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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 05:26 PM Original message |
Evangelical / Fundamentalist Atheism as an ad hominem |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. It can't be an ad hominem because atheists aren't people n/t |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Eminently reasonable, as always |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Real Americans understand that politics isn't about nice rational argument: |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. The flaw in many people's thinking |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Very true. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. I can't stand the terms, myself. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
7. Likewise… |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 06:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. To quote the OP |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Well said. |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Having read many of Varkam's posts |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
82. Yes |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. “Both sides” is indicative of the problem. |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Sorry man |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Couple of things... |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. With respect Varkam |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. I see. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #50 |
84. Human and hypocritical? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 08:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
96. Excellent, objective analysis |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. But the "bashing" |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. It's frustrating isn't it, that someone can be so unaware of their own mind. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:56 AM Response to Reply #101 |
131. I can't see anyone being asked or told to "shut up". |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #131 |
133. I understand that |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #133 |
135. You "understand that" no one is saying "shut up" in text.... |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Where have |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #136 |
143. Here....the general spirit made flesh |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. Cool..some of those quotes are mine. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. I was asked for the evidence |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #96 |
122. Ah, figured you come around at some point. |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
11. I hate the fundamentalist non-fundamentalists. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
12. It is like calling a woman a "son of a bitch" |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
83. Total aside.... |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
14. How would one describe offensively dogmatic atheists? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. "Dogmatic atheist?" |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Yes there are Nihilist Atheists, Humanist Atheists. Both Gandhi and Stalin were Atheists. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. It's still a meaningless pejorative |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Jesus fuck I agree and you jump on me |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. But the term dogmatic atheist... |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
148. Then one could conceive of "assholery" as being the "dogma" |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
65. Gandhi was a Hindu: he wrote a still-available commentary on the Gita, and some of his devotional |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. He was also an Atheist - Hindus can be both |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. An Atheist With Gandhi |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. Did you even read that? |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Well, I hate to point this out, but... |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
15. What if they simply switch to the term "Agitprop Atheism"? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I prefer "Uppity" n/t |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. If you extract some consistent idea of... |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. LOL. Operatives on both sides catapulting divisiveness. |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Who are the operatives? |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. The un-tombstoned, the posting dead (of heart). |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. The Hollow Men |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Carry on, with a whimper, like it's the end of the world or something. |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. "Yet, rational think-tanks contrive to divide us" |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Know your enemy. Eminently rational. Devoid of heart. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. If this "heart" you speak of... |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I use the word heart to speak respectfully to both sides. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. There's a distinction to be made between irrational and non-rational |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. There are more distinctions: What I'd see. What you'd see. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Embracing the irrational... |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Thanks. |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
18. Atheism is a religion |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
27. Exactly. I couldn't have said it better myself |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
34. But I encounter more "fundamentalist" arguments from atheists in R/T than anywhere else in my life: |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Please help me understand |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I share your confusion |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I suspect that this will degenerate into a semantic argument |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. You demand definitions while whining you can't expect more than semantics? *snork* |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I did not demand, I politely requested. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. OK: You request definitions while whining you can't expect more than semantics? Still *snork* |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. And still no definition |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Riight! I can give a definition, then you can moan I'm playing semantic games. No thanks! Bye! |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. I told you: "I'm not going to argue about your definition," |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Again, you proved me right. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #80 |
94. . |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #64 |
85. working definition |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. If you say so. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Let me see... |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. That figures |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. My initial impulse |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. So, you can't define "fundamentalist" without context? |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. I don't think you need me |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Second thought…. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Well, at least you are making sense now. Sorta. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Yes, that is the way I use the term |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Umm... okay. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. My use of the term seems clear enough and corresponds to an actual phenomenon |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. As clear as is seems strange... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Playing innocent is disingenuous: you yourself regularly contribute to such threads, such as |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 06:55 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. What on earth does this have to do... