Absolute PROOF that Media is Propping up Clinton - MSNBC states FACT Hil raised 10 Mil in 18 hours!

[symbolman]

Here is a link to a recording I just snagged from MSNBC - and my JAW DROPPED at the absolute, baldfaced LIE that was just broadcast with no other reason but to PROP up CLINTON and keep this farce on the march, ostensibly to keep those Advertising dollars ROLLING IN, or to assist the RIGHT in damaging the Democratic party.

In this MP3 you'll hear the Host of MSNBC LIVE, a Mere 18 hours after the polls closed in Penn, state AS FACT that Hillary's Campaign win "HAS Translated into BIG BUCKS!!" That they've taken in TEN MILLION DOLLARS Since the Polls CLOSED. They are breathless, and right they should be, as this is UNPRECENDENTED (as she says) and I believe to be flatly Impossible... Corporate whoring at it's worst, cloaked in a nice breezy story..

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/clinton10millie.mp3

THIS IS AN ABOMINATION, there is no other way to perceive this but as blatant propaganda.

Not only is she touting a DOUBLE DIGIT LEAD, which as far as I understand is ALSO NOT TRUE, but along with Mark Murray (Deputy Political Director) they SLEAZE their way through SHEER PROPAGANDA that SUPPORTS Clinton's doomed campaign.



Listen to how they schmooze and slime their way around the money and push the campaign.

Clinton is Finished, and this farce needs to end.. WRITE to MSNBC and TELL them that they've have got to STOP spreading this propganda, that this Mark Murray needs to STAY OFF THE TV and stop MOVING the goal posts as evidenced in this MP3.

Totally irresponsible and way below the standards that MSNBC has seemed to be following, a step above CNN, and with Keith for whom I have tremendous respect.

PASS this MP3 to everyone you know, it is absolute PROOF that the MEDIA is propping up Clinton and TRYING to Change the RULES, convince folks that it's a VIABLE OPTION. Tell RANDI, let MALLOY know, send this around to everyone you can, KOS, MEDIAMATTERS, Etc - and let's all contact MSNBC:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339/

We get enough people passing this around we can send it to Keith Olbermann and tell him to report that his OWN STATION is propping up a fraudulent campaign.

Of course directly after this they ran the NC Obama BASHING piece, while excusing McCain, and THANKING the head of the Repig Party on the show!!

Please keep this kicked and Rec'd so people get a good look at how the Media is Propping up this doomed campaign DIRECTLY and Let's get this GARBAGE OFF THE AIR!

[anonymous171]

1. They want that lucrative Brokered Convention.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

33. Ding ding ding! You got it.

First Democratic convention in history that will be on the TVs in sports bars if it goes brokered.

[Cha]

38. I don't care what the m$$$fm want..

they need to be held accountable and this shit has been going on long enough.

The mediawhores got us bush, bombing Iraq, and more terrorists and our Country needs to tune them out.

And, now they're pushing the vile hilrlying on us.

[symbolman]

56. It is time to go after them at this point

its too damn blatant, past the point of anything other that what I believe now to be ELECTION TAMPERING.

Anyone know a good liberal lawyer that wants to get famous for going after the media?

I'll bet there's a case here, and CBS, etc LOVE to report on OTHER cable shows being sued..

We need to form an action alliance and go after these guys.

[Cha]

60. I would think they're some in the

Obama Camp or strong Obama supporters who are thinking directly along these lines, symbolman.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

102. Its another double digit lie - Clinton "received $8.3 million... in 20 hours"

Another Double Digit Lie

If you will recall, the Clinton campaign claimed to have raised $10 million right after her PA victory. That too was a lie.

Clinton, Obama camps spin madly on the day after primary Apr 24, 2008 06:22 PM

...Peter Daou, Clinton's Internet director, said the campaign received $8.3 million in Web donations in the roughly 20 hours after Clinton's Pennsylvania win. He said about 85,000 people, 70,000 of them new donors, made donations. The campaign invited the donations with a splash page declaring "Keep the Momentum Going. Contribute $5 below."

No telling how much of that can be used for the primary.

