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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:11 AM
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**** Heads Up!: POTUS National Security Speech - Live! ****
Edited on Thu May-21-09 09:15 AM by Clio the Leo
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:12 AM
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1. Ditto...I'll have to wait until tonight to rewatch it. n/t
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:16 AM
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2. CNN link changed a bit, make sure you have the right one! NT
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:23 AM
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3. I'm pissed because I have to leave for work at 10:30
but if this delay is being done is hopes of Cheney's speech not being covered, I forgive him. Bush did it to Kerry often enough.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:28 AM
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4. POTUS up now! NT
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:34 AM
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5. Is anyone listening, can you guys tell me what's going on? n/t
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:35 AM
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6. He's kicking ass lol
he's coming out of the gate swinging!
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:36 AM
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8. he sure is!
:applause:
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:36 AM
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11. saying, "our government faced decision on fear rather than facts..."
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:35 AM
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7. He's talking about the values of our country and how we have to abide by
the constitution.
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:36 AM
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9. I don't like that he's doing this speech. I know it gives Cheney some satisfaction in thinking
he's under the Prez' skin
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:38 AM
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12. this speech was planned last week before Cheney
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:40 AM
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15. Cheney's was planned months ago I thought?
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:41 AM
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16. NO. George Steph on GMA spoke on this this morning.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:39 AM
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14. I "LOVE" this speech! It needs to be said! nt
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:44 AM
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18. I don't know how to feel about it. He hasn't called the GOP fear mongers and idiots
which I was really hoping for. He also isn't saying how he plans to close it.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:47 AM
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23. He just said "fear mongering"
he didn't say GOP though, but it was implied.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:36 AM
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10. David Corn is twittering about the Obama speech from Cheney event
...

I'm surrounded by AEIers mocking O as he speaks. They can't stand this. Elections do have consequences
less than 10 seconds ago from mobile web
when O says he wakesup each day thinking how to protect US, people behind me say, "yeah right."
3 minutes ago from mobile web
O starts speaking, the Cheneyites at AEI quiet down to listen. Will there be any mutterings or hissing
5 minutes ago from mobile web
John Bolton enters CheneyFest. He probably thinks Cheney's a wimp.
7 minutes ago from mobile web
other press people at CheneyFest: Tim Noah, Ross Dourhout.
12 minutes ago from mobile web
so Cheny is waiting until after O speaks. What else does Cheney have to do today?
14 minutes ago from mobile web
Maybe Cheney will address the on-screen Obama, thinking it's a video conference.
17 minutes ago from mobile web
Big scree, that is. We'll have something like a live split screen if Cheney speaks while CNN shows O's nat sec speech
19 minutes ago from mobile web

http://twitter.com/DavidCornDC
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:47 AM
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22. If this place isn't closed by the deadline, this speech might be the Prez' downfall
He's putting a lot of pressure on himself.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:00 AM
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27. self-delete
Edited on Thu May-21-09 10:01 AM by Blue_Roses
dupe
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:00 AM
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28. good grief...
you're just a little ray of sunshine this morning:eyes:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:01 AM
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30. Uh huh...
Thanks.
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:02 AM
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32. Am I lying? He's gonna be held to even a higher standard after this.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:10 AM
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33. The President has consistently argued that we should close Gitmo.
Today, he refuses to concede on that goal.

Soak that in for a moment before you jump to "what ifs"...

It's true that this will be a test of his "bully pulpit" skills...but this is by no means a single litmus test that will determine success or failure of his presidency.
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:15 AM
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37. All I said was he'll be held to a even higher standard now. They let Bush do what he wanted
This Prez wont have that luxury.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:22 AM
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43. I agree
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:38 AM
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13. He's smacking down - hard! - the previous admin! Love it! nt
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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:53 AM
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24. He's chewing gum and kicking ass...and he's all out of gum. =)
Everything he is saying about how Guantanamo was a problem left behind for him to fix is absolutely fucking true. Dont tell me Bush and Co. did not care if it was sustainable, or knew that that it would be a political hot potato to close.

Every decision the Bush admin made about "national security" was about domestic politics...It is fucking sad that we can't address that head on.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:43 AM
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17. okay, I'm not getting anything done this morning because I'm glued to this speech
it's very good:D
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:57 AM
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25. I know, I am trying to finish my last paper of the semester!!
Ugh... Glued to the TV
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:45 AM
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19. He's pissed at the "mess" of Gitmo
Steam coming out of the ears.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:46 AM
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20. He is MAD! lol
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:47 AM
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21. Yep, and I'll bet he's pissed at his party, too. nt
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:58 AM
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26. I want him to call Harry Reid and other dems w/o a backbone out.
That would be sweet. They betrayed him
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:00 AM
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29. OK, I loved the part about not being the only one sworn to uphold the constitution
That was a lil smackdown on the Senate and Congress.
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JSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:02 AM
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31. "I am not the only person in this city
who swore an oath to uphold the Constitution."

Freakin' awesome.
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:30 AM
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46. The manner in which he said it. U can tell he was pissed.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:13 AM
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34. HOT DAMN! he just KICKED the Media's ass!!!!
did ya'll see that shit???
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:15 AM
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38. He's kicking EVERYO)NE'S ass - Bushco, Congress, media. n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:16 AM
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39. POS media whore Jake Trapper twitters -
"second time POTUS bashes media...does he not read his clips? it's like Tom Hanks complaining abuot not enuff oscars"
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:13 AM
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35. This is why I support the President - because we agree on substantive issues.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:15 AM
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36. ...
:thumbsup:

me too!
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:16 AM
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40. He really laid it all out and answered many questions head on.
Lets see how Cheney can answer that.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:17 AM
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41. For those who watched, did Obama make any unscripted comments about the quashed terrorist plot in NY
?
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:20 AM
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42. Even old Pat gave him props for the speech. Wow. Cheney is on already
Edited on Thu May-21-09 10:20 AM by SamCooke
what a whore.
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Lorax7844 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:32 AM
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47. sorry to rain on the parade here
but everything he said about the rule of law is meaningless if he will not prosecute those who broke the law. The idea that if you are powerful enough, then the law does not apply is not good precedent.

I am fine with the military commission being altered to fit with the rule of law. Even Washington had military trials.

Now is the time to do your best to convince those around you of Cheney's war crimes, Cheney will get away scot free unless we the people are screaming for him to be prosecuted. Right now, 50% or so support investigations, that's not good enough 60+ must be screaming for Cheney to be prosecuted.


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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:24 AM
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44. QUESTION for those who watched it on CNN: Did it cut to commercial
during O's speech?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:29 AM
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45. Sonofabitch
I thought he was on after Cheney. I can't get a break :(
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:08 PM
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48. I got to hear most of it on my iPhone....
via my aol radio ap! and now I'm enjoying reading everyone's reactions during my lunch break! can't wait to get home and watch it because I'm sure it looked even better than it sounded! whoo hoo! go get 'em son!!!!
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