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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 06:57 PM Original message |
Make whatever argument you want about what the DNC did, it just left a bad taste in my mouth |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Michigan and Florida democratic parties decided this not DNC big wigs. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. party officials? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Um, the votes CAST weren't a reflection of an actual primary. Because no real primary was held. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. I understand that you want to bully folks into accepting that opinion |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. There's no bullying--if all names aren't on the ballot, and all parties, INCLUDING |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. You can keep saying that over and over... but it doesn't make it any more true. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. LOL! What do you call a contest in which ALL candidates declare that the contest doesn't count, |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Exactly. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
117. how is it a primary when the contestants but for one take their names |
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Rene (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #117 |
143. That obne candidate who stayed ON the ballot cared about how Michigan voters would vote. |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #143 |
146. Oh, that's too funny |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
163. "Common sense" would be your best 'outside source' here. |
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Doityourself (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. Actually it's very valid.. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
112. Thank you for |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. The Representatives that the democrats elected in these states both worked out deal |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. 'Better' is open to interpretation. Maybe a 'unified' convention is preferable. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. Neither vote count reflected anything but how screwed up the state parties are. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. There was no campaign |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. What about the will of the voters who didn't vote in an election they |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I don't know how anyone can make a judgment on how folks who didn't cast a ballot would have voted |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. There was no real vote. Unless all names are on the ballot, and the |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Precisely why Mr. 23% took his name off the ballot to null & void the vote/nt |
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Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #32 |
164. .One might take a look at what is taking place in California |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. I believe the Obama campaign was urging their supporters to vote 'uncommitted' |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. The Obama campaign would have been best served by NONE of this counting, so your |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. It was just politics. 'Dirty tricks' is your own expression. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Both Obama and Hillary made political calculations. As usual, Obama is better at it. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. more bullying ('get over it') |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. The primary was an artificial construct. Any attempt to use the results solely for the |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Just because we manipulate votes already shouldn't be license for any old manupiulation |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #70 |
82. This is getting circular. The primary was not valid--all parties agree on that, all voters |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. It's simple, but horribly flawed. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Well, for what it's worth, I don't consider it a validation of the Michigan primary process, either. |
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Missouri Girl (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
121. I'm sick of the vote BS |
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Doityourself (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
47. You don't think there are those that would have voted if the circumstances were diff? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. maybe |
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Doityourself (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:39 PM Original message |
Yeah but the "maybe" also changes things too..don't you see.. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
104. Those non-voters who accepted the rules can go fuck themselves, apparently. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
148. The DNC is the only one to blame for people not voting. |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. I propose a 1/2 vote for the Dems in November /nt |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Repub delegates only get 1/2 vote from FLA, right? Why isn't THEIR party all torn apart? |
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cabbage08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. ducking for cover |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. I propose that you be kicked out of this place for saying that |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Ya want ta doubledown wiseguy? /nt |
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Doityourself (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
50. Bitter much? |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
69. Not counting votes is a pet peeve of mine. /nt |
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Doityourself (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. Okay..we all have them..lol |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #69 |
133. The Michigan Democratic Party... |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Of course it left a bad taste in your mouth, you're a die-hard Clintonite. |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Bullshit: Obama was polling at 23% 2 days before the MI primary /nt |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Seventy-nine percent of forty-five percent is what? |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Underperforming in the polls? Like CA -- up 13%, SC +23%, IN +8% ??????? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. You're talking about single outliers and I'm talking about broad trends and averages of all polls. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
46. link us up!!! |
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Doityourself (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. LOL..yeah let's use polls...lmao |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. I actually wrote an opinion on the manipulation by party insiders before I supported Clinton |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. You need to make an argument with credibility, first. |
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Doityourself (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
54. I'm such a fan. Love reading your posts. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
56. You assume my argument against the superdelegates is a nod to Clinton |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
88. Arguing for the expectations of voters in a flawed primary is just silly. |
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bain_sidhe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
120. I'm not. But I'm a Michigander, and it left a bad taste in my mouth too. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. WTF? Hillary didn't have the "fucking grace to show up" either--because |
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bain_sidhe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #124 |
130. I meant on the ballot |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Bizarre. I don't know why that would be interpreted as a slap in the face, when |
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bain_sidhe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. You're entitled to your own opinions and feelings... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #134 |
135. Well, seems like YOU have to deal with it--your state Dem Party |
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bain_sidhe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. I get that, and I'm fine with it. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #120 |
129. Were you pissed at Gore in 2000? |
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bain_sidhe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. Only a little, because I... |
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Yotun (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. It was only wrong in the sense it should never have happened, the states never counted. |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
12. Try Mouthwash |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
13. That "bad taste" would be the last door closing for Sen. Clinton. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. There were NO actual vote to REFLECT a damned thing |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. oh you tasted something sour, all right. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
17. At this point they aren't really delegates. They're just paper cut outs. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
20. Seating the delegates as is would have effectively put them out of business |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:06 PM Original message |
Can you honestly devise a way that any ruling would have left a "good" taste in everyone's mouths? |
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symbolman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
22. That bad taste in your mouth is called "Crow" |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
107. DAMN. |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
23. I don't agree. As the Clinton campaign has argued, |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
81. But, they took the extra step of deciding for these 'uncommitted' delegates |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
99. If I recall correctly, the Michigan ballot still had Kucinich & 1 or 2 other names on the ballot, |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #81 |
