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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:34 PM Original message |
OR RESULTS: So much for the myth that White Working Class voters don't like Obama or his race... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. GOOD! |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. It is not just white working class.... but white working class Rush listeners. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Don't forget, Operation Chaos targeted Reagan Dems. Folks who've been organized for years to destroy |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. No one responded to my Kentucky analysis downthread. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. Obama won Salem (Marion County) 53% |
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blitzen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I grew up in Salem....You're right, this is an encouraging result. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. bump... please read my (important!) analysis of WV/KY blowout below. |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. I've been saying |
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blitzen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. I agree with you...but to describe Bend as "middle of the desert" is a bit off the mark... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. when I visited 10 years ago it had a reputation as a Republican golf resort |
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blitzen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. the golf resort is Sunriver....The real story lately there is Downtown Bend.... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Axe Men were at the Rhody Parade |
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vixengrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. I think if Obama can get some labor leaders |
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Frank Booth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. He's got 46% in Lake County too, which is nothing but working class white. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. Radical Libertarian turf: Ron Paul got 17% in Douglas south of Eugene, 21% Wallowa near Idaho |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I do love the Pacific Northwest. |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
15. kentucky |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
27. bump == see my detailed (DISTURBING) analysis of Kentucky in subthread below |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:33 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. bump |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
16. Don't believe it's a cultural/geographic issue? Obama got 15% or less in only 8 of 55 WV counties |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. If someone could draw a map showing this, I'd appreciate it. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Could someone highlight the counties in red where Obama got 15% or less in Kentucky? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Note that all but two of the Appalachian Coal Counties that went over 15% for Obama were ragged edge |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. More evidence of my contention (also shows how the most anti-Obama counties voted for Kerry): |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Very striking numbers - thanks for posting these. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Three Maps side by side (I still need a corresponding Obama by 15% or less map) |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Analysis: Boone Logan & Mingo counties are 3 of only 7 to vote Kerry and 3 of the only 7 O under 15% |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. How can Clinton and her fake populist friends spin these numbers? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Three of the other 7 Obama 15% or less WVa cos. are directly adjacent to Boone-Logan-Mingo MTR area. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Also note that not a single KY county voted Huckabee, although neither Clinton and Huckabee can win |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
31. Its BS. Wisconsin and VA proved he could win those voters |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Appalachian whites are voting distincly different than anyone else, including Jim Crow conservatives |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
32. A few thoughts from Central Kentucky |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. The thing is, as a German/Scots-Irish extraction, I grew up in a city but feel right at home |
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blue panther (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
33. Oregon is only one state |
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PM7nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Except for... |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
34. virginia is more progressive than appalachia |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
37. Wonderful! Now Obama supporters can shut up about working white people... |
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PM7nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Maybe Clinton supporters can shut up about how working white people... |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. That can be an Obama supporter's self fulfilling prophecy if they continue to say "Fuck Them!" |
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