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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:39 AM Original message |
THE TIME HAS COME TO ADMIT WE ARE IN DEEP TROUBLE |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. K&R. nt |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. He left the race because nobody voted for him. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. No problem balantz |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. YES i got that same impression. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
37. He was waaaay off of his |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
129. I Picked THAT Up RIGHT Away... What A Shame... A REAL Shame!! n/t |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
142. stumbled over the stark phrase "let history take its course" as highlighted on Daily Show |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
217. Yeah . . . |
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pauldg0 (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
301. I hope he has just begun to fight ....our country is failing us.... |
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JustDavid (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #301 |
356. I can agree with your sentiment |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #356 |
400. Deleted message |
still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #400 |
430. On what basis are you calling someone a "Freeper", that is against DU rules |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #430 |
441. I'm not aware of that rule |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #400 |
446. the editing period has passed, but I will rephrase my post |
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pauldg0 (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #446 |
521. Thanks Andrea.......... |
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lakeguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #356 |
508. i hope you can't breed. |
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Patriot Abroad (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:39 AM Response to Reply #356 |
541. Welcome to DU? |
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sean (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #301 |
518. Then maybe here is OUR CHANCE |
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pauldg0 (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #518 |
523. Sean, welcome and thanks for support.......... |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #523 |
638. Great idea! |
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classykaren (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
438. I agree with that n/t |
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onetinsoldier (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
487. edwards personality |
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Labors of Hercules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
41. It was literally like someone was holding a gun to his head. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Agreed |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #54 |
88. Was he tracking to get 15% on Tuesday? |
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Morereason (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
244. Blackmail? Makes you wonder... |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #244 |
334. That's what grabs my attention. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #244 |
380. not blackmail or anything else |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #380 |
404. Funny! |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #404 |
409. Holy shit! I've never seen a profile like that. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #404 |
494. Good work!!! |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:28 AM Response to Reply #404 |
548. Ignore this message |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #380 |
418. "losing Iowa was the worst he was finished from that point on" |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
159. Agreed.. and it is very troublesome. |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
188. ............ |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
245. If he had waited until after Super |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
281. I got the same impression. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
282. If threatened a real citizen would go public. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #282 |
290. See post #271 |
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classykaren (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #282 |
444. Not if he had little children and a sick wife he wouldnt |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #282 |
529. Ross Perot was threatened & went public.MSM made him out to be loonie after that......... |
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iris5426 (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
347. I know! |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
432. Or to Elizabeth's head. nt |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #41 |
502. I also suspect there is more to the Edwards story. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #502 |
504. I hope it is sooner |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #41 |
522. (so...i wonder what's new with the bilderberg gang) n/t |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
38. i have to say this in response to the Thank You email i got |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
144. caution my friend, it may be a crime in your state to offer to sell a vote, not just to sell a vote. |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
40. self delete |
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emmadoggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
107. That really bothered me too. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #107 |
146. Question: CAndidates dropping out is usually because the big donors drop out even if not grassroots |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #146 |
196. That's a good question |
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november3rd (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #196 |
324. Super delegates |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #107 |
327. I had the feeling someone else had written his speech for him. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #327 |
530. I was wondering where she was - I think she wasnt active almost a month - |
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Shine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
272. Yes, I agree. Something was amiss in his delivery. |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
335. This is really a nightmare. |
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dsharp88 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
389. Because he didn't want a brokered convention... |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
427. I read this a while back! |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #427 |
448. Yes, those rumors tried to get started in the fall |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
515. He didn't read the whole speech. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #515 |
591. You raise an interesting question. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
534. It's very likely that John's delivery of the speech was affected ... |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. When the MSM wont give him time, the country doesnt get to know him |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
536. Iowans did |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
488. Total Fucking Bullshit... "The Voice of Corporate America" WON for Their Cause... FASCISM! |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
549. I am sick of hearing that |
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bulloney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
553. Edwards could see the writing on the wall. |
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foxer (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #553 |
566. Or the Horsehead in his Bed |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. ... |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
4. Correct - that's why I'm still gonna vote John Edwards-Give John the Power |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
42. I'm still going to vote for him, too, but |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
55. He'll get my vote as well. I posted below... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
330. Edwards has my vote. No question. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #330 |
340. We must vote for John. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
253. Would It Be Possible To Contact Trippi Or Someone Close To Them |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #253 |
407. Speaking of Trippi |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #407 |
496. Just Checked Back In Here Tonight... Haven't Watched ANY MSM |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
5. One shot at answering WHY. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
46. There is but two choices left |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #46 |
60. There is always change after economic upheaval |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
