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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:08 PM Original message |
Hillary is so concerned that every vote is counted. WHERE WAS SHE IN '04 WHEN WE FOUGHT IN OH |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hillary does not care about OTHER Democrats getting elected. Just her. |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. She was nowhere to be found, I know I was all over Ohio for at least 3 months after Nov. 7, not a |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Thank God for Sen Barbara Boxer. It sure would have helped our case to get the Clintons |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. Yeah, thank God for her all right. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. bookmarking |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. They weren't electing HER |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. She's concerned that every vote be counted.....for Hillary. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. Where was she in 2000? |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. Why would they have counted then? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. where were a lot of people? -- it's bizarre the number of events |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. 1. Her buddy James Carville was directly involved (per Bob Woodward) 2. The Clintons |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. what the fuck? -- carville is an independent human being -- hillary isn't responsible |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. who would benefit from Carville providing this info the the * WH? Why would a Dem |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. carville answers for carville -- not clinton. nt |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
78. Carville has always been a Clinton loyalist |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Just like the republicans have always done to Bill. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. it's nutty is what it is. nt |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Do you have links to facts to back up your statement? Why not read Conyers & RFK Jrs |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. what the fuck is wrong with you -- do you have anything else |
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bigdarryl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. thats the question RandyRhodes has been asking also in fact where were the Clintons in 2000 .... |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. She was against worrying about disenfranchisement before she was for it |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. maybe the OH voters disenfranchised weren't "hard working" |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 06:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
73. Well they certainly were not the white ones, in OH a large percentage of the white ones vote R |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. Gore deliberately distanced himself from Clinton during |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. The clintons were the most prominent/powerful Dems in both 2000 and 2004. If they would have |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Could it be that you are comparing apples and oranges? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I received a letter from Howard Dean after hand writing one on this very subject. |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Well goodie goodie for you. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Actually Gov Dean's statement is good for the whole party. |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:08 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Hillary is becoming BEYOND tedious. |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:05 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Address the subject of the post without personal attack, |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:24 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. You're a laugh riot... HOW many people have you snarked on in this thread alone??? |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. I was trying to make some points here, |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:01 AM Response to Reply #46 |
62. There is no "sorting" needed and I am SICKENED |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:09 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Your outrage is noted. |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:14 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Um, so which one of your dozen snarky posts in this thread is the "fun" one??? |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:42 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I didn't claim that any of them were fun. n/t |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:00 AM Response to Reply #46 |
74. Oh but Hillary says it's just like Florida in 2000 a GE BTW and Zimbabwe!! |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
60. Glad to be seeing this come down the pike as a well recommended thread |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
77. ITA. The Clintons, and other powerful polliticians, who get their power.... |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Randy has turned into nothing more than a screaming hater. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. Might as well blame Hillary for Hurricane Katrina while you are at it. |
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bigdarryl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. The point is if she talks all this bullshit about voters being disrespected and all votes should ... |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Actually GORE WON! and here is what the DLC said about it: |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. Where was she before March of 2008 to "protect the voters"? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
20. BTW bush ended up ahead in OH by 118,000 and Provisional votes are concentrated in urban areas. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. That assumes most of the 250,000 provisional votes were valid. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Perhaps you should READ JOHN CONYERS & House Judiciary's "Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Even with 75% turnout in Cuyahoga (there was only 68% turnout)... |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The provisional ballots were concentrated in 6 urban Ohio counties (out of 88) |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Yes, but there still weren't enough votes in those counties to put him over the top. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. You should read the House Judiciary Report as well as RFK Jr's: |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. I've read that article. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Kinda like Hillary and the remaining Primary races, no? |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Show me where Conyers blames the Clintons anywhere in |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I never said Conyers blamed Clinton. I said massive disenfranchisement occurred in 2000 & '04 |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. She is allowed to speak now, just as she was allowed to |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. You make my point perfectly-thank you. |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. You do not get to twist my words for your own hateful purposes. |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:07 AM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Yes, house-hunting and defending shady pardons.... SO important. |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:06 AM Response to Reply #63 |
71. Oh, another word twister. n/t |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
24. Is there also a reference in Woodward's book to a phone call from HC to Edwards? nt |
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Jerseycountryman (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
25. Good point |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Getting ready to fun for the Senate, right? nt |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
28. She was busy preparing for her '08 run (which is why Carville was so quick to "concede" he was wrong |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
29. Excellent question you posed, mod mom. |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. So the outgoing President was supposed to |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
38. Where was she when Bush was making the case for war? |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
44. Senators Clinton and Boxer, Representative Tubbs Jones...to Unveil Major Election Reform Bill |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Will Pitt's "Conyers to Object to Ohio Electors, Requests Senate Allies" 12/30/04: |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. So could any number of other Democratic Senators. |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:03 AM Response to Reply #56 |
75. Clinton is suddenly concerned about votes that she was against before she needed them, does make her |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Thank you. This deserves a separate thread. n/t |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
52. I'm still trying to figure out where she gets off not counting caucus states. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
58. At home laughing and plotting this year's debacle. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
61. If she ain't runnin', she ain't interested! |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:41 AM Response to Original message |
67. that coincides with the connection Penn Black |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
69. The BS of the Clinton position should become very clear after |
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