[helderheid]

52. winner winner chicken dinner

[flpoljunkie]

2. I do believe he was told they were "on track to raise $10 million dollars." Interesting phraseology

[symbolman]

5. Oh Yeah!

And RIGHT AFTER she states as FACT that Clinton's win has translated into BIG BUCKS! and oh, did her eyes shine as she works those words.. :)

[bhikkhu]

29. If "on track" is a synonym for "we are hoping" and "its possible"

then the whole thing becomes blatant and unverifiable spin. I don't believe any verifiable disclosure besides the FEC report will be available, and that lacks the detail to know for sure. And so we will hear about that 10 mil over and over and over....evidence?

[Nederland]

61. On track?

Yeah, and after that $35.25 capital gain I made on eTrade yesterday I'm "on track" to become a multi-millionaire.

[GoesTo11]

67. On track means $1M in the first 2 hours, which would work out to $10M in 20 hours

When I was 15 I was on track to be 10 feet tall by the time I was 30, growing 2 inches a year.

[nebula]

3. What do you expect?

The MSM wants "Bomb Bomb Iran" to win in November,
which is what will happen if Hillary is his opponent in the GE.

[jonnyra]

97. Sorry to have to say this

but with the media in control and the polls so close the republicans will steal another one. Why in the fuck do we think that the same dirty tricks, the same rigged voting machines, the same lies and smears wont work on Obama or hillary or whoever runs on the dem side? Why do some seem to think that this election will somehow be different? That this year the fascists will decide to play nice? I hate to say it but Im convinced we are all going to be just as shocked this November as we were in 2000 and 2004 when fascist elements stole the elections. This election WILL BE NO DIFFERENT.

This bullshit is not about networks hoping to cash in on a democratic convention showdown...its about right wing control of the message, the constant spewing of fascist propaganda and maintaining control at all costs. Thats what this is about and that is why the republicans will be in the white house come January 2009. Watch and be amazed.

[LSparkle]

4. It's maddening to me that they STILL shade Texas for HRC ...

when she actually ended up LOSING that state.

[ShortnFiery]

44. Believe it or not CNN has TX striped dark and light blue. Perhaps John King is an honest journalist?

:shrug:

[ellacott]

85. I like John King

He does seem to be an honest journalist.

[indimuse]

6. Hillary Raises 10MM Since PA Victory .

indimuse (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:06 PM
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45. BREAKING!!! Hillary Raises 10MM Since PA Victory
indimuse (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 04:55 PM
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Hillary Raises 10MM Since PA Victory


Hillary Raises 10MM Since PA Victory

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:59:59 PM EST
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Via Kos and Todd Beeton:

On MSNBC a few minutes ago Terry McCauliffe announced the Hillary Clinton campaign raised $10 million online "with 50,000 brand new donors" since the polls closed in Pennsylvania last night. "The biggest day we've ever had." An impressive amount by any measure and, as I wrote last night, a clear sign that people do not want this primary to be over.

PROOF!




Yes she WILL!



Obama BIG FAIL!!!

[JackORoses]

10. McCauliffe said that they were on target to raise that much

He did not say that it had already been raised.

Of course, Hillarites care nothing for facts, only appearances.

[symbolman]

12. McCauliffe is one of the biggest creeps in the universe

when I was at the Boston Dem convention he was inches from me, I was right behind him at the AAR booth hanging with Janeane and Randi - the impulse to punch that fuck in the back of the head was overwhelming :)

Sorry, I know that's in bad taste :)

SLEAZE..

[Leftist Agitator]

25. "Of course, Hillarites care nothing for facts, only appearances."

Hence their ardent support for one of the phoniest, most dishonest people I've ever seen, Hillary Clinton.

[symbolman]

11. You might try listening to the mp3

this is a FRAUDULENT STORY, a BIG FREAKING LIE, yet another by CLINTON. Does the Media CALL her on this?

No, they REPORT IT AS FACT.

THIS is who YOU want for President? When The Cackler tells you that your house is NOT going to be foreclosed upon because the Money is going to be here in 24 hours and then tells you that it's actually "in progress, targeted.."

SHE is going to run the economy?

It's not healthy to live in a fantasy world.

[yourguide]

17. CLINTON HAS ALREADY FAILED! SHE CANNOT WIN!

And the money is another lie lie lie...

[BlooInBloo]

22. And the lies continue.

[redqueen]

30. Shocking, isn't it?

:sarcasm:

[sandnsea]

7. Oh, it's a "target", lol

So if they raised a million in the hour after the polls closed, they could pretend that mean they would raise a million for every hour for 24 hours and call it a "target".

