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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:57 PM
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How Will Obama "bring in Republicans"?
I always hear Obama saying he can get independents and Republicans, but how? He is as liberal as Hillary, which I like, but he will get no Republicans. These same people thought John Kerry could get them, and they gangbanged him as bad as they got Bill Clinton, in exactly the same kind of way. Why will they NOT get Obama, and why will Republicans like him? What about him is bipartisan?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:59 PM
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:25 PM
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14. Damn, you're weird.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 11:25 PM by tabasco
You've become some kind of freak.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:41 PM
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20. lord and master? What HAVE you been up to at home lately, Aquart to put that mindset
in your head.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:00 PM
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2. Good Question
I remember when Kerry won the nomination. I thought his hero status would make him immune from attacks, but as we all know he was swift boated.

I think the Dem nominee whether Hillary or Obama will be swift-boated over and over.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:05 PM
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3. By bringing everyone to the table.
It's really a shame how fundamentalist bigots and corporations have been denied a place at the table in this country.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:39 PM
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18. OH SNAP!
and I agree.
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:59 PM
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25. HOW?
and WHO will he bring to the table
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:01 AM
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27. Precisely my point! n/t
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:02 AM
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28. probably these guys...
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:10 AM
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34. Heh.
:thumbsup:
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:07 PM
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4. Sigh! Is this a real question or just a trap for Obama supporters?
When the first two posts are "formula" Hillary responses...one just has to wonder. Are you serious in your question or just baiting?
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:00 AM
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26. it is the fundamental question about his candidacy
I am being dead serious. I always hear Obama talk about it, but he hasn't laid out how or exactly WHO he will bring to this "table?" I wanna know how he will bring them
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:05 AM
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31. I heard him mention that he would bring us to the table.......along with interest groups....
and would discuss policy decisions on C-Span with call in programs.

So in discussing Bankrupcy legislation proposals he wouldn't only talk to banks, but to banks, attorneys, folks that have experienced bankrupcty, credit counselors, etc......

It may not be perfect initially, but I prefer that approach rather than a Bankruptcy bill (that some voted for) being brought to the senate, being voted on, and then we hear about it after it has passed. :eyes:

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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:07 PM
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5. Haven't we brought people to the polls in record numbers?
Obama expands the electorate so he doesn't have to pander to people who don't agree with our core principles.

OTOH, the Queen of Pandering will be floating privatizing Social Security and the Fair Tax before the election is over.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:07 PM
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6. He has a FAR better chance at getting the Indy and soft Republican vote than Hillary...
There is no one and I mean no one more hated by the middle and the Right than Hillary.

And on top of that there are alot of progressives that will stay home or vote 3rd party if Hillary is the candidate.
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PerpetuallyDazed Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:08 PM
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7. What bothers me more is that he WANTS to be bipartisan!
I miss John Edwards. :(
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:43 PM
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22. if bipartisan means enacting YOUR policy positions, what's the problem?
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:08 PM
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8. More Nuclear power plants, for one
cutting Social Security benefits for two
More coal plants for three
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:09 PM
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9. Kerry brought in Republicans. Fiscally responsible, enviromentally friendly, anti war ones
That's how. He brings in the ones who are disgusted with their current party. Moderate Republicans. I saw them in the last election.
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:03 AM
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29. and thats how Bush won
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 12:14 AM by DiamondJay
doesn't equate out to me. Kerry got 6 percent of the GOP vote, http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html . Reagan, who Obama wants to be like, to be fair, in how he gets other people of the other parties, which I will nto contrue as admiration like Hillary, Reagan got 26 percent of Democratic votes from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election%2C_1980#Voter_demographics . That is 1 in 4, no MORE than 1/4. Kerry got 6 in 100. Big difference.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:08 AM
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32. Well, one would hope that two things would happen
there are more disgruntled Republicans than there were before

and

Obama would be better than Kerry at snagging them.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:11 PM
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10. Because they like what they see, and they have really poor/no choices
There's a significant number of republicans who feel cheated, lied to and pissed off about being intimidated for eight years. They are leaving the party in droves. Here in Ventura County, which used to be as red as Orange County, the "Decline to States" are the fastest growing category, a number almost equal to the hemorrhaging numbers of republicans. I'm an election officer, and the number one question at our polls in '06 was "what happens if I change my registration from Republican ?"

