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KhaOZ (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:06 PM Original message |
Hillary Defended Rapist against 12 Year old girl? |
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KhaOZ (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Googled and found this Link |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Dear God - Clinton Used The "Little Slut Wanted It Bad" Defense |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Questioning the character of the accuser is a common tactic in rape trials. |
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KhaOZ (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Imagine if she was your daughter. Would you want that defense lawyer as your President? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Speaking as an American, if I learned that she had |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Of course not. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Are You Sure That's The Standard Defense? [nt] |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. Are you that cold and callous? |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. Are you that cold and callous? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
88. moral? bull-shit. The victim was a 12yr old girl- she was not given |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #88 |
107. "even if an attorney KNOWS without doubt that their client is guilty..." |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
120. is "justice" served when a guilty person goes free? Is "justice" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #120 |
125. No, which is why guilt and innocence cannot be left up to the judgement of one |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #88 |
158. 15 yr old said he had sex with her - but 12 yr old denied it as she "liked him" |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Terrible.... |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. That's a great article. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
157. girl told provable lies& Hillary pointing this out was wrong? (older man was 15 yr old lover?) |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes, it's true. Now tell me, |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Only if it's Hillary, apparently. |
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KhaOZ (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Read |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. of course not...I should tell my best friend to stop doing that since |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. What are the facts of the case? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Even if he was guilty, that doesn't change a thing. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That's true. Being a defense attorney, you sometimes have to defend some real dirtbags. |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:17 PM Original message |
Is this the only strategy she had? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
23. No. And alternative tactics would have, in her calculation, been less effective, |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. "...in her calculation" |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. I'm with you on this. There are much better reasons to vote for Barack over Hill than the fact |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. Hillary Clinton did not need to rip into this little girl... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. It never got to the point where anyone had to be put on the stand. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Emotional people. They lost touch with rational thought. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
92. She was prepared to. The affidavit apparently still exists. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. If she really did have sources telling her these things, what |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. Look, ordering up a psychiatric evaluation of a 12-year old rape victim |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #99 |
110. In order to accomplish the Constitutionally-guaranteed right to legal defense. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Wrong. There are plenty of ethical avenues she could have pursued. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. If she believed they would not be as effective, such avenues would not be ethical. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. She was under no legal obligation to destroy a 12-year old rape victim |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. She was under the legal obligation to provide the strongest defense possible. If the |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. And she chose a tactic that is unconscionable and WRONG. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. If she believed it would be the strongest possible defense, it was the ethically correct decision. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. By the code of lawyer's conduct, possibly. By any humane standard, NO. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. There's a reason defense lawyers have a bad reputation. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #136 |
149. They'd do it for any of us if need be, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. Indeed. Everyone hates lawyers until they need one. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. I used to do victim-offender mediations. I developed a very deep respect |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #99 |
114. I don't know, maybe you missed it, but in this country, |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #114 |
123. Blaming a 12-year old rape victim for her own rape is WRONG. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #123 |
127. Do persons accused of crimes only possess their |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. Well, Hillary didn't do anything of the sort. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #129 |
137. The July 28, 1975, affidavit says otherwise. |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
46. An atty. who learns her client is guilty can ask to be recused from the case. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
90. There is no indication whatsoever that she learned her |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
85. If you rape a 12-year-old |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #85 |
101. he still deserves to have a competent defense attorney. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #101 |
162. There's competent and there's compassionate |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
112. If you are an American, |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #112 |
163. I totally agree |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. Even if true, that is called being a good lawyer |
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MzShellG (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Yikes.... |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Guess what. Little girls can lie about rape. It happens. Check this out... |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
87. Read the article |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. Oh, for fuck's sake n/t |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. What part of "acting as a court-appointed attorney" ... |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. She was - gasp - doing her job? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. Hillary was doing her job, and providing a service guaranteed |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Define "garunteed" |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Thanks, I fixed it. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
15. This place is getting to be more fun than the National Enquirer! |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. Yes - it may even be getting to Weekly World News Standards |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. There is truly no hope for this forum |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. It's not so fun to come here that often anymore. I had hoped this would have been a safe place. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
17. How many times is it necessary to post this? |
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LadyVT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. Democracy means even people who are guilty need to be defended. |
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KhaOZ (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. And it means we dont' have to elect people who would go to such lengths to discredit a Rape Victim |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Why do you think she did it? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
64. do you reconcile this with your admiration of her defense of women and children? |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
32. Court- appointed attorney. |
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KhaOZ (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. But to play the "Dirty Slut Wanted it" card? Did the court appoint her to do that too? |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. You defend your client to the best of your ability. THAT IS A DUTY! |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
79. win at any cost? - sounds familiar. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #79 |
96. I'm not a Hillary supporter, but I do believe in upholding the Consitution. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. I'm not arguing the "Obama/Hillary" issue- I am responding to the |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. read the article. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. I did- |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. Yep. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