God I'm so sick of them. Why do people want to live in a cess pool with that kind of a sleazy leader. I just do not understand what people are thinking.

[FrenchieCat]

8. They are corporate shills, and corporation have never met a Clinton

it didn't like when it comes right down to it.

Folks supporting Hillary remind me of "good Germans" who believe that they are doing what is right for this country, when in reality, they are part of the problem.

[zulchzulu]

9. They are ON TARGET to raise $4,000,000,000,000,000,000

That's right! Four Septdecillion Dollars Baby! On...ahem...target!

:crazy:

[symbolman]

14. Thought that was a Googillion :)

Good call..

HEY, where are all the Clintonites here to defend this?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

80. can we google those numbers?

In every season, spin, spin, spin,

[baldguy]

84. She might even have a chance to tie Obama

If only we had 72 more primaries over the next 30 months

[Swamp Rat]

13. Another lie: 10% win

@ 5:15 pm EST: 9,219 out of 9,264 Districts (99.51%) Reporting Statewide

CLINTON, HILLARY .......... 1,238,232..........54.6%
OBAMA, BARACK ............. 1,030,703..........45.4%

Hillary won (so far) by 9.2%.

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us

[symbolman]

15. Good to see you pal!

Why don't they just round it up to 200% and get it over with.. :)

[Swamp Rat]

18. Great! Then Dennis Kucinich would win! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

Great to see you. Thanks for what you did (re: Edwards campaign). :pals: I wish he and Dennis were still in the race.... since it looks like Hillary will take it to the Convention. x(

[Generic Other]

90. Hey good to see both of you

Seems like much of the old DU crowd stumps for Obama. I have only recently thrown my support in his direction. Waiting now for a HRC supporter to throw me under the bus!

;-)

[The Doctor.]

20. Don't you GET IT?!?

I was watching the ticker last night, and It was always a difference of either 6%, 8%, or 10%.

That meant that 8.2% = 10%. So naturally 9.2% = 240,000%.

Geez SW... learn some math!

[Swamp Rat]

26. The Hillary% >= 10%

Thanks for learnin' me.

Now I have hope that I will pass my stats final! :bounce:

[AZ Criminal JD]

66. Obamabots celebrating she only won by 9.2% instead of 10%. Classic.

[Swamp Rat]

69. LOL!

Y'all crack me up! :rofl:

[symbolman]

71. So, she's got those coffers all filled up then?

got that big ten million in the bag?

Yeah, 9.2 as opposed to 10% is no biggie, considering she got a whole 14 delegates while he's a 150+ ahead of her, so far that she can't possibly catch up or win without cheating...

[AZ Criminal JD]

101. Obama is finding out money can't buy votes.

He thought that "street money" he used to hand out on election day in Chicago would work everywhere.

[high density]

16. It's up to $10 million?

It was $2.5 million.

I just got an email from Obama's campaign saying it was $3.5 million

Now we're up to $10 million??? LOL-- I don't buy that in the least.

[symbolman]

24. Listen to the MP3

it's stated as FACT right from the start, and that is what pissed me off more than anything..

Obama campaign needs to know this and spread this around, FALSIFYING NUMBERS, when Clinton wants to run the ECONOMY?

This is a good hammer point!

[EFerrari]

19. The sleeze! The SLEEZE!

In itself, some kind of vote suppression because it's just too nauseating to be around.

[BlooInBloo]

21. Yup - Clinton supporters don't mind lying about EVERYTHING...

The Clinton supporter lie:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/23/1437/29488

On MSNBC a few minutes ago Terry McCauliffe announced the Hillary Clinton campaign raised $10 million online "with 50,000 brand new donors" since the polls closed in Pennsylvania last night. "The biggest day we've ever had." An impressive amount by any measure and, as I wrote last night, a clear sign that people do not want this primary to be over.

The truth:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a_3hzhPjhrgs&refer=home

As of 10:30 a.m., Clinton had raised $3.5 million, 80 percent of which came from new donors, spokesman Mo Elleithee said, calling it ``our best fundraising night ever.''

The Clinton supporter lie:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/23/113754/921

After last night's decisive victory in Pennsylvania, more people have voted for Hillary than any other candidate, including Sen. Obama.