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. You actually want me to read your post in context, instead of quoting it in isolation |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. All that's coming through is that you have an enormous chip on your shoulder... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. So my attempt to provide a coherent parsing of "fundamentalist atheist" (as |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Show me this "attempt to provide a coherent parsing"... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. My post #34 was completely clear |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Your post #34 is nothing more than a restatement of what's being disputed in this sub-thread. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Okay, you have convinced me further effort is entirely pointless. Well-played! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. You haven't even TRIED to clarify. That's the point. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Out of curiousity, which form is this alleged insistence of mine taking? |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Well, in that thread... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. I think I must renew my intention to avoid philosophical discussions, as a continuing source of |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. That seems a rather silly reason to abandon philosophical discussion. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Huh? |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
63. Are there atheists that insist that if you consider yourself a Christian... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
78. Hahah...I dare you to look up the phrase "True Christian" in the Search option. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I'd waste way too much time looking at Landover Baptist or similar stuff: |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
109. I've had this discussion with you before |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #109 |
123. You would (I think) set up two scarecrows and insist I choose between them -- your own decision |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. So you berate me |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Have a nice day |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #109 |
160. Except that your point doesn't fit |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
158. LOL |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
47. Yes absolutely. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
81. I always enjoy reading |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
95. As an atheist, I use "fundamentalist atheist" to distinguish myself ... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Oh the irony...... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #95 |
98. I think most people will take 'narrow-mindedness' and 'intolerance' |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Most of the time, if someone says they are objective, it means that they aren't. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. self delete, not worth it. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #95 |
103. "I don't hate black people..." |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Deleted sub-thread |
varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #95 |
128. Straw-man ahoy! |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
102. Of course it is an ad hominem. Fundamentalist christians IDENTIFY THEMSELVES as fundamentalist. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. You've confused concepts |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Lol....so now evangelical means something? Since when? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. A complete nonsense question |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. How is it incoherent? |
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heidler1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #102 |
156. Heres a suggestion: When called a fundie Atheist, ask. |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #156 |
159. "Fundie" = "fun loving" |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
111. Well, I hope you've learned your lesson, varkam |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. No doubt. It looks like it's time for our quarterly Religion forum flare up. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. The common thread is easy to spot --> |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Hehe....I just got an image of you with a brandishing a golden sword while riding a white horse. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. Thank god for people like you. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. We are the overlords, Goblinmonger. We must maintain control, |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. So in the realm of evil overlords |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #113 |
127. There is not a single question mark in the OP. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
115. "The terms are almost exclusively used by theists" |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Exactly who in this thread |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. A high school teacher by day, a anti-religious overlord by night. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. I could really get into this if it were true. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #115 |
126. I think that if you were to take a poll on DU... |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
124. Evangelical / Fundamentalist Atheism ?? |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. But we all know that there are fundamentalist atheists |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:59 AM Response to Reply #125 |
132. That is such tripe.... |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #132 |
137. The sources for my three definitions are as follows: |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #137 |
138. I got the sarcasm |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. Ooooo, can I join your horde? |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. You are sooooo in the horde. |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #138 |
141. Also, I bet your +5 Rod of Truncated Reasoning |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. +5? |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. Sorry, I'm a moron and did not see the sarcasm...My Bad..nt |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #137 |
150. Response to 125, 132, 137 |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #125 |
134. Yeah, most people are clearly missing the point of the thread |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #124 |
161. The argument is one that cannot be won , and will perpetuate itself for all time. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
145. "Strident, assertive, stubborn, or even assholery" -- do not describe an ontological position |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #145 |
149. Easy |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #149 |
151. What an utterly bizarre irony! |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. Your dichotomy is a bit better this time around. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #149 |
153. The ad hom free alternative? |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. Asshole is still obviously an ad hom... |
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heidler1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #153 |
165. Truncate Fundamentalist to Fundie then to Fun Loving Atheists would be nice. |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 07:19 AM Response to Reply #165 |
166. It's not fair to just say "Christians" |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #145 |
167. You are creating a false dilemma |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
154. There are people who proudly identify themselves as Fundamentalist Christians |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
157. Well, in general, I agree with you |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #157 |
169. Exactly. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
162. Wow! What a flamefest |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. I suspect that would depend strongly on which 'side' you are on |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. It is important to note that the OP did not mean to start a flamefest n/t |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #164 |
168. I didn't! I swear! |
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