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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:16 PM
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MSNBC: Los Angeles reporter says there are internal polls showing Obama and Clinton tied in CA now
There was a Los Angeles reporter (Colin Nolan I believe) on MSNBC right now who said that he talked with many political consultants last night at the Los Angeles debate who told him their internal polls are showing Obama and Clinton tied in California.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:18 PM
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1. Obama CA rally on CNN.com live NOW
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:20 PM
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2. tied? that is major because Clinton has been leading-lots of
support, etal
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:21 PM
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3. Regrettably Hillary has already bagged a lot of early votes
Obama just needs to win a lot of delegates in CA.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:22 PM
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4. As a caveat, I believe they were reported as internal polls...
...on the Republican side.

But it was also noted that Clinton is spending a lot of time in California, which obviously says that her own interals are telling her that CA is far from locked up.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:36 PM
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6. I wouldn't be quick to conclude that
We have a proportional system and the bigger she can win the better. Even if she believes she will win the state she recognizes there is a big difference between winning with 55% and 65%. 10% of California's delegates gives you a number about the size of South Carolina's delegation.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:52 PM
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10. The math is more complicated than that...
Because it goes according to district, not the state as a whole. And unless the district has an odd number of delegates, Hillary and Obama will likely be walking away with the same number of delegates. In even numbered districts, either candidate would have to get 60% or greater to walk away with an extra delegate.

This article helps to explain it:
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/01/delegate_allocation_the_califo_1.php

California is going to be a clusterfuck. The popular vote isn't going to tell us much at all. It's fight district, by district.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:17 PM
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12. Thanks
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:35 PM
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5. Gobama!
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:38 PM
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8. National elections break in the final weekend
It happens all the time in presidential elections. There is a definite Obama surge going on. If he performs well at the debates tonight, I expect the polls to break his way across the 22-state primary.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:38 PM
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7. Internal polls? Ah - no links then...How convenient.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:53 PM
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11. I think the OP clearly stated that this was heard on MSNBC...
So yeah, no link.

FWIW, I too heard it.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:38 PM
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9. Yeah..I heard a caller on C-span say that hillary was ahead by 30
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:21 PM
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13. Pure Clinton camp expectations game
She'll take CA by 12%, easily.
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