47. Actually, this answers |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Isn't the fact he wasn't getting enough votes to win, reason enough to drop out? |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
70. Several reasons |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #70 |
79. But are those reasons enough for him to continue the campaign grind? |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #79 |
89. I'm sorry, I just don't agree with you. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Hey, it was fun. |
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Stardust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #94 |
525. I agree with you. As for his demeanor...well, it sucks when your message |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #79 |
257. Edwards.. A Go-Getter Type... That Says VOLUMES! He Never Seemed |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:17 AM Response to Reply #257 |
532. His parents. What about his parents? he had them with him on campaign - could be |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #79 |
440. Winning is NOT everything. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #70 |
96. Those are your reasons for him staying in, but... |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #96 |
102. You are assuming that he only had one agenda and |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #102 |
113. Well, what I'm assuming is that if he has... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #96 |
445. SC is NOT his home state. He hasn't lived there since he was |
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factanonverba (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
321. you should look at this |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #321 |
326. Thanks for pointing me toward that. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #56 |
82. You are actually |
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factanonverba (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
313. why edwards may have suspended his campaign |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
533. exactly |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
133. He was getting pressure from the dem party |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #133 |
145. I never did look past the headlines on that accident. |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #145 |
168. So did I. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. I love that! Thanks! |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #168 |
269. Just On That Alone... The Question Is WHY?? Tell Me Why... But |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:33 AM Response to Reply #168 |
535. OK. I was suspicious of the accident Kate had. Awfully suspicious that |
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foxer (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #535 |
567. Planes only crash with Dems in them, never Repubs |
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RuleOfNah (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #145 |
219. I noted it. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
49. In other words - Nader is right. (nt) |
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Labors of Hercules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
58. I hope it gets worse sooner rather than later... |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. That is a extremely valid point. |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
242. are they merely counting on it |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
243. That's why the Fed keeps throwing $$$ |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
328. That's another reason candidates need to start telling the hard truth... |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #328 |
343. John was telling the truth. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #343 |
345. Telling the truth will entail a battle; compromise, IMHO... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
436. You seriously think we are NOT in a horrible situation today? |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #436 |
586. All this shit has a delayed reaction in the economy though |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
470. Damnit, i agree with you. nm |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
6. Are you suggesting that Edwards was forced out? |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Skinner |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
273. I, For One Do Think There Was Force... Or Maybe An Actual PUSH! |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #273 |
278. I'm taking off my tinfoil hat for this one! |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #278 |
295. KICK!!! n/t |
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classykaren (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #273 |
449. Look what fox media just did to Montel Williams |
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Stardust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #449 |
500. And if anyone insults me with an explanation that he got the ax for |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
480. My thoughts do we already have dictators, |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Whether or not that is the case is besides the point. The point is the reality of what is. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I CONCUR 100% |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. I also concur 100%... |
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iris5426 (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
358. Not snarky |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
575. The DU'ers who see it and have watched it all progress in the |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
62. Exactly |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #62 |
71. And, I think some - not all - but some supporters... |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #71 |
85. Some of the posts in this thread |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #71 |
251. I believe that the Corporates are |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #251 |
308. One of the reasons he was knocked out |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
160. "we are personally left alone more" |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
184. I am not sure what a copacetic situation would look like to you |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #184 |
203. For one, a "copacetic" siatuation is one which wasn't so corporate money driven |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #203 |
227. I am not sure it is corporate money |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #227 |
229. And suppose the media gave him equal attention. |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #227 |
307. V gained control of the media...he took back control. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #227 |
312. Sure it would, but could they? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #227 |
332. Edwards had enough money. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #184 |
275. The sheeple do NOT outnumber us. We are the MAJORITY who have been silenced by the media. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #275 |
452. well I am glad I could contribute somehow |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #452 |
558. This link may be a start: |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:56 AM Response to Reply #275 |
539. Excuse me - what does FUBAR stand for? |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #539 |
557. pssssst..... |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #557 |
588. Thanx Timefor :) |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #184 |
299. that is the problem |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #299 |
471. I am ok but my kids are having a hell of a problem. Even a college education doesn't mean much |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #184 |
333. As usual, I agree with Two Americas... |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #333 |
447. it's one experience of corporate America |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:16 AM Response to Reply #447 |
545. My bad, hfojvt... |
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Not Sure (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #333 |
501. If you hadn't said "single mom" |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
53. Trippi just kicked off a fundraising effort on Monday |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
260. EXACTLY!! |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #260 |
271. Interesting possibility. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #260 |
315. That threat of martial law is why |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
84. See post #81 |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
212. Edwards had said he's "in it until the end". What happened? |
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factanonverba (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #212 |
336. check this out |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #336 |
370. Interesting -- thanks for the link. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:48 AM Response to Reply #370 |
537. makes sense, evident in tonigt's debate, too |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
