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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:43 PM Original message |
The Mormons Baptized Obama’s Dead Mother |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. why ? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. To get her into heaven, of course. nt |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Ummm, it's part of their religion. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. do they do it for everyone that died ? |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. everyone they can find |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. My guess is that they have done it for millions of people over the centuries. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. yeah, i don't have a problem with it really if that's the case |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. but was it HER religion!!! |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. but they aren't forcing her or Obama family to do anything |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. how can you convert a dead person? i don't get it. it is still disrespectful. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. maybe it's because i'm an atheist |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. i personally think these folks should concentrate on themselves instead of |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. It's just fucked-up Mormon voodoo. |
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lsewpershad (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. WHY? |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Does anyone know exactly what this "baptizing" entails? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. They dunk someone sort of pretending to be the dead person |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. no more idiotic than any other religious ritual |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. it's *baptism by proxy* |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. As I Understand It |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. it's difficult to find out -- the Mormons are VERY secretive about it. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. I think its the one |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. The important point is |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. This practice is so hugely disrespecetful. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. *If* there is such a place as heaven, and *if* they did my ancestors |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. It is disrespectful, but also hugely meaningless |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
52. I know it's meaningless. But I still think people's choices should |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. The bottom line is, make up your own religion |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
58. I just De-Baptised her. Made-up Church of Latter Day De-Baptisers. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. I've learned they baptized my Grandmother. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
12. Theres a debate over infant vs adult baptism |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. i know my kidsa aren't baptized. how can an infant decide what they believe!! |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
53. In my tradition, baptism is a way of including the child fully in the community, |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. Apparently It Was Part of the Apostolic Church |
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sasquatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. Sick fucks need to be driven from the country |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Apropos of nothing, is that Lemmy? (nm) |
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sasquatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Yes |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Dude |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. Wow - that's kind of creepy and presumptuous |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
15. Who complained when Obama became a member of the Crow Nation? n/t |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. When an adult does something of their own free will, who has cause to do so? (nm) |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. So, let Obama demand the Mormons de-baptize his mother. n/t |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. If you don't wish to complain, don't join the chorus (nm) |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Complain about what? It's Obama's personal problem whether to demand his mother be de-baptized. n/t |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
19. they sure have a lot of time on their hands - going after Prop 8, baptizing the dead - |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Seriously! |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
25. They have large computers and records, probably have everyone in the US's |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
31. Someone should start registering dead Mormons as avowed atheists. |
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TimesSquareCowboy (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
40. I've been making Mormons into Wiccans posthumously for years now. |
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santamargarita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
42. Well...did she put anything in the collection plate? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. They'll probably send a bill for a lifetime of tithing with interest. |
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targetpractice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
43. The still baptize Holocaust victims, despite a 1995 promise... |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
45. What did Obam's grand mother in Africa have to say about this? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
47. This is the site they use. |
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moroni (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. This is the link you can use to search for ancestors |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Thank you for this information. My daughter informed me today |
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moroni (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Minor Update |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
48. I'm an atheist but I hope they do it for me |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. "I'm busy and ask them to come back when I'm dead" |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. You think they wouldn't do that? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
56. I don't see any point to such ceremonies. But, really, so what? The Mormons do no one any material |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
57. Well, I was going to post that you can ask to opt out of the proxy baptism, but I just |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
59. : |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
61. No matter how much I try, I just can't give a shit. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
62. I'm not Mormon |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-11-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
65. Just to say, if the Mormons are right, they're doing these people a big favor. |
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