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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:55 AM Original message |
Here's an excellent point by Andrew Sullivan... |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
1. Don't particularly like Sullivan, but he nails this one n/t |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. ~good question -- |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. Sorry, Andrew Sullivan is full of crap. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Amen! It was Gore who should have gotten angry over Florida... |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Former Presidents often bite their tongues about the antics of their immediate successors.... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. "Tradition" died the second the Republicans started poking around |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Yup, they want to hold onto the make nice way of politics... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. They're like the mommy in a dysfunctional family who wants the yelling in |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. And that's why we weren't angry about Gore and Kerry not fighting for us? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. In that wonderful tradition... |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
50. Ahhh - Gore took it all the way to the Supreme Court. What more could he have done? |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. All due respect, but hurrican relief and tsunami relief did nothing to save our democracy. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Bill saved his political capital when he should have spoken up in 2004, before the election. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. When Bill hugged Bush, HE was full of crap. nt |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. HERE'S THE ORIGINAL SOURCE FROM DAILY KOS. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. I guess nobody here really wants the truth. Just as I thought. nt |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
4. Clinton has been great in many ways but he almost never spoke against Bush |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Sullivan , OTOH, could have spoken against Bush, but sniffing Clenis is what |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. "sniffing Clenis" |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
5. how would Sullivan have had Clinton 'help us out?' |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
6. lol Sullivan is a neoconservative that helped get us the corrupt Baby Bush |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Well, come on, he endorsed Kerry in '04 and has admitted he was dead wrong on Iraq. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Sullivan claims it was the "torture" that turned him against Bush. Sullivan lacks good judgment. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
8. You lost me from the title. Still waiting for Rush to be "right" - he praises your guy |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
12. HRC can't even "help herself" by clinging on to a faithless husband and his DLC in order to glean |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
13. When Bill Clinton left the WH he had to turn the keys over to bush |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
15. Well gee, you all want WJC to be more presidential and by |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
16. "excellent point by Andrew Sullivan"? That'll be the day. |
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Glorfindel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
17. Sorry, but "excellent" and "Andrew Sullivan" never belong together |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
18. I don't know what video these guys watched, but I did NOT see an angry, red faced Bill Clinton... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
19. Actually, the link attributes the first paragraph to kos. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
20. Obamites posting pieces from Reagan speechwriters and Sullivan? |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Sully supports Obama. As in 100%. Are you suggesting we |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Only Obamites would take Noonan's "advice" for the Democratic Party |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. You don't have to turn away anyone. But you can be mindful of the source. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. So does Rush Limbaugh. And the whole MSM. For now - don't get too used to it |
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Clintonite (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
24. Please try not to EVER post a fucking link to andrew sullivan!!! |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. So says "Clintonite"! nt |
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Clintonite (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. I will always use this username. I am sorry I do not like seeing |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. But Hillary IS a Republican talking point! nt |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Welcome to DU! Glad you don't let the bullies get to you. |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
25. Andrew Sullivan never makes an |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Andrew Sullivan is so far removed from Limbaugh and O'Reilly |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
52. An Obamite posted a Peggy Noonan WSJ op-ed just yesterday |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
27. andrew seems to write critical of hrc..could it be andrew is having |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
34. LOL - another right winger source for DU. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
40. People don't want to look at the substance of the argument so they just |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
41. Bill Clinton was polite throughout the Bush years and worked behind the scenes on numerous efforts. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
46. sullivan is a republican and -- and a legend in his own mind. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
48. Ex presidents have to walk a fine line. I think there would have been |
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PervezClinton (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
49. Oh, Ms. Thang loves it when Andy gets his dizzy head into the game. |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:49 AM Response to Original message |
51. Uh, didn't Jimmy Carter win a Nobel Prize after speaking out against invading Iraq? |
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