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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:17 AM Original message |
Why do some atheists care so much as to who is Christian or isn't? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. To prove a point. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
2. Same reason Christians relentlessly define atheists |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Interesting that you define Christians and atheists |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Just my observation |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. I would think so, too |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. That's what I hoped, as well. nt |
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musical_soul (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
176. Why do they have to be adversaries? |
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afrosia (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
3. Religion is evil and needs to be stopped |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. But I know many people with no religion who are miserable |
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afrosia (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Vice versa |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Exactly n/t |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Hey, welcome to DU! |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
20. Welcome to DU |
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afrosia (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Apologies |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Welcome to DU! |
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afrosia (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Yes |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
61. Yeah, my church has an environmental action group, lots of out GLBT |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
47. That brush must be heavy - it's so wide. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
64. SOME religions, I think, to be fair. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
4. Why are some Christians so obsessed with what atheists think of them? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 12:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
62. Well, suppose someone were to say, "Smoogatz is a creep because s/he |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 08:22 AM Response to Reply #62 |
83. Uh huh, except that analagy does not stand, as name is not related to |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
5. For the same reason most people do this sort of thing |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
65. And those beliefs would be...? |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #65 |
84. I guess it would be whatever beliefs they have |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. I'M an atheist, and your words don't describe me. |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. You don't have any beliefs at all? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Of course I have beliefs, just not what you described. |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Well, everything is a process, even religion |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Sigh. You're not getting my meaning. |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. But see, to me science and atheism *is* a belief system |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Some dictionaries also define atheist as "immoral". |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. *sigh* |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. I don't think you need to apologize, I'm not offended. |
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Caution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
6. Try googling Hitler and Atheist some time |
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jojo54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
9. I don't really care who is Christian or not. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. That's a big question |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. Thinking Hitler is an atheist is simply a lack of historical knowledge |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:57 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. But consider |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
12. It's the HYPOCRISY, Grasshopper |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
13. It's the hypocrisy |
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afrosia (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Couldn't agree more |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. The Gospel of Supply Side Jesus |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
14. Because when we discussion religion with people |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Good answer |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
15. Because many of you can't admit there are bad christians |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
16. To underline the hypocricy of some people |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. I've known some real people in my time |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:52 AM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Raise above what divides us, yes. But... |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
17. Christians are the one who are |
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afrosia (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Of course. |
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John1956PA (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
21. Most atheists would welcome all Xians coming around to the atheist view, |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
22. Here's the thing |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
27. Actually it's the complete opposite. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Not exactly |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. As an atheist, I don't give a crap who is a Christian. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:55 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. So that you can't keep moving the goalposts. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 08:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
53. "anyone who says they are a Christian is one" |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 08:13 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Oh, no, don't take that standpoint |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. not sure where you're getting the slippery slope from |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 10:04 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Name a famous "bad-apple christian" |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. there are 2 billion Christians in the world today |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 11:07 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Hmmm |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. in practical terms, |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 08:02 AM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Wish I had a nickel for every time I've been through this. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. I wish you did too! |
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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. The godhatesfags guy is |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. "Some people who claim to be Christian are lying about it." |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Which is more reasonable to expect? |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. He never, EVER implied that none did, just that you do not now which |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 09:48 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. "he never implied..." it certainly seemed that way to me |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. He is saying, you do not know who is lying, and who is not. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. and I say I can |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Alright then, go ahead, tell us how you can without reading minds..... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
93. Please show me how you - and I - can do so. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Did this word from his post not show up on your monitor ?: |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. yes, I saw it |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #79 |
92. Basic logic - if something is possible, it CAN'T also be impossible. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
91. Thank you, RA. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Don't put words in my mouth. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
81. Well, Other Than Mind Reading, How Else Can You Tell |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. SPK, I'm glad to see you responding to this. |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
30. Because Hypocrisy sucks |
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afrosia (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
37. We win! |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Again, please realize you are talking about only one concept of God |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
42. maybe because those who espouse their |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. The Taliban and the Talibornagains |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Heh! |
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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 05:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. They keep doling out...death to |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
45. I think the negative effects of religion |
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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
48. The Hitler-Christian issue is about... |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. It's Also, Who Would Want To Claim Him! n/t |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 08:12 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. more fundamentally, Hitler was a Human Being. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
111. Who says he's an atheist? |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
49. I Think It's Just In The Air Or Something? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
51. We're worried about our christian brothers and sisters! |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
52. We aren't the ones with the obsession |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
63. So people like you can't get away with the NTS fallacy. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. GAH, typo. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