252. i sure as hell believe that!! and i was at his rally in SC and i worked with his camp in Iowa and SC |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #252 |
419. I believe he was silenced, at that last rebate he slammed down |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #252 |
526. bookmarked. n/t |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
465. Yes. I for one do. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
9. is it that hard to figure out why he left? |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Congratulations! |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
50. That wasn't an idiotic response...it was the truth. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #50 |
59. "he didn't have the delegates"? |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #50 |
66. I won't get angry... |
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pamela (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:31 AM Response to Reply #66 |
527. Speaking of trial lawyers... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
267. Just your name alone puts you on the Ignore List. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
279. Have you forgotten the stolen elections of 2000 & 2004?! |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #279 |
317. Bingo. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #317 |
402. no some of us have not forgotten the stolen elections and for us in Fla it has been |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #279 |
579. Thanks for bringing this up...exasperating that there so little discussion of this around here |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
239. I have just joined you in that. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
262. HE BROKE 15% IN HIS OWN DAMN STATE..what are you talking about S.C.?? HE HAD 18% EOM |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
10. They have been silenced by the voters. They had a choice. They could have voted for others. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Then |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
33. It was so "sudden" and so inexplicable, and so shocking that it forces one to consider |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. While not wanting to get into imaginative conspiracies, |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #43 |
73. That's precisely one of the scenarios I had in mind when using the word "nefarious". |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:51 AM Original message |
Yes I figured so. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
542. Wait a min. As a Prez candidate John had Secret Service protection - |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #542 |
594. Actually, no, he didn't. |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
67. Asking why he was marginalized... |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #67 |
77. "Edwards wasn't exciting, he wasn't history-making". |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #77 |
93. Right, they don't see it because |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #77 |
95. I agree with you.... |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #77 |
119. He was fighting an un-winnable uphill battle.. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
90. Not entertaining??? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
181. Condoleezza Rice is "historic". |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #181 |
182. Correctamundo!!! |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
283. Take your LIES elsewhere. Because you are GLOATING that Edwards is gone. NOT sad. |
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AmBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
138. The other thing out of character about that explanation is... |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #138 |
348. I think you may be right. Good point. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:34 AM Response to Reply #138 |
528. i'm thinking that it has nothing to do w/elizabeth & her health because |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #528 |
580. Except what I hear, which is worse |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #580 |
595. I think you meant DNC (not SNC) - just a typo |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
346. I hope that's not the reason, but maybe that's it. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
12. I don't think you can comlpletely blame society's choices of candidates |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Except when they come out and say stuff like 'I like Edwards but I'm voting for X, |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
351. That is it in a nut shell |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
39. But can't you see |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #39 |
108. I agree with you on most of what you say, BUT that doesn't |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #108 |
112. But McCain is puppet fodder. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #108 |
276. And you have no idea of how much $$$$ |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
57. Like Barack Obama said |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
17. It's pretty obvious why he left. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
78. You are mistaken |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #78 |
98. Denial is strong, I see. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #98 |
101. That kind of reasoning is buying into what is promoted by the corporations. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. You guys are starting to sound like the Gravel and Kucinich supporters. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #104 |
150. Hello to my favorite pompous ass... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #150 |
166. Hey la. Yeah, I am concerned about the media in general. I think they're lazy and incompetent, |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #166 |
172. Thank you, Occam... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:57 AM Response to Reply #150 |
540. no, i think people aren't that stupid |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #540 |
597. You are not making your argument |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #104 |
468. Wait? You're supposed to be on my ignore list. Why can I see you? |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #468 |
481. Level 2 n/t |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:50 AM Response to Reply #104 |
538. exactly |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:23 AM Response to Reply #538 |
547. I'm not really talking conspiracy in this case... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #547 |
584. agree with all you just wrote |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #584 |
600. Sorry, you are just not following the discussion |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #600 |
605. voters on the ground didn't like him |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
318. You mean like the man whose family voted for him, but then they didn't, officially... |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
19. I don't think it's corporate domination, but domination of Democratic voters' preferences. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Occam's Razor is almost always correct. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
68. Corollary: Occam's Razor decreases in it's frequency of "correctness', when applied in socio- |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #68 |
97. Silence |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #68 |
99. I'm in love with you |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #68 |
118. Your example is deeply flawed, as it |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #118 |
140. Your reply was more accurate than mine. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #118 |
162. Interesting, but your rebuttal is deeply flawed. For several reasons. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #162 |
186. I never claimed that Occam's Razor would have suggested that the Holocaust must have occurred. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #186 |
193. It is noteworthy that you had to invoke the greatest scandals of the past hundred years to defend... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #193 |
206. Keep repeating it "logical disconnect" "logical disconnect" |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #186 |
205. You are making our point for us |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #205 |
208. Well said, Andrea. In human endeavors, critical information is almost always hidden. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #186 |
218. This is a very interesting and thought-provoking post. Much to consider. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #218 |
322. No, the lamp just broke, Tom. Can't you see what they're trying to tell you? |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #68 |
134. You misunderstand Occam's Razor. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #134 |
175. And you are retrofitting the data to match your conclusions. See post #162. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #175 |
183. You are a bit all over the map here. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #183 |
