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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:21 PM Original message |
Carville used the "cult" word against the DNC and Dean. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's an old ploy used to undermine something gaining in popularity... |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Exactly |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. When Carville speaks, the Clintons speak. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. That guy gives me the CREEPS! |
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jedr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Who knew that Republicanism was STD? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. It's a terrifying disease... |
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jedr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. LOL...... |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. ROFL |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's a human problem - the lazy way out - name calling, etc. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Not when it is just Dean and Obama it is being used against. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. Let's have a little look at Carville, shall we? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. and here he is undermining justice (RE: Scooter Libby letter to Judge Walton): |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Isn't it amazing how no Dems want to check that out? |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. People need to read this thread. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Blinders-just like the failure to address DLC links to PNAC |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
58. Good post. Great info. |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
63. I think this deserves it's own thread. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&Freakin R.. thanks for this. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. You are welcome. The similarity in attacks is amazing. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. It is.. and I remember clearly that I had not engaged in the primary season in 2004, still |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. We must not take it lightly....frontpaging it at DU alarms me. |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
8. It is Carville... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
55. He did or does have a huge following. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. It's meant to clog up all the space for discussion so no one can discuss her policy faults |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I am inclined to agree. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. Skeletor wants his head back. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
13. For some reason I thought Carville and the Clintons had had a falling out... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. He was in the car with Bil Clinton at the Nevada caucuses. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. I'd heard this quite some time ago - before the campaigns got in full swing. |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
18. We are in a Social Movement - Not a Cult! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. It is being done deliberately. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
22. Which is why I fear for all that Gov. Dean has done if Hillary gets into the White House |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. He is done in Florida now because of her superdelegates. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
26. I think Carville is a racist because of the things he has said over the last 4 years. |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
28. This should be the most recommended thread on DU. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. Well, actually....that honor would go to the one calling us cultists |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
29. Bill Clinton's mighty DLC machine "takes no prisoners" ... they're trashing our party. |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Leave the DLC out of this |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Yeh, 2004 is over. The DLC won that one against Dean. |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. And I suspect that they have learned from 2004 |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
93. you're right to a point |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #93 |
103. Well, that was full of interesting, valuble |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
31. God bless carville, may he find his own peace, don't feel America will fall for it twice though. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Actually many Democrats still worship the ground Carville walks on. |
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ZinZen (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. LOL - MF |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. I have been amazed at how many love him. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
33. Obama supporters are being called cult-like |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I am supporting Obama because of Hillary. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Not every Obama supporter is cult-like |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Cult should never be used against each other. |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
86. I could not agree more |
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ZinZen (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Wrong! |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
35. K & R |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
36. Right. With establishment help, the MSM turned Dean into a Wild-Man |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. I hope we learned...but I don't think so. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #36 |
82. The sad thing for me back then was that Dean |
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ZinZen (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
46. I wouldn't be surprised if that deranged |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Heh heh great minds.. |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
50. Remember his remark about Dean's "Rumsfeldian incompetence"? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Oh, yes, indeed I do. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
54. Carville should be suspended for ugly hate speech. |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
56. kick! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I want Carville to apologize and be suspended. He was very ugly. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
57. I think Matalin knew they would do this back in 2005. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
60. When I think of cult I tend to think of another candidate's supporters |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
61. The post calling the Obama folks cultists is getting huge attention. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
62. LOL He IS working with Hillary's campaign. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
64. Carville, the K street democratic republican hybrid |
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vssmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #64 |
79. Exactly what I was thinking |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
65. Ha ha...the post that calls us cultists has 103 recommends. |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #65 |
89. Once again we have circled the wagons and are |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
66. As a former member of the "Dean Cult" I recall that very well. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. It is painful to think of all those who are no longer here. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Yes it is. I miss many of our old "friends". |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. 112 recommends for the cult post. Amazing. |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 08:26 AM Response to Reply #69 |
80. I used to look for her posts. |
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Obamaniac (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
70. I guess Clintonistas figure... |
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JohnBreauxDemocrat (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
71. madfloridian, I think upstarts like Obama and, for his part, Dean |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Will it hurt your feelings if I laugh at that suggestion? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Well, I see that person is no longer with us. |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
73. it is a truly vile tactic. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
75. What it is about is driving ordinary people out of participating in the public sphere |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
76. it's called politics and it a hellhole of a game...you see it all over this board by both sides |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
77. The next president is going to need a strong following. |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
78. I notice that people call "cult" when someone else |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
81. Carville is a DLC Stooge - Phuck him! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
83. Carville is another poisonous "Democrat" --- who should be tossed overboard --- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. ...and if Carville is working with Hillary's campaign, another reason not to vote for her --- |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. He was on a recent campaign strategy call apparently. |
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KalicoKitty (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
85. Look at what Carville married! |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Please don't make me - it's not fair to the rest of us who still have good vision. |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
90. Important post. Kick and recommend |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Labeling supporters is a dangerous tactic... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
92. Another "Whine About the Cult Word" thread!!!! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I had firsties. That was a shameful post. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. What person's site? There have only been fifty threads on this cult subject. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. And do you consider me a cultist? Just wondering. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Can you articulate Obama's positions--his actual positions, not vague platitudes-- |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Temper temper temper |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. See? That's the kind of shit I am talking about. I ask you something calmly, quietly and |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. This is NOT calmly and quietly .....your quotes... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Again--context. You fail, deliberately perhaps, to note the CONTEXT. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. CONTEXT means nothing when you are being insulting. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. But I wasn't being insulting. You are taking offense because it is easier to pretend |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
96. Carville is part of the old guard Democrats |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
97. Certainly people understand this is a prized tactic against the "antiestablishment" |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
100. Translation from carville is |
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REDFISHBLUEFISH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Harold Ford was head of the DLC when Obama campaigned for his Senate bid. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Check your dates. I don't think he became chair until after he lost in TN. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
107. What IS funny about this whole thing is |
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