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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 07:42 AM Original message |
Open Letter to President Obama and Every Member of Congress From LT Dan Choi |
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lazer47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. It is sad and a mistake, but his plea will most likely fall on deaf ears |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I'm really hoping that's not the case. Maybe the other 59 |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I disagree. O seems to be working on it, but he's fighting Old Guard system. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. He doesn't have to fight anything, he's the Commander-In-Chief |
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damonm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Technically, you're 100% correct... |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. The House had a chance to act again, on the Military Readiness Act |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. Who has his back? |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Let's support President Obama's pledge to end DADT! |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. As soon as there's some action |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Let's support the President to help him keep his pledge. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. No |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. I'm in! |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Exacrlt! All good Democrats should support Pres. Obama on repeal of DADT! |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
5. showering |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Um...believe me, NONE of them are checking you out |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. I did gain a few pounds over the week end. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
61. It's always the unattractive people who make the most |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. ! |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. and what if that where true |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. You should pay more attention to your spelling lessons and |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. thanks for the copy edit |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
65. thanks for your help |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:29 AM Response to Reply #65 |
87. You're welcome |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I am a gay man who showers in an open bay shower ... |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. The main concern for gay women ( yes they do exist) is |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. ... |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
66. sheesh , at last some honesty. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. some "guidance" |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. These "fears" have been professionally rebutted but the rightwing passes this on |
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damonm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. And what is truly Ironic... |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Equally ironic, President Obama favors repeal of DADT. |
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damonm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. True, as well he should. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Your irony beats mine. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. so where is the obstacle? |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. The obstacle seems to be "fear" the orphaned lovechild of Republican rule. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. no offense intended to dogs, nor dog lovers |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. We should treat gay people at least as good as we treat critters! |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #36 |
93. who put forward that ideal? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
85. wow, really? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
67. i think you jumped to quick |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #67 |
91. oh |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. i dont think so |
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KitchenWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Believe me, he is just not that into you. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
68. Deleted sub-thread |
Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. I've thought the same thing. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Welcome to DU! Apparently President Obama does not think the same thing. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
70. the questino at hand |
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SacredCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Well, as a gay man.... |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
71. please try to address the question i asked |
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SacredCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #71 |
86. Did you not see the sarcasm tag? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. im not defending DADT |
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SacredCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. In all honesty, there's probably not one answer for all situations.... |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. i would mostly concur |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. There are an estimated 65, 000 gays in the military currently. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
72. the question at hand |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Why do straight guys have such an aversion to being "checked out" anyway? |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Lt. Choi was dismissed without a hint of any sexual harrassment at all! |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Exactly. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Lex, wouldn't a DU full of support for President Obama's pledge to end DADT be great? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
73. thanks for the first somewhat decent response |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. "why men and women aren't required to shower together?" |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. please explain in more detail. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Here is an expert opinion from 1993 on your question: |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
74. my question doesnt delve into sexual abuse |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. you think just because people are straight they aren't checking you out? |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Well, we haven't seen his pic. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
75. i dont usually shower with people |
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damonm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. The question to ask is this: |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
76. that is not all |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. When I was in training |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Thank you for your service to our country as a gay man and Marine, you served with honor |
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lazer47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Please Jezuus, save me, we might have been in the same shower |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
77. my question isnt about sex in the showers, but thats intresting. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
46. OMG! That gay homosexual man saw my peenyus! n/t |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Oh QC! You devil, all the lesbians are blushing |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
78. Deleted message |
mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
47. Hahahahahahaha |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
79. its a real question |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. There are already gays and lesbians serving in the military, showering in those open showers. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 10:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
81. im not afraid at all |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
6. K&R !! Kudos to Knights Out for leading the charge to overturn DADT |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. Rec'd~ and |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
11. Brave, brave guy. A sad K and R for a truly brave career ending move though. Sigh. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. The ONLY issue here is the loss of another well qualified military member |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
38. It's a beautiful letter |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
50. Can he take it to the Supreme Court? |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. No, the Supreme Court has refused several times to hear cases on DADT, which was declared |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
51. Why did he wait 10 years to come out and demand equal rights? |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Because of DADT? Perhaps he sees hope for some progress now. nt |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. President Obama said he wants to repeal DADT, maybe Lt. Choi had hope |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Because he didn't want to get thrown out. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. I thought DADT was the **LAW**. So we all had to follow it. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
84. Yes and of course enforcement of all laws is exactly precise |
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