197. It is difficult to explain human illogic with logic. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #197 |
226. People are not always logical |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #134 |
176. Duplicate. Self-delete. n/t |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #24 |
560. Have paid any attention at all to what has happened over the last |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Right but why? |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
44. You can always be counted on, rob, to think inside the box. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
103. Again |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #103 |
131. I find I'm "following" you and Tom here...lol |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #19 |
124. I think it's very naive to think that the media does not have a large part.. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #124 |
350. Not only does the MSM control our |
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Digit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #350 |
506. The morning news shows are the worst... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #506 |
596. I don't turn TV on until I am ready to go to bed... |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
442. Goddamned Defcon 3. |
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chapel hill dem (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
20. Maybe Elizabeth is having a set-back and he wants to be w/ her. n/t |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. See my response #15 above... |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
21. I'm not that sure |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
22. John Edwards found himself stuck in 3rd place. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. In the first caucus, he came in 2nd. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. That's the first glaring fact that many choose to overlook. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Yes, it was BLATANT. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
52. Honestly |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #28 |
75. Then came New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. And you think the press's Goreing of Edwards had nothing to do with that? |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. It would benefit all of us if those of you who... |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #80 |
105. I note |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #105 |
110. How on Earth could we wage such a thing? |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #110 |
121. These are exactly the questions we need to explore. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #110 |
127. I'm open to suggestion, Balantz! |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #127 |
323. very small idea |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #323 |
325. Good idea. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #325 |
342. I have this vague idea floating around.... |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:47 AM Response to Reply #342 |
543. You are describing Keith Olbermann-tonight he called junior treasonous among |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:46 AM Response to Reply #543 |
554. I just watched it.... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #323 |
361. I stopped donating to the ACLU when they |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #361 |
423. I'm no big fan of exploitation, either |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #127 |
352. Your message needs to be heard or read everyday! |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #352 |
355. All but a few of the airwaves are corporate-owned. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #110 |
250. By Then It's TOO LATE!! I Agree With What You Are Saying And I Too |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #250 |
339. Circumstances may change very quickly |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #339 |
353. It would be suicide to stage a revolution. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
26. Those who can't see beyond the "lack of voters" excuse |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I've been in a slight state of shock the last few weeks... |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Good post! |
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Girlieman (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
288. Excellent post |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:21 AM Response to Reply #26 |
546. those who lived through nazi Germany |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:59 AM Response to Reply #546 |
550. This thought comes to me. The meltdown of the $ and the mortgage meltdown may be a good thing. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #546 |
602. It's chilling. |
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shenmue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
32. I am not someone who gives up. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
36. I'm betting on one thing alone: John has principles |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
45. Two words for you: Move on... |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
63. Do you not see any tendency of the media to manipulate? |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. That is the important issue. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #63 |
86. I understand the media. I work IN the media. I know how it works. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #86 |
106. This isn't about Edwards. I said that clearly and I asked a clear question... |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #86 |
109. And here is the problem.... |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #86 |
115. This is the type of thinking |
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foxer (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #86 |
194. Not very inquisitive for being in the media, Why? |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #194 |
421. Yeah, a perfect example |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #86 |
367. Are you the one who holds up the cue cards? |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #367 |
369. LOL! |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #367 |
371. That made me laugh too! |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #367 |
424. Good one!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
486. yeah I get it. Status quo forever. Hope you like it. nm |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
48. another possible problem I see is |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #48 |
83. You seem to be saying that only a white man can be elected President. |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #83 |
151. That is not at all what I said. |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:35 PM Original message |
Maybe you need to think again about what you wrote. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
372. So you've talked to Obama and he has |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #48 |
132. You make some important points. |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:28 PM Original message |
You're absolutely right that without voting integrity |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
51. Citizen Class Action |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
135. thanks for posting this link |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
61. Great Post... |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
65. Frank Zappa on voters in America |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. I see nothing harsh in Zappa's words. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #72 |
199. I disagree that they are the next best thing to criminals. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #199 |
478. "Congress is America's only distinctly native criminal class." -- Mark Twain n/t |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
74. Read this entire essay to get a solid grasp of the big picture: |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #74 |
111. That's an excellent read! n/t |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
81. zalinda offered the most cogent explanation in my mind |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. I don't buy it. |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #87 |
148. You make a valid point |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #148 |
563. BINGO 2hip - I've just come to the same conclusion by looking |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #87 |
155. Dean is not well liked in the "old guard" of the dem party |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
91. Disgruntled Democrats should do what I'm doing: Go Gravel. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. I'm voting Edwards on Super Tuesday. His campaign is merely "suspended", meaning |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #92 |
100. That's a fine choice, too. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #100 |
114. While Edwards might not get more delegates... |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #100 |
122. There is NO "dirt" on Edwards. And even if there were, it could only hurt him if he's a candidate. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. And even that haircut wasn't dirt |