The truth:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/23/131539/929/684/501732

So see what they have done -- the Clinton campaign and Jerome have taken the roughly 215,000 net votes Clinton gained in Pennsylvania, and added them to the popular vote count that includes the unsanctioned contests in Michigan and Florida, and excludes caucuses in four states. How's that for inclusiveness?

It gets worse. That Michigan vote estimate? Obama wasn't on the ballot. If you count the "uncommitted" votes for Obama -- all of them anti-Hillary votes, remember -- that would add 237,762 votes to Obama's total.

Which means that in Clinton and Jerome's world, Clinton is ahead in the popular vote only IF you exclude four caucus states, IF you include two unsanctioned states, and IF you "disenfranchise" every voter in Michigan who voted against Hillary Clinton.

That takes a new and particularly audacious level of chutzpah.

EDIT: Forgot a few linkies.

[Rageneau]

23. A suggestion for Obama backers: Hold your breath till you turn blue and stomp your feet.

Maybe if you completely give yourself over to childish tantrums, it will drain off some of your hate, bitterness, vitriol and fear of Hillary.

I've seen more paranoia about HRC than I did when the Ruskies had LIVE, MUCLEAR missles aimed at us.

[symbolman]

27. IS this a LIE

or NOT?

Straight answer.

[redqueen]

28. Paranoia? This is not paranoia - it is disgust.

Her campaign lies, she lies, her supporters lie... I guess they didn't waste time during these years under the Bush administration... they've been busy studying the tactics so they can use them now.

[haymakeragain]

31. That post made no sense, could you repost it?

In english.

[symbolman]

32. I think that when she bombs Iran

she's going to use MUCLEAR Nissles... :)

[ej510]

37. They said 3.5 million on kgo radio in dan francisco.

[demobabe]

45. That sounds more probable.

So if she raises 3.5 million, and then kicks in her own money to make up the 10 million, then she would definitely be "on target." Although that would be smoke and mirrors...

[mrreowwr_kittty]

36. THE RUSSKIES DID TOO HAVE MUCLEAR MISSELS AIMED AT US!!!11!!

Why do you hate America? You are dead to me, haymakeragain.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

34. Yeah, like that time we were all in front of the studios banging pots and pans...oh wait...

That wasn't us.

:eyes:

[stillcool]

63. I guess you didn't mind being lied into war...

Why are so many people stuck on stupid?

[quakerboy]

76. What is a muclear missle?

It sounds like something that might go well with cookies. Or maybe it is better seasoned and grilled?

[Politicalboi]

103. It's Hillary who

Is acting like a child. No accepting the FACT that she cannot pass Obama's lead. So she sends Baby Hughey (Bill) to twist the facts.

[demobabe]

35. I suppose she could loan herself another $9 million and say the rest was from small donors

How about you show us your books, Hillary?

[symbolman]

41. Yep

Nothing keeps her from tapping into Bill's Columbia MONEY, and refilling her coffers while they claim that billions sent her FIVE BUCKS at a time..

I want to know WHERE this money is coming from..

Also, I was told that if you go to her site to donate FIVE dollars that once there you are forced to CHOOSE another number, the lowest one being TEN DOLLARS..

SCUM.

[demobabe]

46. You can contribute $5, but you have to write it in as "other amount"

They try to shame you into at least doubling your $5 and donating $10 at least.

[baldguy]

86. Maybe Obama supporters should start donating to Clinton.

Each could make 10,000 individual donations on $0.01 each. The processing fees alone would end the campaign.

[anigbrowl]

78. My first guess, and my GF's as well when she saw me looking at the website

Meantime, we got the 'one of a million' Obama shirt today. It's cute!

[ShortnFiery]

39. Kick to expose the M$M LIES for Corporate Clintonian DLCers.

:P

[cbayer]

40. If it is untrue, and I agree that it most likely is,

the only thing it proves is that the MSM will say anything to get viewer attention and often gets it completely wrong.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why people who call themselves progressive liberals even listen to this garbage. Turn on PBS or NPR. Turn your stupid commercial stations OFF!

[bobbert]

42. Did she give her campaign another $5 million loan?

[Perry Logan]

43. Logan's Law: if the word "PROOF" is in caps, there is no proof whatsoever.

[demobabe]

47. Well mathematically and with real logic...

...it wouldn't really be possible to "prove" the concept.

