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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:46 AM Original message |
IS Clinton really more electable than Obama? |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. The HRC-Hivebots like to play the victim, but their queen did have all the advantages. |
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Laura PourMeADrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. what EVERYONE forgets -- Half the people in the country |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Well, I think it stated that half the country viewed her negatively. I think that is still the case |
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Laura PourMeADrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. Yes, it did. I looked it up - Zogby 11-07 |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. That would be the same Zogby that had BO up 13+ points in CA before its primary. |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
33. Clinton had a lot of early voters already wrapped up |
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Bright Eyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. She never was *more* electable, even several months ago. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
4. GOP not mad for McCain. NOTHING will GOTV for GOP like Hillary as DEM nominee |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
5. No, just contemptable. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
7. Ask the voters, the disagree with you |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Polls go up and down. Going by the voting rules, though, Clinton has lost. nt |
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nvme (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. better untested |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
8. HRC is MOST capable of winning the GE. BO has NO CHANCE........ |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. If Hillary was electable, she would be beating Barack, which she is not. |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. YOU have disenfranchised Florida and Michigan voters just like YOUR candidate. |
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nvme (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Disenfranchisement LOL |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. A bit of a speed bump on the electability argument |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. HRC's path to the White House:: Hot air and fuzzy math. |
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I think the argument that Obama can't win the big states is silly |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. He didn't lose by much in those big Dem. states. But when HRC lost, she lost big. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Your facts are wrong. Oregon is a swing state. PA isn't, really. She lost the nomination... |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. The good part is that you can start packing early! |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
11. I never thought that, even before Obama declared |
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rock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
14. I would previously have said "yes" |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
15. Rasmussen Markets data gives Sen. Obama a 62.0% chance of winning the White House in November |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
19. When you win a net +200 delegates from low-turnout caucuses.. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Wasn't she stupid not to compete there? What lousy campaign advice she got |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
32. That has to be the election blunder for the ages.... nt |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. The key word is "strategery." The map has changed...helllo! Anyone home? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. No, but when your strategists are too stupid to put any resources into those caucuses |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
20. Just my Republican husband |
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atufal1c (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
22. More electable? Well, not long ago we thought she was more NOMINATABLE. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
28. More electable? Who knows......? |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Do this when nobody is watching you.....I won't tell... |
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rndmprsn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
30. K&R |
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nvme (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
31. Lets dispel the Bill Clinton Myth |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
34. Not a chance. That's why the Repubs were already pushing her as our nominee 2 years ago. nm |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
37. Both are among the most unelectable candidates we could have put up. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-26-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I think the guy in your avatar was the best chance of winning |
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