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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:09 PM
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One of my best friends thinks Obama & Hillary are going to run together in the general election
I said that Hell would freeze over first.

Can you imagine, though, what that would do to the Repukes if it happened?

If Hillary is the nominee, I've already heard the political analysts on TV saying how the Republicans are shitting their pants about how careful they'll have to be with their sexist remarks, especially concerning a woman commander in chief. One sexist remark in a general election can turn a huge number of voters against you just like that.

If Obama is the nominee, the Repukes are just as worried they'll be walking on pins and needles during the entire campaign for fear of making the wrong remark that will come off as being racist and backfire on them to the point of no return.

LOL, not that it's going to happen, but can you imagine how backed into a corner the repukes would feel if they had to worry about offending gender AND race...in every sentence they speak? They wouldn't make it through the first day without sticking their foot in their mouth.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:10 PM
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1. I wish.
I'd take it either way.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:11 PM
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2. heck this race has been nothing like 1960
When JFK and LBJ went after each other. JFK went after LBJ on his business practices and LBJ called Kennedy the candidate with "rickets" whose father was "a nazi sympathizer." Come on! They could very well get together.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:18 PM
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10. LBJ/JFK was also my thought
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:13 PM
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3. They're not worried. They know they're going to lose.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:13 PM
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4. I can see a Clinton/Obama ticket, but not Obama/Clinton.
Clinton can add Obama to the ticket and cash in on all the Obamania. Obama, though, would be overshadowed by adding Clinton. And besides, the one thing Obama especially gets knocked around for is a lack of experience -- a VP slot sets him up for an almost sure-thing run in 2016. Plus, it would allow us to keep a lot of those first-time voters that Obama has drawn in. In other words, Clinton has a lot to gain by adding Obama to the ticket, but Obama has a lot to lose by adding Clinton.

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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:14 PM
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7. I tend to agree.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:16 PM
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9. He has a lot to lose by NOT adding Clinton too.
I mean maybe he could make peace by including somebody else from the Clinton camp like Clark, but that might no appease Clintons wider base, because they won't be politically savvy enough to know that Clark is from Clinton's camp, they will be pissed about Clinton herself seeming to get slapped down.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:20 PM
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12. Yes but, as has been oft-mentioned here, Clinton does especially well with registered Dems...
whereas Obama does especially well in open primaries. And that means that Obama can go with a candidate that offers him more than Clinton and still rely on a huge number of those votes (maybe not all, but most loyal Democrats will suck it up and vote for Obama, whereas a lot of those indies will just stay home.) I think Obama's much better off going with someone from the South or Southwest with a ton of experience but little of the charisma that Obama has in spades. Bill Richardson's an obvious pick, though Clark might be a good bet too.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:37 PM
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20. Hillary has a weird support base.
There's registered Dems, but if you look at the demographics, there's also a lot of white trash like me. People who shop at Wal-mart. What did Rove call us? Beer swillers? (while Obama has wine swillers I think?) Regardless, this base can be lost by Obama. She has this down-home white trash "mom" quality they like. Anyway, if Obama wins in a decent friendly contest, he can count on their support. But If Hillary comes across as abused, forget about it. These people will not vote for a "wine-swilling" shiny upper class african america who comes across as abusive to a "diner down the road mom" like Hillary. You can count on that.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:20 PM
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11. I agree - Obama/Richardson seems a lock
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:13 PM
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5. It would be great, with either of them as the nominee.
After the divisive madness, it must happen, too. Because if either major part of this party feels snubbed, it could cost us the GE.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:13 PM
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6. Don't rule it out
Obama and Kennedy were at odds for a long time, too. The (supposed) enmity between Clinton and Barack is about two weeks old.

I really do think they are Democratic loyalists all. If the polling shows that they lose to the Republican individually, but win together, they will run together.

And the Republicans won't walk on pins and needles. The nominee will stay squeaky-clean and let his underlings do the dirty work.

--p!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:20 PM
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13. Letting their undelings do the dirty work won't work for the Repubs this time
not when it comes to race and/or gender.

In Kerry's case, where he got swiftboated with lies, it pissed people off, sure, but how many of the voters are war heroes like Kerry? Very very few, so they can't understand it enough to know what he must have felt like.

In Obama or Hillary's case, if race or gender remarks come from ANYWHERE, how many voters are women or people of color? Millions upon millions, and it will offend THEM directly....and they'll take it straight to the voting booth.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:22 PM
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17. Lots of white men are also fed up
It's coming anyway. But I think that the GOP is finished for a while. This is our election to lose.

--p!
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:15 PM
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8. The Republicans worried about offending? Ha! Good one.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:22 PM
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15. When you're talking race or gender, you're talking millions of voters, Repub, Ind, & Dem who
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 02:22 PM by mtnsnake
will take it personally and right into the voting booth. Trust me, they'll be walking a tightrope.
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:23 PM
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18. Hillary
No way she will pick Obama.She will pick a DLCer like Bayh,or Vilsack.

Didn't you get the MSM memo that you have to be like the CLintons to win.

Obama like the Kennedys are losers because they aren't as pragmatec and centerist.

If they are on the same ticket It will be Obama/Hillary because Obama would want to help unite the
party.The clintons care nothing about the party.Bill Clinton has proved this over the last 8 years.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:20 PM
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14. I wish it would be an Edwards/someone ticket, but if I can't have Edwards
as Prez, a Hillary/Obama or Obama/Hillary ticket would be the BEST TICKET EVER THAT THE DEMS COULD RUN! I can only hope they don't completely detest each other by the time that decision comes around.:( If Hillary and Obama REALLY, REALLY want to win, they would put aside their differences and run together. The BEST ticket for Democratic longevity would be Hillary/Barack because she's 60 years old. Hillary serves for 8 years then Barack runs and serves for 8 more years with another younger VP....who can run and serve for 8 years with a younger VP....we would never have to live under repuke rule again!:7 EVER.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:22 PM
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16. If Hillary wins , she will offer the VP to Obama.
Hopefully, I won't have to say "I told you so."
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:25 PM
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19. I too think Hell would freeze over first.
A combination of either of them and Edwards.. maybe. But Clinton and Obama. No way.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:38 PM
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21. If true
If true, this would really fuck up the GOP's plans.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:39 PM
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22. Either way, a lily-white manly-man will be at the end of the ticket.
If they can find an albino that spits nails, that oughta cover it.
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