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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:31 PM Original message |
Why did Obama give British PM, Gordon Brown, such a crappy gift? |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. OMG, Impeach!!! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. Who says it's a "crappy gift"? |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. What would you have given him? |
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Jackeens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. Donald Rumsfeld. |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. ... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
62. Holding a Bible and a cake the shape of a key, like he gave Saddam Hussein. nt |
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Flash Bazbo (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
77. They'd just regift him to France. Awwwkwaaarrrd! |
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Kool Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
116. Donald Rumsfeld??? |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
136. Alaska. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. All that gift-giving must be a real pain in the ass. Whose job is it to... |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I agree. |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. How were those gifts good? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. It's a first edition. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. First edition? Wow, that is pretty cool. nt |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. I'll bet whoever has that job makes VERY GOOD money. The CD's were a veddy poor choice. |
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Raven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. Nothing "crappy" about that gift. It must be a slow news day. |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. FFS! What garbage and who gives a shit? n/t |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. We are in a depression, wouldn't it look bad if we were giving away lots of |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. It doesn't have to be expensive, |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Maybe he doesn't like Brown? I don't. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Foxnews is my favorite newsource |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. woof! |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
109. Who gives a flying fuck...Brown should have bought the "gift"... |
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Island Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. We're kind of broke right now. |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
118. Hm. Makes sense to me. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. Pfft! Gordon Brown gave him some dust collecting trinkets and |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Exactly..it's all in the way you |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
86. That they can't use in England (DVD players are not compatible). |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. Not entirely true.. they have "regions" but that can be changed |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #97 |
112. I hope that at least they did that much. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. In terms of protocol it was in fact a snub- or amateur hour |
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Frank Booth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
44. Or else, maybe some people aren't so stuffy to realize that a set of DVDs |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. I guess you have to understand the British to get it |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
14. Thanks for reviving this issue now that the other threads were starting to disappear |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Never saw those threads, sorry. |
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Caretha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
79. with 4817 posts since Feb 2008 |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #79 |
106. No, not really. |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
17. *facepalm* |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
18. ... |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'm thinking it might be the ethical thing, that Barack did campaign on really. So hopefulllly> |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
20. This is petty.....as is Fox News. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Brown is a movie buff? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. The gift will convert him! |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. LOL |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. You'd probably find the Guardian's take more to your liking |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. that's interesting. thanks for posting that. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. It's eminently foreseeable that parts of the British press would make a stink |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. I should have noted your comment before posting mine below! |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #36 |
114. Another one of the replies: |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
90. No, he is not. |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
21. Should have given him Citibank... or Alabama. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. LOL |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
25. Yeah, lets waste lots of taxpayer money getting Gordon Brown of all people a fancy gift. |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
129. Amen. All the gifting and fancy dinners are a WASTE of taxpayer money and utterly silly. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. It's a psychological experiment |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
27. Perhaps he has other things to worry about? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. And Gordon Brown doesn't? |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Exactly ... Gordon Brown does ... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
35. I have no problem with that |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
42. It's the thought that counts |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
45. Damn, I was going to suggest the naval style flight jacket personalized. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
46. It's well known that Gordon Brown is a notorious re-gifter. |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
47. Well, let's hope that the DVDs were at least encoded to play |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Something tells me team Obama didn't think of that. |
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Sultana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Oh shit |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
51. How is this an issue? |
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Kdillard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Yes they are desperate to criticize but that is not surprising. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
52. I'll bet they were all American movies. American film is our own unique art form. |
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Anarcho-Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
53. it's a story contrived by RW elements both sides of the Atlantic |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 04:22 AM Response to Reply #53 |
122. Exactly! |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
54. In the general scheme of things this isn't that big of a deal....BUT.... |
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Sultana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Yea, it's looks very bad |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Obama's a little fucking busy |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. ..and the PM isn't? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 04:25 AM Response to Reply #59 |
123. Yes, I think he's too busy to make a big fuss about something like that |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. "...from a protocol standpoint it is a fucking disaster..." |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. Less disaster than simply crass and isipid |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. How do you know? Where is any official report that this is the case? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Get out of your American skin for a minute- and think about what reactions might be |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. "American skin"? Oh, please, don't take the silliness to another level to prove a BS point. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. You're a bright person- I think you can see what I mean |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Yes, all spin, all the time. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Travel |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. "Spin works in many ways- in many venues." At least you aknowledge your purpose. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Just saying |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:40 AM Response to Reply #60 |
117. I call BS on your BS...and btw why isn't anyone asking how the fuck the Sec of State.. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. Brown doesn't even keep many gifts he gets. He didn't keep Bush's gift to him. He donated it to |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
103. I agree |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
58. Clothes, I think they can keep. Other such mementos/gifts |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
61. Obama is the cool kid in school.. |
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Sultana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. i lol'd |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
111. That was funny. |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
63. Benny Hills funniest shows... |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
65. Well, he could have given him a teeshirt that said |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
67. Obama should have given him this |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
68. The Guardian is now saying the gifts sucked. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:58 AM Response to Reply #68 |
121. Most were Revolutionary War Movies...The Patriot, The Battle of Trenton |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
69. Suspect someone screwed up. |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
78. How about a cigarette lighter made from Paul Revere's lantern? |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
80. Because the USA is broke? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
84. As if we should even care. I hope the Browns are smarter than that, otherwise |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
107. Well said |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
85. Fox News??? Good Grief You're An Idiot |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
87. Because he's shopping garage sales to save on money for gifts? Works for me. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
88. The Brown gifts were thoughtful and classy. |
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MrsBrady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. sounds to me like they forgot and then |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Exactly, and the British press was not amused. |
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pot luck (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Okay, criticism of the DVDs I understand, but |
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MrsBrady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. they don't have racists in england, you know |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. I saw it too. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. The RW British Press was not amused. |
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MrsBrady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. I think it will be fine in the long run |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. I think that the staffers in charge of coming up with the gifts screwed up. |
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asphalt.jungle (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
113. ooohhh the Torygraph, Daily Heil and Murdoch's Times are upset |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:44 AM Response to Reply #91 |
119. I love the Anglocentrism in the Telegraph article: |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #119 |
134. Well yeah, they are The British Empire after all.............. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
96. Entire James Bond 007 Movie Collection on DVD? |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. Chuck Norris collection? n/t |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
98. Hopefully, Obama resigns by the end of the weekend. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
99. I'd take 25 classic DVDs over a bomber jacket any day. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #99 |
124. The flight jacket is VERY nice, especially for someone who lives in a dank climate. |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. LOL! |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. That's not the point. It was unique and personalized. nt |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. But it got the exact same reaction |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
102. You act like it was the Pauly Shore collection |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
104. Obama fucked up, but he has no time to be embarrassed over stupid shit liket this. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. If he's dealing with all the drama (which you're right about) as you suggest.. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
105. maybe those special better gifts are for when Obama visits Brown overseas |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
138. You have an interesting point. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
115. And we should care about this because .. ??? |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:52 AM Response to Original message |
120. I don't think he hass too much experience in gift giving....Omiyagis in Japanese |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
126. in hard economic times, re-gifting is sometimes the only way to gift. |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
128. Why did Brown give Obama such shitty gifts? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
131. "The prime minister's reaction to the DVD set is not known..." |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
132. Did Brown appear on USA TV during the visit? |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
133. What the fuck am I missing? Have US/Britain relations just gone down the toilet over this? |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. This is probably a very good sign that a protocol gaff is getting such play. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
135. Let me see if I can dredge up some outrage....working on it...working on it... |
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