Those guys LIKE Obama, because of his take on divisive politics and how it must end.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:14 PM
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11. They don't "HATE" him, like they do Hillary...
For those Repugs who recognize a need for big change, he does not trigger as visceral emotion as does Hillary.

Not entirely her fault -- but he has a genuine appeal beyond party -- as of now.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:15 PM
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12. by sending his supporters in to disrupt Hillary rallies
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:04 AM
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30. you crack me up!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:16 PM
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13. I see him mostly bringing in apolitical types...
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 11:16 PM by rucky
but there's a good amount of disenchanted Republicans who feel duped by all the lies these past seven years. They're soured on politics, and already have a built-in aversion to anything Clinton. This Barak guy is a fresh face, and he's saying something different and something positive.

It's not any more complicated than that, because there's probably not much more analysis coming from these voters' perspectives.

The only way the partisan hacks can get Obama is to discourage (or prevent) people from voting at all.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:28 PM
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15. He will pray with them. n/t
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:37 PM
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16. I dunno
He bashes Hillary for working with Republicans, so how he's going to turn around and be able to work with them is beyond me. He accuses her of being the divisive candidate, but which one of them has actually proven an ability to work with the other side? And then wrapping up endorsements from people who haven't been especially well known for working well with Republicans, makes one wonder exactly what it is he means... Cuz clearly, actually working with Republicans, is a big no no to him.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:09 AM
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33. Maybe you should check out his record?
and people like Ted Kennedy have been working with Republicans for several decades. Her divisiveness doesn't have a whole lot to do with anything she's ever done (except as a first-lady)
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:11 AM
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37. I think Hillary would actually be a uniter
America doesn't really hate her, they think they do because of the bad press over the years. But when she is appealing directly to ALL people, regardless of color unlike Obama, regardless of sex, they will like her. The media will be forced to say some nice things because she is the anti-Bush in this campaign, McCain is Bush II. She will unite all against Bush policies because America hates Bush more. All of a sudden, people will ask themselves why they may not love her. I think she comes off less "slick" than Bill ever did, tho I found him very sincere. She also will get it better in Congress because she has more pull than just speeches, unlike Obama. They will also respect her because she has real experience. They won't like Obama, who opportunistically took the shot against the Clinton, who has no experience trying to tell them waht to do. Especially those who have been in Congress since Obama was in high school.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:38 PM
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:40 PM
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19. Dude. Spamming is bad form, and frowned upon by the mods
This is the fourth time you've posted the same exact thing.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:44 PM
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24. Oh Im new here and lazy Ill type it ot different.
Anyway the links undermine Obama's change campaign theme, after November 25th he will vbewrecked.

Trial starts then, Imagine the aitrplay he is going to get,and ALL of it undermines his campaigns theme!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:42 PM
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21. He's getting at least one Republican I know personally.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 11:44 PM by mcscajun
My oft-mentioned "only Republican friend" swears he will vote Obama over any Republican. If Obama is not the Democratic candidate, he'll vote for whoever gets the Republican nomination. I'm sure my friend is not unique.

On the flip side, I have a sister who'll vote for Obama in the primary, but only to deny Clinton the nomination. When the general election comes around, she'll vote Republican (even though she says McCain is too old). Yes, to my shame...I have Republicans in my family... :blush:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:43 PM
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23. promising moderate judges and helping to heal gays. nt.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:11 AM
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35. By being "a conciliator"
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:11 AM
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36. .
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 12:11 AM by Harvey Korman
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