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foxer (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #100 |
191. Maybe not, but his delegates could |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #191 |
224. They aren't really "his" delegates anymore, are they? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #224 |
228. I don't think he has released them... and he hasn't endorsed anyone. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #228 |
234. I just heard some Iowa delegate on NPR the other day... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #234 |
237. I don't know about that... |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
116. The same thing happens time and time again. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
117. I appreciate all of your responses |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. P.S. |
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TheDeathadder (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
125. I understand where you are coming from |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
126. I've Poured Out My "Soul;" Since Yesterday... You Speak For Me And |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #126 |
167. I agree...it has been hijacked....but |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
128. it was between the media and the powers that be that |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. THE POINT IS |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
136. All caps, now that is persuasion! |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #136 |
143. No |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
137. Thank you very much |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #137 |
147. No |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
139. I stared at this all day yesterday..from the most crooked state in the Union... |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #139 |
156. This is what I have been thinking as well. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #139 |
158. Oh no. You looked where the evidence would be |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #139 |
240. I Also Live iN FLORIDA & For A While He WAS Getting 15% Or More... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #139 |
303. I can't believe that EVERYONE on DU doesn't realize that they have stolen ALL the primaries. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #303 |
331. you are 100% correct.,.like busses of kids being bussed into Iowa!! |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #303 |
341. You are absolutely right |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #341 |
368. They did what they have become very good at, |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #139 |
426. Yes, of course. Why would this election be any different |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:13 PM Original message |
Let's all vote for Edwards in our primary's. The real measure of our passion comes in |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
141. Let's all vote for Edwards in our primary's. The real measure of our passion comes in |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #141 |
153. Although CJP's post is to the bigger picture. Right now, voting for Edwards gives us |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #153 |
225. I'll be voting for Edwards. |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #225 |
233. A soul is a good thing. Sometimes we neglect our souls, glad you will be feeding it with your vote |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #225 |
246. I've Said Almost 50 Times Since Yesterday... Let's STAY With Edwards... |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #246 |
249. I'm with you sista'!! |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #246 |
306. I'm with you too!!! nt |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #246 |
390. I will vote for him if he's on the ballot. How can I find out if he will be? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
149. Sorry this thread is rated EC-10 |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #149 |
161. If I were brand new to politics I might agree with you. But I don't. And the reason I don't |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #161 |
174. I'm not really impressed |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #174 |
187. Also, in Iowa, in the intersection were bus loads of Obama-ites from Ill. Money |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #187 |
230. voting in the caucus's as well..Obama is a liar and a cheater..wake up america! eom |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #230 |
412. you mean we're not gonna have a president as pure as the driven snow? |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #412 |
437. Yes |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #437 |
646. no actually I know that. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #174 |
392. and what do you know about the caucus's in Iowa? and what do you know about the busses of kids |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #161 |
310. Thank you for the insider view. Many of us know the score but far too many are in denial. nt |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #310 |
413. you know how that works ..people deny.. till they get fucked! and one way or another |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
152. K&R because of the awesome thought & interesting speculation you put into your post |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #152 |
178. Thanks mtnsnke |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
154. The nutshell is the "why?" |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
157. Losing sucks |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #157 |
165. In a nation where the gap between haves and have-nots and have-littles... |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #165 |
169. Absolutely. The message is bing manipulated, therefore so are we. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #165 |
177. BINGO! |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #165 |
192. The populist message is still deemed of interest |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #165 |
384. Since 1980 (I mark as the Beginning of the End), |
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
163. On last night's "Daily Show", Jon Stewart offered a theory |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #163 |
170. Its not only the sudden "suspension" of the campaign, John's demeanor in the presser and lack of |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #170 |
179. I think he trusts his supporters to make up their own minds |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. Good points, all. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #170 |
201. absolutely..this is a trial lawyer who didn't use notes in court!..damn it..wake up people.. |
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #201 |
221. RE: "Antenna at full mast" |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #221 |
235. ron paul's signs were all over my county in Pinellas as well, only saw one Romney sign |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #201 |
294. Anyone Who Has Watched John Edwards KNOWS He Really Blew |
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iris5426 (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #201 |
387. exactly. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #201 |
450. I feel the same as those in this little subthread... |
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iris5426 (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #450 |
598. He does have an army here... |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #598 |
607. I'm a big Harry Potter fan as well, so that is very apt. :) n/t |
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TheUnspeakable (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #201 |
555. flyarm-thank you so much for all you've done.. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #201 |
561. trouble reading the words"time to step aside so that history can blaze its path" |
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foxer (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #170 |
202. He was "rattled" and he Doesn't Rattle! |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #202 |
236. he read the speech..he never reads a speech..ever..and he screwed it up and read it again |
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foxer (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #236 |
304. Somethings very not right here! |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #236 |
386. So do you think someone NOT on his staff |
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publicatlarge (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
164. Agree with your premise. Is Obama the Orwellian candidate? |
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Prefer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #164 |
173. Listen to Obama repeact duplicitous neoCON talking points about H1Bs |
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publicatlarge (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #173 |
185. How about that? |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #185 |
189. Again...BINGO |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. Isn't it fun |
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Prefer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #190 |
