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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:03 PM Original message |
A "HOLY CRAP" reminder about how Delegate Distribution works |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Very interesting. Is it the same for every state? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. All the states are proportioned this way. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. There are no-winner-take-all states |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. yes...but that is now a non-issue don't you think? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Yup. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
51. . |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. None. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Apparently WA does not have the 15% threshhold...but that is not going to matter |
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thesubstanceofdreams (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. Some districts have an odd number of delegates |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Well yes,,, but I suspect that over the course of the remaining states that 's going to be a wash |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. How many delegates (minus supers) would have come from FL & MI? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. A super delegate equals one delegate - they are just flexible in where they go |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I misunderstood. I thought their vote was weighted more. |
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Reciprocity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. In other words you can win the popular vote and still lose the race. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. And it may come down to Florida again. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Or you can just have the folks in Los Angeles, Chicago, New York and Huston |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I view this as 435 seperate elections |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I'm confused |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. ok Example Iowa |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. The green pages data at the state level seems to give the allocation |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. ok Example Iowa |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:16 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. dupe |
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RL3AO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. I think Clinton is going to win more states, but will not got a huge lead in terms of delegates. |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
54. Clinton could end up the New Al Gore |
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Sulawesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
9. K&R, Important post, nt |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Thank you |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
10. But....come Denver, doesn't majority rule? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Yes...so thus it may actually simply come down to Super Delegates. |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. no, the nominee has to have 2025 |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I understand it comes down to 2025 to become the nominee |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. If someone gets to 2025 without MI and FL, yes, they will seat them |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Well think about that |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. Once seated, they count. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. and until they are seated, they do not count. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Where does the 2025 come from? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Yep |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I have been using the wikipedia data. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Are they different? |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
12. What a mess. It's even worse than the Electoral College. |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
13. Edwards delegates too... |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. You're right.....I amended the OP. I think Richardson has a couple form Iowa as well |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
16. Looks like the dem establishment pretty much rigged the primary process for |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. why would you say that? Super delegates can only add to the total |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. because we don't determine who the superdelegates vote for. The elected |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. That doesn't make them 'establishment' |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Yes, I think that's a definition of the establishment. nt |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
23. Where can I find a list of delegates by State? I've tried several |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. WIKIPEDIA HAS SOME NICE EASY TO READ TABLES. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Here is the linkt o the best data tables I have found |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. THANKS! n/t |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Here's another one (not that there is anything wrong with wiki) |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
42. The "math" could change overnight if Edwards. . . . |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
47. If it comes down to seating FL and MI (a 50-60 point spread) then, I'm sorry, neither candidate wins |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I made the observation that if they are not seated then the |
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