Yep, that's science.

[varkam]

71. Yeah. Actual science is sometimes....

interesting and rarely motivational.

[SPKrazy]

73. Unless You Are Finding Arks At 13K Feet!

then well, it's got to be something!

LOL