BUT, by the rules of journalism, MSNBC is clearly slanting the story and engaging in bad journalism.

Why? They want to keep Hillary in the race as long as possible because it boosts their revenues.

So I would agree that MSNBC IS propping Hillary up, in their own self-interests.

[demobabe]

48. Additionally, it should be "Logan's Theory," NOT "Law"

... and it wouldn't be too hard to disprove your theory. Back to 10th grade for you! ;)

[H2O Man]

51. Along the Tombigbee River

in Hale County, Alabama, there is a place known as Logan's Bluff. For some reason, that came to mind.

[symbolman]

54. Oh, YOU..

You slay me, everytime :)

Hey, you might want to read my book H2OMan, I know we've been on the opposite sides of the fence now and again, but I really respect your opinion, and would love to hear what you think of it.. if you have time, I know you posted the Obama book you were reading out by the minnows the other day, made me think of you with my book out there :)

Just wondering, no pressure, and THANKS for the illuminating posts!

[H2O Man]

57. I'd love to read it.

PM me with information on where I can order a copy.

There is a program on now, called "The Human Footprint." It said the average person reads something like 462 books in their lifetime. My son thought that was hilarious, because of my book consumption.

[symbolman]

65. Great!

Thanks, I'll get together a copy for you, appreciate it..

[symbolman]

49. Aww gee

I'm so sorry the world is so difficult to ken for you...

[The Doctor.]

50. Amazing how conveniently these 'laws' line up with your positions....

Where do you get them?

:eyes:

[symbolman]

53. I believe it is time to go after the MSM on this

I'm just about ready to put together a list of the lies, obfuscations, propaganda etc that's being promulgated by the Media to keep this race going. It is TRAITOROUS, and akin to pushing Iraq, and once again they are doing it for money and to control the OUTCOME OF AN ELECTION. I don't see why this shouldn't be considered Election Tampering, and maybe some smart Liberal Lawyer should SUE these media guys for this.

We could blanket CNN, MSNBC and others with calls for this to END, to report RESPONSIBLY, they are damaging our COUNTRY and this should not stand. A Boycott? Hammer the FCC?

Ideas?

I'm serious, just about ready to start a campaign of our own... every blog, etc.

Anyone interested? I've got some connections, and we hammered Limbaugh real good years ago, he lost major advertisers, Big Ones.

IT IS OVER, and they need to quit bashing the TRUE CANDIDATE.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

55. the media and news websites are making money off of this

notice the shilling is spread around.

Notice that guests like Jonathan Alter who told the truth a long
time ago - isn't a guest much more.

He's a party pooper.

[psychopomp]

58. kick

:kick:

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

59. I'm watching the History Channel~ Krakatoa!

Same thing as the Clinton Campaign.

[TexanDem]

62. Other than Olbermann - Obama has no "friends" in any cable news network...

.. that I can tell. They are all promoting Hillary, as are the Repugs. Maybe that's the reason? It's a total disgrace!
K&R

[symbolman]

64. Hey Hillary Backers!

Wanna chime in on this one?

Crickets....

[Hamlette]

68. Just got email from Obama camp. she raised $3.5 mill not 10

[goclark]

70. Not another lie

Pinocchio

[symbolman]

72. Funny isn't it?

That Obama has a better idea of her Resources than SHE does... :)

Maybe HE should be President, eh? Lol..

[northzax]

98. and they provided what evidence?

please post the email, so when the fec reports come out next month we will know who was either remarkably prescient or lying through their teeth.

[BenDavid]

73. you must not watch much news then. Hell nbc abc cbs cnn are in

the tank for obama. you ever watch the situation room? I have come to view fox news during this election cycle as being more fair to hrc with more postive stories and that is not to say they run negatives on obama. They have a way of reporting that to be is better then cnn would ever be....

Now remember there is a damn big difference in fox news during the hours of 9 and 5 c t and fox news between the hours of 7 to 9 c t. Those two hours are roasting both hrc and obama....

[Scurrilous]

74. K & R

:thumbsup:

[expada]

75. So this is proof that "the media" is "propping" Clinton? lol

wow. So months of primary coverage can be consdensed in one comment by two MSNBC analysts.
Forget the Chris Matthews and Shuster's comments that earned them suspensions. Forget the right-wingers who praised Obama until Clinton was eliminated from the race. Forget that Pew study that found media bias in the first 5 months of 2007 Forget the cackle and Olbermann's bias and the press' indignation after the ABC tough questions against Obama.