195. Barack or Hillary is really about plausible deniability for the theft plot |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #195 |
216. Yep. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #195 |
309. You are so right I am afraid. |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #309 |
460. "Buy it hook, line and sinker," nothing! |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #190 |
395. A friend is writing a |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #189 |
509. Didn't See This Comment Earlier... But I've Always Said That The Idiot |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #164 |
200. I believe the mysterious rise of Obama |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
198. You are in stage 1 and stage 2 right now |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #198 |
455. I'll give you the same answer I gave another asshole upthread. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #455 |
519. You on the other hand are fully in stage 2. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #519 |
564. As if you had a clue. |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
204. I have a sneaking suspision that.... |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #204 |
207. A candidate for POTUS |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #207 |
210. Maybe there is more info on her illness they are keeping private? |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #207 |
268. I had some thoughts on this on my post #255. |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #204 |
289. I both hope you're right and hope you're wrong. |
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lisainmilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
209. I wasn't even going to log on today |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #209 |
214. I totally feel the same way. Every word. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #209 |
215. You know we are amigos Lisa... |
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lisainmilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #215 |
643. HOW? |
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SusanLarson (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
211. If you don't know what the OP is talking about check this out |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #211 |
222. You can also watch "The Corporation" on Youtube |
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SusanLarson (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #222 |
297. 2 Parts Clarksville Online vs 23 parts on youtube |
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desertflamingo (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
213. remember... |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #213 |
220. Tonight's debate, |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #213 |
512. I Posted On Another Thread A Little While Ago... I Came VERY Close |
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GrimReefa (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
223. So, why did John Edwards step aside? |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #223 |
405. Just go smoke another doobie and let the adults take care of this. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #405 |
513. One Ringie-Dingie For YOU femrap!!! That Was GOOOOOOOD! n/t |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #223 |
565. GRIMREEFA - good post - close but no cigar :) |
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memory (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
231. I'm afraid and very disheartened. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #231 |
398. It's the Rothschilds/Rockefellers, Stupid! |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #231 |
517. Tinfoily Or Not... Spot On For Sure!!! And I Too Am AFRAID!! |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
232. You pointed out the problem. The status quo is being |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #232 |
247. How do you suppose we will have the power to make the Dems. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #247 |
254. I think they will be more responsive to our protests, emails, phone |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #254 |
259. Well they sure haven't done it yet! |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #259 |
264. That's because we still have Bush in office. If we keep |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #264 |
277. Are you forgetting that this administration has commited LISTS of crimes |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #277 |
284. No, I'm not forgetting any of that and I can't impeach him. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #259 |
354. I'm with you on this. Just got yet another email from the |
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Prefer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #247 |
263. They sure aren't, are they |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
238. Since the media is basically the propaganda arm for the corporations... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
241. We can't even talk about the real problem on DU. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #241 |
258. Yup, how long before this topic is in the dungeon? |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #258 |
359. Thankfully it is still here |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #258 |
360. Was Just Making Dinner & THIS Was The Thought I Wanted To Make... |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #241 |
357. I'm afraid you might be right. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #357 |
416. We ARE moderates! The party has left US..... we aren't leaving the party because we're weird, |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #416 |
456. Thanks, Bobbolink! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #456 |
458. Careful where you wear that "moderate" label! Some of us really sick |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
248. Exactly ! K&R |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
255. Here is my take on it... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
256. I've been asking WHY all last night and all today. Your OP is dead on. It does NOT make sense. |
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Shine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
261. Well that was totally fucking depressing....although I completely agree with you. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
265. The Presidency is only one third of the power |
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Prefer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #265 |
270. we have a dem congress |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #265 |
287. There is only the corporate power. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #287 |
568. BALANTZ - you are really something. You get it ! |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
266. Why? Maybe he made a deal... |
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Leo 9 (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
274. I like Obama. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
280. I Haven't Read All The Posts Here... I've Been Posting Myself... But Has |
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Prefer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #280 |
285. After all the years of this, it just fits the same old pattern of corruption |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #285 |
300. I Have NO BLINDERS ON... Just Saying That There Is A Ground-Swell |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #280 |
431. Right |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
286. A simple, obvoius graphic illustration of JE's invisibility, Dems' made into cartoon soap operas: |
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onethatcares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #286 |
302. that's exactly what I see, as progressives we're supposed to |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #286 |
365. Yeah, I Saw That Earlier... Says A Mouthful!! Have We Descended To |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #286 |
397. amazing isn't it????????..idiot questions for dems ,.and ignore John.,. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #397 |
434. Absolutely right |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
291. What's the mystery? Edwards was silenced to help HRC. Edwards retaliated by releasing his votes, |
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Morereason (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #291 |
406. Yours is a quite plausable expanation |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
292. I agree. We are left with the "WHY" over a completely nonsensical, illogical situation. |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
293. If you are looking for the perfect non-corpo candidate, stop looking |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
296. "We" have been in deep doodoo.. |
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FATCATs (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
298. Yes and no could be and perhaps |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
305. It really bothered me how Kucinich also abruptly shut down his campaign |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #305 |