68. LOL!!! (scene from my play) |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #68 |
95. I sense lunch in your future. |
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CarbonDate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
73. I like to know who's going to try to kill me. |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
85. You're the one who cares, kwassa. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Sorry, but the only ones insisting they know the definition are atheists |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Bwahahahaha! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. It IS pretty funny to watch him flail. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #97 |
108. logic error |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #108 |
193. Keep telling yourself that. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #87 |
106. The errors in application of the No True Scotsman fallacy |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. ROFLMAO! Christians are used as examples in the DEFINITION of the fallacy! |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. You need to read the Wikipedia definition carefully, which you haven't |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Fascinating. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. You must spend much time looking in the mirror, I would think |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #116 |
125. That's it? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #125 |
141. You should be. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. Hitler was a christian and babies are atheists. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. This seems like a catechism for some atheists |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #149 |
156. Atheists don't have beliefs. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #156 |
160. Yeah, whatever, just a lot of IDEAS that seem identical. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. "Yeah, whatever" ??? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #161 |
163. Hey! Still waiting for your rebuttal on my analysis of No True Scotsman! |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #163 |
166. "No true christian would be a Nazi" = No True Scotsman fallacy. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #163 |
169. I counter your NTS Fallacy Fallacy with the NTS Fallacy Fallacy Fallacy! |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #169 |
172. Best write up of NTS ever! |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #172 |
179. Isn't it though? |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #179 |
184. I think you might be on to something |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:15 PM Response to Reply #184 |
185. I'll bring the Not True Hossenpfeffer ! |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. Aiiee! You better not let spotted elephant hear you say that. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #186 |
187. But I was thinking of her! |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #169 |
177. Cute, but he doesn't rebut my argument either. Nor have you. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #177 |
180. You really believe in your no "true Christian" fallacy, don't you kwassa? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 08:04 AM Response to Reply #180 |
190. I disagree, my belief is quite logical. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #190 |
194. If your beliefs are so logical, why won't you answer trotsky? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #113 |
173. Here's where your defense of the fallacy fails, kwassa. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:41 PM Response to Reply #173 |
181. Thank you, trotsky. |
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WoodrowFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 07:08 AM Response to Reply #109 |
188. Does the "No Scotsman" fallacy apply here? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #86 |
96. You're not a Christian, because you judge, and that's un-Christ-like. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 12:19 PM Response to Reply #96 |
107. Define "Christian" to your heart's content |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. "It seems that some atheists seek an absolutist definition" |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 04:15 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Some Christians use the same definition you do, many don't. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Many do. And you have no way of knowing who is lying about their beliefs. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Not true. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. So I Take It That There Is Some Crucible In Which You Boil It Down |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Deleted message |
SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 07:09 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. So Now I'm Not A Christian In Your Opinion? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 07:15 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Why would you think so? |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 07:19 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. That's Not What You Just Said |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. That is what I just said. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Your Response Didn't Seem Like a "Hypothetical" |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. Sorry, my manner is cut-and-dried sometimes |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #117 |
127. A diehard proponent of the No True Scotsman fallacy lecturing about logic? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Still waiting for your rebuttal on my analysis of No True Scotsman |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. What analysis? You are the posterboy for the NTS fallacy, kwassa. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Let's see if you can post a reasoned rebuttal |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. There's nothing to refute. You said you don't believe in the NTS fallacy. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 08:37 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. I've specifically refuted it, and you can't rebut, apparently. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Look into the mirror: |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 08:48 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. I'll post it for the third time, since you didn't get it the last two |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. I got it the first two times-It's just as ridiculous the third time around |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:08 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. I knew you couldn't refute it. You are defeated once again. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. Why that's just as brilliant as your statement about Nazis and christians. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Still waiting ........ no rebuttal from BMUS, of course |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:39 PM Response to Reply #145 |
151. As before, give me something to rebut and I'll comply. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Still waiting .... no rebuttal from BMUS |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #154 |
159. How does one rebut a personal belief? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #159 |
162. Still haven't rebutted the argument. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 10:01 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. There is no argument. There is the No True Scotsman fallacy and |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #159 |
164. Good night, I've had enough of your avoidance. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #164 |
168. Babies are atheists. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #168 |
178. Repeating falsehoods hundreds of times doesn't make them true |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #178 |
182. You mean like the No True Christian fallacy? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 08:14 AM Response to Reply #182 |
191. I disagree |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 08:40 AM Response to Reply #191 |
192. kwassa, please see post #173. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #191 |
195. Answer trotsky. |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #117 |
132. Your position seems innately hypocritical |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. "Innately hypocritical"? |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. So you just have no objective standards whatsoever? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. What in the world are you talking about? |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. Well then, can you enumerate your standards? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. I apologize, because I DID NOT judge Southpawkicker not ... |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. Behavior implies action |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:32 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. You are following the wrong tack |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. If no behavior is exclusive to Christians |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:39 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. I already said it. |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. So your standard for judging whether a person is a Christian or not |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. Yes |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:44 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. You agree with both those statements? n/t |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. You added the second after I responded to the first |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-11-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #158 |
167. How do you gage their honesty? n/t |
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CarbonDate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 04:34 AM Response to Reply #112 |
170. The Bible says: |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
171. Militant atheism is closely akin to fundamentalism. |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #171 |
174. What's "Militant Atheism"? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #174 |
175. Onward Atheist Soldiers, Marching off to War ..... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #174 |
183. The belief that no evidence for gods exists, god-dammit!!! |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 07:32 AM Response to Reply #174 |
189. Since no one has ever offered up a definition when I've asked... |
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