This comment, according to this DU'er, erases all those factors.

Simply amazing..

[demobabe]

77. The media are propping her up to keep her in the race...

...because it sells advertising, pure and simple. Always follow the money. They're milking it to get every single last ad dollar they can. Think of how many more millions of dollars will be spent on campaign ads on TV!

There IS a bias, and it's towards anything that makes the TV/Cable stations more money.

So, yes, the media are indeed propping Hillary up.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

79. Tonight FOX's Hannity seem to be supporting Hillary. ...n/t

[katerinasmommy]

81. You people just do NOT get it

How dare this boy with no Washington history or important relatives in government and/or the media have the AUDACITY to crash into the establishment and take the Queen's rightful place??? You ignorant peasants!

[Medusa]

82. My local paper did too

plus they had a front page story on "Why can't Obama seal the deal"--yes they now accept Hillary's talking points wholesale without doing fact checks. Isn't the MSM lovely? :eyes:

[democrattotheend]

83. Her website nows says they raised $10 million

Unless I am reading it wrong.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/home/

If it's true congrats, Hillary folks.

[onenote]

96. None of us have any way to know if its true. Or untrue.

I'm an Obama supporter too and maybe she did raise $10 million. I'm certainly not about to call out the media for having lied about it without any proof that they're lying.

My rec for the OP: calm down. focus.

[northzax]

99. exactly. In a record fundraising year

all things seem possible.

[beezlebum]

87. i thought those

yahoo/ap stories that were all over all day yesterday, on msn, as well as on my local news site, that "Clinton's PA win comes with cash prize; Still the underdog" were fishy.

I hate that they're trying to paint her as the lovable "underdog" too. she is not the underdog- she's the sore loser that wants to help mccain win- there were others that proclaimed: "While Clinton, Obama fight continues, Mccain picks up lead." just kicking back and relaxing.

i didn't believe the whole hillary is helping mccain bit, but now, i do. Oh, and then the "McCain criticizes Obama ad, says he wants to keep clean campaign." YAAAARRRRRGHGGG! she is making it some easy for EEEVVVVIIILLLLL mccain to look good!

[SaveAmerica]

88. Won't this be public record? My husband heard this last night and said "She's Lying"

(and I'M the skeptical one about all this). I told him that she couldn't lie about this because they have to keep record of all their finances and then it's made public at the end of the month.

If this is true this is probably the stupidest thing they've done in this grossly mismanaged campaign. There must be a monkey at the wheel of this campaign.

[northzax]

100. it doesn't matter if it's true

everyone here believes it anyway. And I can pretty much guarantee that no one on this thread will start a new one the day fundraising reports come out and apologize for calling her a liar. What do you think? Just like the people who didn't believe Obama could raise $30m in January.

[eilen]

89. I saw that this morning and almost choked on my coffee

My son was impressed. I told him to wait. She's already lying with ease in North Carolina, how do you know this is true? I'm just surprised MSNBC is calling on that.

[1trackmindGOP]

91. Us vs the Establishment

Who will win? They want HC or McCain...stop and think about why this is. Somebody is going to lose in a big way in this election, it is not Obama, Clinton or McCain, it will be either (main street and the world) or (The powerful elites) that is ruining our country...MAKE NO MISTAKE about it, they have no intention of giving this power and control up easily, McCain and the Clinton's are their choice because they hold allegiance to them and know they can maintain their influence with them in office...do you really think that is good for you and your families best interest?

[Buzz Clik]

92. Ok... so how much did they raise?

[high density]

95. MSNBC reports it was $10 million across 100,000 donors

80,000 of which were supposedly new donors.

So an average donation of $100, 80% of those which were new donors.... Uhhhh I don't believe that for a second.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24295524/

[Hissyspit]

93. They are on target to raise anywhere from boogeda-boogeda-boogeda to SCREEEE

The new numbers look very promising:

Threeve and Sixen

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5343315

[libbygurl]

94. Absolute proof....would that be like Absolut Vodka, 80 Proof?

Oh, winner of comedy award in an unintentionally comic role.