570. Rahm Emanuel at work. probably running another dem against Dennis |
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november3rd (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
311. Sounds like you know why |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
314. He could see the game was rigged. What was the point? |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
316. Has anyone stopped to consider... |
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memory (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #316 |
337. I don't think so |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #316 |
349. I don't think DUers ever stop to consider...anything. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #349 |
375. I would rather investigate, question and discuss, |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #375 |
379. Yeah, the candidates' issue positions, voting records, financing, etc. is all publicly available |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #379 |
381. Nobody is making you read this thread. |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #316 |
374. See post #336. |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
319. Two tickets come Nov... |
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lisainmilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #319 |
644. agreed! that is the way I see it too! n/t |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
320. Oh yeah, we're screwn. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
329. Gosh. I'm intrigued by your thread. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #329 |
435. I didn't know this about Vermont. |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
338. After the Kerry/Edwards loss in 2004 |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
344. He was on the ticket as VP in 2004 |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #344 |
414. Gee, with Money and the Media |
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swag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
362. "Smarmy." |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
363. Why didn't he wait until after Super Tuesday? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
364. What's the big mystery?? |
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sagetea (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
366. Thank you, |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
373. I never thought the criminals who stole the last two elections would give up their power. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
376. Money, media attention, selective "facts" that dribble out. I agree, this |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
377. Edwards had to leave, because the corporate media made it impossible for him to survive. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #377 |
382. THANK YOU! |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #377 |
572. McCAMY - now that's a plan ! But you do need to make it a |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
378. I don't have the why, |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
383. read the papers, for heaven's sake |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #383 |
388. Disagree Completely |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #388 |
391. agree, few though Edwards could implement his agenda |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #383 |
394. Read the papers! Now there's a solution... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #394 |
503. Baudrillard? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #503 |
520. Well Baudrillard wasn't exactly a fiction writer. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:16 AM Response to Reply #520 |
531. was thinking of the manchester guardian |
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Morereason (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #383 |
401. Too shrill? Naw, just a talking point. Every debate study group tended to *like* him and his rhetori |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #401 |
505. not really |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #383 |
417. Heck of a profile you've got there. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #383 |
574. Is that you John Kerry? For sure it is. You ARE boring . Edwards was the draw in yr campaign |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #574 |
601. nope, i went door to door for kerry despite edwards |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #383 |
577. Another Issue |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
385. It would appear that we are losing |
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DogPoundPup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
393. Perhaps He Couldn't Compete..... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
396. It is January 30. Maybe it is easier to suspend |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
399. I am going to lay down the cold, hard truth about why John Edwards left the race |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #399 |
604. voters didn't like Edwards |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
403. Although I have not yet heard Lou Dobbs ask this question, |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
408. If you haven't noticed, they've turned Edwards into the candidate of "white supremacy". |
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mother earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
410. I'm standing with John, until I am told straight out that he has a place |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
411. I'm asking why, and I'm keeping my eyes open. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
415. I absolutely agree |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
420. spectacular post. |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
422. I am not satisfied with what has been said |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
425. YOU have said it all. Thank you. That said... i'm scared. |
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poppysgal (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
428. Behind the scenes |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
429. The point is, at least for 2008 this is what we have, and it comes down to |
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the other one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
433. Tinfoil time. John was forced out the same day as |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #433 |
439. No tinfoil needed friend |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
443. This Edwards supporter disagrees. I'll be happy to support Obama or Clinton. |
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classykaren (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #443 |
451. Please read the daily Kos and see what Fox media just did to mon |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
454. Instead of getting out your tinfoil hats why not just |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #454 |
466. Yes |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #454 |
467. Just like it wasn't "meant to be" for Kerry and Gore. /nt |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
457. Ooops... straight to the camps with us. n/t |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
459. It's very simple, really. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
461. I was watching his speech expecting something, some |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
462. We are NOT in big trouble. |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
463. I'm beginning to think we should BOYCOT THE 2008 ELECTION en mass |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
464. The PIed piper has played his tune |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #464 |
469. Deleted message |
readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #469 |
473. Thanks for the heads up. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #473 |
476. wasn't I agreeing with your posts yesterday? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #469 |
474. Deleted message |
ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #474 |
483. Hugh |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #483 |
493. No problem |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
472. In at Rec # 165 |
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greyghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
475. Time to move on kiddies... |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #475 |
482. Its the same coup |
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greyghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #482 |
491. There is no doubt that this... |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
477. Something that strikes me as weird |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #477 |
479. I'm pasting my words from a debate thread |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #477 |
485. It's genius |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #485 |
492. Successfully lulling the public to sleep is "genius"? |
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Riktor (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
484. My smarmy, non-thinking response |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #484 |
