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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:48 PM Original message |
FACTS PLEASE: So is the Kantor tape doctored or not? |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well the director of the original documentary 'War Room" |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I know nothing. |
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Mezzo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:58 PM Original message |
Yes. this is a doctored version of the DVD "The War Room" where they first said |
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Mezzo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. self delete. My post posted twice. sorry. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Those are gonna be some busy lawyers. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. They only need the person who |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. He later said that the subtitles could have been incorrect while |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. YOU keep saying "audio expert"... |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Its not doctored....as far as we know |
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techtrainer (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Adding sub-titles and changing the sound is doctoring! |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Looping 30 second sound bites out of context is doctoring |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. That is completely different and you know it |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Blaming Clinton or Obama by what other people say |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. That I agree with |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I never said it didn't suck |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Well please Link me to the original video |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I agree with you on that |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Take care....see you back on Monday |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. Common sense is ruining all of our fun. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. How do you know? Did you upload it? |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's Definitely Edited, Doctored... I Don't Know... |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. It was doctored as in it is was freeze framed and had text inserted into it. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. Part yes, part no |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. why he has to whipser his slurs if they were not? |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. exactly...why is he whispering if he didn't say a slur... |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. Both. |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
11. I dont believe it is doctored... |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. the director is sure it was doctored |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. doctored, how? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I don't know |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Maybe the Director is Biased |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. that's not the part that was doctored |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. I don't believe any of it was doctored....just poor quality |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Glad you don't think being called shit matters |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I have nothing against you, DearAbby |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Perhaps so Enrique...I am leaving this to |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. I guess it's up to the media and the attorneys, now. n/t |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
12. Can't someone just get the DVD of the movie and turn the volume up and figure it out? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. i watched the original version without subs |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. There are two distinctly different videos |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Got it. Brown word, yes. N-word, no. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Actually, it's "N-word, maybe". |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I stand corrected. |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
19. C'mon. Get off this already. No more threads about this garbage. /nt |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
68. Not gonna happen. nt |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
21. The Guy That Put It On YouTube Pulled It |
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shaniqua6392 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
59. Kantor already said he will find the best libel attorneys |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
22. . |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
31. I think I'm going to be Switzerland on this one. |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
32. Good opportunity to bring up Fox news doctoring of Michelle Obama's |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
35. I'm no longer talking about it. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Better comparison is Rathergate |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
38. I couldn't hear any difference between the versions |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
41. You're looking for truth in GD:P???? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
47. NOT DOCTORED: YOUTUBE PUT THE VIDEO BACK UP (LINK) |
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mystieus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. True. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. That means NOTHING. |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
48. As Hillary would say, "Let the voters decide" |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Truth, Schmooth |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
53. I don't care. It's distracting bs. n/t |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
55. Oh goodie, I get to post it again.......The director of the original movie/documentary has spoken: |
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gcomeau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
57. Not doctored, definitely editted. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Yes doctored. I am looking it at on my screen right now - see below. |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
60. The bombshell "enhanced audio" version with the racial slur was a blatant fabrication |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
61. YES, IT IS, AND I HAVE PROOF |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I'll bite. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Don't know, didn't think about it. |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. self delete |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. What about the reference to the people of Indiana? |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Be more specific, please. |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. This |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. I have no idea/ Those people' might refer to many groups, not just voters. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. In other words, he didn't say those things no matter what, right? |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. Correct. He did not use the racial epithet. I am 100% sure of this. |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. I'd like to see a comparison to the original |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Please see the visual example below |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Shouldn't you be looking at the original? |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I don't have a copy of the original. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. thank you |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Here is visual proof (large image) |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
78. I am going to put this in its own thread with the pic. Please discuss there |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
72. Wow, did you get lost on the way to a place where reasonable people go? nt. |
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JanErikFl (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
73. Shut the Fuck up Obama maniac!! Official Transcript: Kantor Never Impugned Hoosiers |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. STFU? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. It's the scandinavian charm, just like here. |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. You there, |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Because Obama has promised to obliterate Norway and steal their oil. |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. How Do You Say ***hole In Swedish? |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #73 |
87. Your "Official Transcript" GLOSSES Over The Part In Question! |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
88. And a big welcome to DU to you, too. |
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frickaline (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
85. I believe everything that was ever posted on YouTube !!11!!!1!shiftone! |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. My butt was doctored, BTW |
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frickaline (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. nooOooOoOooOoooooooooooOo |
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