71. . |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
33. That is the work of an attorney. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. But the man raped a little girl! |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Forgot the "Innocent until proven guilty part" huh? n/t |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. What in the hell are you talking about???????? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Nowhere in the article does it say the man admitted |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. She never claimed that the girl "wanted it" at all. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. she may not have used those words, but the intent is clear, and was not |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. The victim in this case does not harbor the ill-will that you seem to. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #77 |
97. as a survivor myself- I DO have a concept- and I |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Everyone has a right to a vigorous defense. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I don't know what it is you were reading. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
169. You are correct in finding the man's conduct abhorrent. |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
39. Here's the analysis I posted in an earlier thread-Clinton was out of control on this case |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Out of control? I believe that the Word of the Day is "unhinged." |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. OMG? She hired a forensic expert to examine the evidence? |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Sorry I didn't make it simple enough for you to understand the nuances. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Oh boo-hoo. |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #59 |
75. Out of state experts cost much, much more money. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Yeah. Money should be saved for the wealthy... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Exactly. |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. Deleted because I was wrong and I admit it. n/t |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. The court paid her $250; the clinic had to eat the rest of the costs. |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Got it. You have a point about her being wasteful. n/t |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #78 |
93. There might have been a good reason as to why she |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. As a non-lawyer, I didn't glean what you did out of the article |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. Good question. And if there was sex & she's 12, it's statutory rape. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Considering this was over 30 years ago, |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. No, he only admitted to illegally fondling her - that was the plea bargain. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
83. Thank God you're retired. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #83 |
98. rug, why let the facts get in the way of hyperbole? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. No wonder there are so many dead lawyer jokes. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
67. Sorry, today's words are "hysterical, wifey & unhinged", not "out of control" |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
118. the article I saw says she pushed hard to get the legal clinic expanded. |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
134. I read the link that someone posted above. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
146. she bears Hillary Rodham Clinton no ill will ... the victim, that is |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
41. Can you imagine the wails from the Hillary Brigade if Obama had done this? |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. You are all adults. Be responsible for your own behavior. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
80. There would be at least twenty threads burning up the tubes |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. And any male who defended him would be instantly branded a woman-hating proto-rapist. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Oh hell yes. There would be torch-lit marches at every Hilly headquarters |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #80 |
103. No offense, but I'm defending her on Constitutional duty grounds. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. There is no Constitutional duty to traumatize 12-year old rape victims. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. You confuse the issue. A lawyer must provide the most vigorous defense possible. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. A defense attorney is not compelled to destroy a 12-year old rape victim |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. I pity you. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
48. Read the whole article. Her work on that case was outstanding. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
69. I'm HAPPY TO SEE |
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RememberWellstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
72. The bar gets lower? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
73. "I received this in an email just now. Anyone know how true this is? Perhaps a smear?" Sure, uh-huh. |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. Sock it to me, baby. |
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MeDeMax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
76. people need to get a life, 32 years ago for cryin out loud n/t |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Chappaquidick was 45 years ago. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #84 |
155. Who here has mentioned Chappaquiddick? nt |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
91. How far down the way back crapper did you dig this shit up? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #91 |
100. 35 years is the number Hillly keeps suggesting. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
104. I need to say I do NOT think this is any reason not to support Hillary- I |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #104 |
122. I wonder how many of these posters crying 'foul' would actually |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #122 |
130. Doesn't make it right, just like hypothetical scenarios don't make torture right. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. That's ridiculous. She had to do her job to the best of her ability. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. There are many tactics available. She chose an ethcially WRONG one. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. No she wasn't. And, I'm not even a supporter. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
138. Deleted message |
rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
139. I am not a lawyer...I am merely a citizen in a nation that has, |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. The standards of legal behavior are lower than the standards of humane behavior. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. I just read the story as described in Newsday, post #1 above... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
140. I can't stand HRC.. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. There are many tactics. She chose an unconscionable one. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. This un-American sentiment would be more at home at Free Republic |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Look, there are good tactics and bad tactics. Torture is bad, so is this. |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
143. Wow. Compact cursive. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
148. Defense attorneys are what makes the system work, |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
150. This is the 3rd post on this today. |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
152. Where Did The Email Originate And Who Are You? n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #152 |
156. prob. gleamed it off the 3 other side threads here on DU |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #152 |
166. A "28 year old in the Military who normally goes for the Republican". |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
154. Great job, shithead. Proud of yourself? |
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KhaOZ (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #154 |
164. ok? thanks for your input |
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pintobean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
159. She learned the value |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
160. I just now got this email too! n/t |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
161. Jesus. Hope none of you guys ever need a defense attorney. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
165. She was a defense attorney. She was doing her job. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
167. How can this be? Totally irrelevant--!! The girls age provides that this is RAPE --- !!! |
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peacebaby3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
168. Guess I'll have to post this in all of these threads. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
170. Court Appointed Attorney...doing her job. We should not |
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