490. We can blame ourselves for buying the hype and the skew if we want to, |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:01 AM Response to Reply #484 |
551. People vote emotionally... |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
489. The stage has been set |
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factanonverba (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
495. why edwards may have suspended his campaign |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #495 |
499. Very interesting indeed |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #499 |
576. uh -uh No -No. Dont buy that one. Answer is coming a few posts down |
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indigoblue (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #495 |
629. He was probably forced out by the higher-up in the democratic party |
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Lena inRI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
497. Yessiree, cjpreston. . .sharp observations . . . |
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stickernation (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
498. BLACKMAIL !? |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
507. His departure was part of the script. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #507 |
511. A correction: |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:10 AM Response to Reply #507 |
544. I agree 100% Auto! Sucked us dry! |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
510. What are the stages of grieving again? Clearly denial is up. nt. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #510 |
516. THE IRONY OF YOU TALKING ABOUT DENIAL |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
514. ....... |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
524. BushCo have used the tactics of fear and manipulation to produce a sense of helplessness. |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #524 |
569. Not until their beer and football is taken away |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
552. Edwards wasn't slienced - he wasn't believed. |
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TheUnspeakable (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
556. k&r-thanks for starting this thread / eom |
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newportdadde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
559. I thought it odd he dropped out just before Super Tuesday, like quiting a marathon within view of th |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #559 |
571. And especially since he had gained momentum |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #571 |
581. I believe |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #581 |
587. This "government" of ours is just a sham. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #587 |
599. Sorry for the pessimism, |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
562. K&R |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
573. I don't know about you, but I'm fired up about our choices |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #573 |
578. Well that's a great fantasy. You see two corporate owned candidates |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #578 |
583. So - since you're perfect and all, what are you going to do this November? |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #583 |
585. Not perfect, but I do try :D Voting for John Edwards in GE |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #585 |
590. Great! Whatever helps you sleep at night. n/t |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
582. Cleric John Preston - Why? mystery solved |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #582 |
592. The "history " remark struck me as all wrong when I heard it |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #592 |
593. Thanks for giving your effort in sending that letter. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #592 |
609. Occurs to me this dem party has no place for liberals & populists |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #609 |
614. The Party does seems to be of two minds |
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lisainmilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:05 AM Response to Reply #592 |
645. I did the same thing with McCaskill n/t |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #582 |
621. Kennedy wanted to create a "legacy" for himself |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #621 |
654. Agreed! |
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ShadesOfGrey (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
589. I live in JE's home town and I've followed his career for a long time... |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #589 |
608. SHADES - think I'm right? or you think a serious |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #608 |
610. Rachel Maddow.... |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #610 |
611. I hold that small hope far off in a corner. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #610 |
612. OK - here's earth shattering |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #612 |
618. Reeeeeeellllly? That's rather awesome... |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #612 |
626. from your lips... |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #626 |
630. Yes Anne. Exactly n/t |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #612 |
632. Kellie |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #610 |
613. REV, i think she's good too -but thought she was for Obama n/t |
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iris5426 (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
603. Error: You've already recommended that thread. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
606. Kick |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
615. I have the very same concerns and questions . |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
616. I'd like for somebody again to try to convince me that |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
617. Thank you to all |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #617 |
619. CLERIC JOHN - did you read- John is back in !!! also |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #617 |
620. This thread is unwieldy - how about starting a second thread with URL back to this one? u can |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #620 |
623. Dear Kelli |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #617 |
622. I could delve into far more substantive points of contention... |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #622 |
624. You were of a mindset before you came in this thread |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #624 |
631. "Mike Malloy and his hardy band of ultra-fighting Democrats" |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #631 |
633. Kerry4Kerry |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #633 |
640. You must know that investigators have to come up with solid evidence... |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #640 |
641. Of course I do |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #641 |
649. I've worked at coorporations, I work at one now... |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #649 |
655. The Peter Principle, isn't it? |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #631 |
634. That doesn't explain at all why he dropped out so abruptly |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #631 |
642. You are mighty full of yourself Kerry |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #642 |
647. You talk about others being full of themselves... |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #647 |
652. A post |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #652 |
653. All that sound and fury signifying nothing... |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #653 |
658. Its no problem |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #658 |
659. I'd glady accept the judgment of any bystanders... |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #659 |
660. I'll stand by the OP |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #660 |
661. Is that a nice way of saying... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
625. Agreed. n/t |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
627. Kick! |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #627 |
628. Isn't it great |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #628 |
635. Another Kick For you John |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #635 |
636. Hear here! I'll kick for that! |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #635 |
637. We |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #635 |
648. I've been intrigued with how many can't begin to process this... |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #648 |
651. I see this too. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #648 |
656. VERY interesting |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
639. I'm Giving This ANOTHER Kick... Those Of You Who Can Vote On The 5th |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
650. Something to contemplate |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #650 |
657. Words to live by! |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
662. Another Kick. |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
663. they did ask why. n/t |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
664. Kick |
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