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Pirate Smile
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:11 AM Original message |
Breaking: Obama draws line in the sand on public option in New Weekly Address(Plus New good CBO#'s) |
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John Q. Citizen
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. He wants to "Keep insurance companies honest?" That assumes they are honest now. But they are crooks |
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Divine Discontent
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Sat Jul-18-09 02:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I think this is Mr Obama's way of getting them to be screwn over by us, but still letting them think |
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John Q. Citizen
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. He took a lot of cash from them last election so I'm not so confident as you are that he |
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I don't see any proof that Obama is owned or feel he owes something to the insurance companies |
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John Q. Citizen
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. the fact that Obama is so afraid of the very idea of single payer that cut advocates out of the |
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. ABC hosted that talk |
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John Q. Citizen
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I'm refering to the White House Summit on health care., last March. I'm also referring |
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Obama said he doesn't want to take away people's current plans |
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Better Believe It
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. How about offering them the public plan as an option? |
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John Q. Citizen
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. He made a campaign promise to consider all ideas, regardless of ideology. He lied. |
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Political Heretic
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
69. Considering "all ideas" has always meant "everything from center to right" in modern US politics. |
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northernlights
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. No it does not, you are reading the letter instead of the spirit of the message |
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John Q. Citizen
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I'm not as certain of those assumptions as you are. I'm for single payer because we know it works |
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Rosa Luxemburg
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I'm for single payer |
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John Q. Citizen
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Single payer was introduced in the congress in 1945. So i don't expect it to happen overnight |
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Odin2005
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
65. You are being paranoid. |
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John Q. Citizen
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Sun Jul-19-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. i disagree. |
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Joe Bacon
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
31. The health insurance racketeers are parasites! |
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backscatter712
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
2. YES!!! |
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MannyGoldstein
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. I Hope You're Right, But... |
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Thrill
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Well fucking Congress has to do something |
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Hutzpa
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Sat Jul-18-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Debbie Downer n/t |
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MannyGoldstein
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Sorry, Just Managing Expectations |
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high density
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
27. It's also possible that aliens will come and give us free healthcare on their mothership |
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MannyGoldstein
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. No - It's Based On Actual Evidence |
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Baltoman991
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Sat Jul-18-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Same old Same old |
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Cha
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Sat Jul-18-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Because it feels good to |
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Political Heretic
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
70. Based on everything we've seen, I'd say it's likely. |
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HopeOverFear
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
4. AWESOME!!!! |
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FrenchieCat
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Sat Jul-18-09 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
7. Time to fight! |
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DarthDem
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Sat Jul-18-09 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. Sweet |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Sat Jul-18-09 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
9. Excellent! Now they need to get some ads out to counter all the negative ones out there. nt |
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ipaint
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Sat Jul-18-09 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
10. It was strongly suggested to the CBO's the numbers be positive |
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drm604
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Sat Jul-18-09 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
11. So all the recent media negativity was based on an incomplete CBO report? |
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SeeHopeWin
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Sat Jul-18-09 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
12. excellent... |
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Wednesdays
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Sat Jul-18-09 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
13. K&R |
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Beetwasher
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Sat Jul-18-09 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
15. OBAMA UNLEASHED!! Hot Damn! No More Dry Powder! Spending That Political Capital!!! |
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Kingofalldems
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Sat Jul-18-09 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
16. Fake Democrat(s) will not like this one bit. |
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karynnj
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
17. Very good news ... and great post |
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Better Believe It
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. President Obama's statement indicating you or your employer can choose the public option is false |
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karynnj
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I read that and I think it is a reasonable start |
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Better Believe It
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. How about a public option that employers and individuals can easily sign up for? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. We need campaign finance reform. This is probably the best deal the president could get |
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Better Believe It
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. You will learn to accept a lot less than the current House proposal |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. WOW!! You're condescending, aren't you? Obama cannot do this himself; it's the Congress |
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Better Believe It
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. So who won the 2008 elections? The Republicans? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Sun Jul-19-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
74. You're wrongly and rather naiively assume that all Dems are |
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ipaint
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Sat Jul-18-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I'm assuming your one of the 8 and half million folks |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Sun Jul-19-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
75. See my response above. Actually I work for the Feds so I am fortunate to |
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solstice
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
19. Lines in the sand are EASILY washed away. |
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Deleted message |
Better Believe It
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. We want the President to support a strong public option for everyone and without loopholes. |
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high density
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
24. This is the guy I voted for!!! |
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slipslidingaway
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Sat Jul-18-09 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
42. CBO link - not quite the final score... |
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Pirate Smile
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Sat Jul-18-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I saw the confusion re the press release, etc. and the Diaries on DK but I believe |
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slipslidingaway
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Sat Jul-18-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. The Kos link does not work for me and I scrolled through the diaries |
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slipslidingaway
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. The Kos diary was deleted n/t |
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ipaint
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Would it be that difficult to craft a plan |
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slipslidingaway
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Sat Jul-18-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. No, it would be easier to craft a plan that includes everybody... |
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HopeOverFear
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Sat Jul-18-09 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
43. See all the naysayers in this post talking shit? That means we're close. |
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Better Believe It
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Please present some information disputing the facts presented in the post: |
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HopeOverFear
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Sat Jul-18-09 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
44. HERE'S THE VIDEO |
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Shireling
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Sat Jul-18-09 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
55. It gives me hope. |
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MasonJar
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Sat Jul-18-09 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
57. If Obama signs any plan without a strong public option, I will work hard |
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bertman
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Sat Jul-18-09 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
58. Many thanks to all who have posted regarding the actual CONTENT of the reform bill. |
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Faryn Balyncd
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
59. But HR3200 turns the "public option" into a LOW INCOME plan with LIMITED physician participation.... |
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Eric J in MN
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. My interpretation is that people need to be at 4x-poverty-level or less.. |
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Faryn Balyncd
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Sun Jul-19-09 03:00 AM Response to Reply #61 |
72. Looks like you are correct. My apologies. |
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Political Heretic
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. I believe that is an incorrect reading of the bill. |
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Faryn Balyncd
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Sun Jul-19-09 02:58 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Looks like you are correct. |
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Eric J in MN
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
60. It's an optimistic reading of his remarks that he'll veto if there isn't a pubic option. |
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MindMatter
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
62. Obama is taking all the fun out of being a health insurance company |
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David Zephyr
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
63. I hope he means it. If he does, he will transform the country. |
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Odin2005
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
64. The Big Guns are out tonight! |
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Political Heretic
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
67. "insurance exchange" are waffle words. |
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