100. Michigan's delegation suggested that to the DNC. So it wasn't the DNC deciding. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
25. Bigtree shows his true Clinton-colors. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
60. can't just argue the point? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
94. Oh. You Had A Point? It seemed to me you are just spewing the talking points of divisiveness. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I understand that anything you disagree with is a 'talking point' |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. You are the one putting unity and unification in "quotes". I think you've exposed yourself |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. you're just being dishonest now. The quotes are my effort to respect your own interpretation |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Now you are either projecting or have no idea what you even represent. Take a look around |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. you are responsible for your own behavior |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
26. "Florida and Michigan did indeed break the DNC rules and without justification." |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
30. When the primary itself is fatally flawed, you cannot use it as a basis |
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BigAnth (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
31. Both states should have had NONE of their delegates seated.... |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
153. 100 % agree. Only reason MI and FL got anything is because they |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
33. They had to consider |
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Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
43. I got that bad taste too |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
44. FLA: results reflected votes. MI: no valid vote was held. |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
53. Let's be fair Bigtree |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. 'fair' would have been to interpret votes as cast, not interpreting non-votes |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. No, 'fair' would have been not recognizing the MI election at all. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. I actually agree that not recognizing the election in Michigan would have been more fair |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Well...I think they were looking for some middle ground here |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
59. They gave 2 states to Cinton that technically shoud have had no representation at all. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
61. Ya im sure it wont go well with these supposed democrats |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. I know you want to define those who take a different view than your own |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. Im done playing games bigtree Im 100 percent done. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
92. You're busy with a strawman argument against those who you believe won't support the nominee |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
63. Remember |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
64. The votes were placed on an uneven playing field to begin with. So counting them as they were |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
65. And I am glad that the DNC didn't cave to John and Debbie Dingell |
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Max_powers94 (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
68. Get a jolly rancher and move on. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. I do whatever I please. |
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Max_powers94 (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. OK |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
72. Bigtree, please have some respect for those of us who actually live in MI or FL. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. My disagreement isn't disrespect |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
95. But your vote is settled. Why are you so concerned with mine? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. what influence do I actually have in my opinion? next to none. Is that really the point? |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
74. The problem is Michigan... |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. A fair settlement to the MI non-election would have been |
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Higher Standard (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:57 AM Response to Reply #74 |
140. That's what mystifies me |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
78. There was no election in Michigan |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
80. It was a shame. The quest for phony 'unity' disgraced the DNC today. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
83. I suspect the bad taste in your mouth has more to do with this being over for HRC. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #83 |
105. It'll be a cold day in hell before you can credibly speak to my intentions or beliefs |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. DONE AND DONE. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. good for you |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
86. Were you guys boycotting DU? What flavor do you get from Hillary's actions? You guys |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. What is this 'unity' you represent? |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #93 |
115. Dear fellow Democrat; today is the first day I've used 'you guys' to mean you guys. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. you make me laugh with your personal attack |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
90. Your closing statement doesn't hold water Bigtree |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
102. Indeed - all those who didn't vote believing it wouldn't count have now been violated. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
108. The two primaries were the result of a deeply flawed process |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
111. Hey, bigtree? Didn't get your way? TOO FUCKING BAD. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. you seem lonely hanging out here with me |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Hey Bigtree, not sure if this will make you feel better but |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
113. I don't like vegatables, but they are essential! You should know better! |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
118. Don't we now need to move past these complaints and start concentrating on the fall election? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. show me where you have been 'concentrating on the fall election' |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. I'm not saying that I have necessarily started doing that yet. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #126 |
139. you can 'get on with things' anytime you want. |
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swishyfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
119. Your logic just baffles me... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
125. WHile I agree with what you say, |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
127. Looks like this "lady" has a bad taste too. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-31-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
128. bigtree, |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #128 |
141. The party could have recognized they are as much of a problem as the states who ignored their edicts |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #141 |
150. In retrospect, you are 100% correct. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
137. Obama gets the uncommitted votes. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
138. You sound like my mum only in the part of not counting the two states... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
142. Your side got treated more than fairly. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #142 |
144. well, my concerns are for the voters and the integrity of what this committe does |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #144 |
145. So would you like them to halve NH too? |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #144 |
147. The Platonic Ideal vs. Sausage Making |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #147 |
156. that's a pretty smart way to look at it all |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
149. This could not have been handled worse |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #149 |
159. I hear you |
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hokies4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
151. I'm sorry, did they not gift Hillary the nomination? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
152. Your extreme bias is showing. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #152 |
154. extreme bias? what a crock. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Do you think we don't pay attention? You're months of posting here gone unnoticed? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #155 |
157. you've been rude, presumptuous and biased throughout |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #157 |
158. And now you're the victim. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #158 |
161. no, you're just being a jerk |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #161 |
168. Read your own thread. I'm hardly alone in my opinion. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #168 |
171. there you go again with the cliquish nonsense. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #171 |
172. I made my point. You can have the last word. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #172 |
173. yeah. Buzz Clik says I'm a poopy pants |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
160. From what I have read from you, you seem to have identified your own value with that of Hillary's |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #160 |
166. you must not have 'read' far enough |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
162. You know what the DNC should have done? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #162 |
169. I heard comments from Obama supporters who were there to ensure their votes they cast were counted |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
165. It was a fair decision. Now, let's unite. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #165 |
167. I'm virtually there. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #167 |
170. An actual nomination? What a concept! How about months of primaries to determine the nominee. |
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