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oldpol (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:24 PM Original message |
MSNBC: Racism Alarms Obama Backers |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. The Obama campaign doesnt want to bring it to the forefront, but the media has failed here. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The Obama campaign CAN'T bring it to the forefront. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Black folks aren't allowed to talk about racism. White folks just call them oversensitive racists. |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
78. Yeah. They are accused of playing the |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
79. How soon before the words "race card" are heard?! |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
94. Hear here |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why is this such a shock to people? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. So you're saying we should have stuck with a white guy? nt |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. More like, this is what we signed up for. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
50. ITA. It's a reality we have to deal with. n/t |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
75. I agree |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
54. Someone said that in order for a black guy to win they had to be perfect.... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
82. That was from an episode of House. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
85. A black guy has to be twice as good, intelligent, and pristine to even be considered |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
99. Obama And Working Class Whites: The Myth |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. boy the comments below that abcnews blog article from people who are supposed to be Democrats.. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. They probably just didn't expect it to be as prevalent |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. only b/c he is a public figure |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. They do here. (nt) |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
42. b/c they know they'll get called on it and their post will |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. They hide it in public. |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
55. I don't think that a lot of full-fledged racists would be hanging out on Dem Underground. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. You missed post 48? |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
100. When I've been in Indiana and Pennsylvania (west not Phila) |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. yeah, Pat's a good example of the 'iceberg-tip' type racist. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. We can't let racism dictate our choices. |
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oldpol (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. sounds to me like most of the worst stuff was confined to Indiana |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. White folks thought they had successfully blockaded all talk of racism. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. "I'd rather the Dems win this election." Yep. White guy or defeat. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. That's why Obama's win in November is going to be so significant. |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. exactly - we and the campaign need to learn from this |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
70. well said |
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panAmerican (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
84. And this is exactly why Clinton on the ticket is anathema to what Obama represents. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. No one really wants to talk about this ugly and dark side to America. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. This election will be so good for America- The cancer of racism will be exposed |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
11. As far as the sign burning goes.. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
13. But sexism is ok? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Any stories like this from Hillary's supporters? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. You know, it's not a Who-is-more-oppressed contest, OzarkDem. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. Then lets not use a double standard |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I am outraged at all forms of discrimination. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Then lets practice what we preach |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. How about let's you get off your ass and do something about it! |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Obama supporters are such a poor example |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Yeah, what with our....whaddyacall it? Oh yeah, grassroots activism. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
89. .if it was up to hillary foster would`t be my rep today |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Unfortunately, she can't help them even if she wanted to. |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
102. I associate myself with the intersection of race and gender POV |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Thank you. That is so very well put. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Why aren't you addressing the article? It's not about sexism vs. racism. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. She's using a distraction so that she doesn't have to. |
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Heather MC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. we are discussing an article written about the experiences of the Obama volunteers.. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
62. If there were such an article |
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Heather MC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Clinton supporters are free to contribute as long as they acknowledge their candidate dangerously.. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. They won't. They will defend it to the end. Cognitive dissonance of the most extreme kind. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
95. touche, Heather |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
18. Obama doesn't really identify with discrimnated-against blacks. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I take it he said as much? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Obama is a discriminated-against black. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. So now he's not black enough again? |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. How in the world could you possibly know this? Please explain yourself. n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. It's always fun to watch white folks talk about how not-black black people are. |
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cyndensco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
52. In all fairness, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. So he's back to non-black. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. I can;t believe you are saying this. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
67. You know all of Obama's life experiences |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
77. It's impossible to shelter a child who does not have |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
98. Sheltered? Really? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
24. One day, god willing, it'll alarm Clinton backers. |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. It does alarm them. But on DU, they're busy defending themselves because... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Then it's ironic that by choosing the "nothing" side, they open themselves up to the criticism. lol! |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Again, I don't think the criticism is fair. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. It's only the same thing if Obama campaigned specifically on that... |
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oldpol (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. maybe this will stop the Big Dog from giving divisive stump speeches |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I'll be curious to see how/whether the Clitnons ever even attempt to make up with.... |
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oldpol (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. i wonder how much people are paying attention to the behind the scenes |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. That's the thing! It's not the Clinton's fault that some people are racist. |
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cyndensco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. I so agree with you. |
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shaniqua6392 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
29. That is so horrible. |
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dtotire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
31. I Hope These People Are A Small Minority n/t |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
36. Good. Racism exists and we should be alarmed by it. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
56. I completely agree with you. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
73. . |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
87. I saw the Rascal scooter chase last night! |
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graycem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
71. Indeed we should not! |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
49. Serious question for the Hillbots.... Do you really WANT the vote of some sheep fucking inbred |
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oldpol (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. "Hang that darky from a tree!" :( |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
58. This election is for America's future. |
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Cosmocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. YEP ... |
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goletian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
65. luckily, overt racists who actually vote are a small minority. |
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DeschutesRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
69. It is hard for me to believe |
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oldpol (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. i think a lot of it is stupid small town teens with too much time on their hands |
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DeschutesRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. I'm a lifelong Oregonian |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
74. the best thing about Obama winning |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
80. They kept their racism on the QT until they realized he may win. |
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oldpol (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. we may see a lot more suprises from the Fox News types going ballistic before the election |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #80 |
91. yup...i noticed that also... |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
83. And yet the HIlltards around here say that there is no racism and that we're just a bunch of sexist. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. They'd have some credibility if they'd denounce the behavior in the article. |
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michaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
88. Racism should "alarm" every person in this country! |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
90. i am not shocked, but i am disappointed. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
96. i really think this campaign |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
97. I'm confused. Is he electable or not? |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-14-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #97 |
104. We want Senator Obama to be our next president |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-14-08 05:52 AM Response to Reply #97 |
105. It is both-Obama is ELECTABLE and will not get the racist vote |
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