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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:32 AM Original message |
My brother asks me why I dislike Hillary Clinton so much. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. Funny, you don't have to be a Clinton fan to question the Reagan Comment |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. When I talked about how Reagan was a transformative figure |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Reagan was a professional liar and a puppet for PNAC before |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. You are absolutely right about Reagan |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Saying nice things about someone at their funeral |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. So you've never sat there and wondered why the Republicans got so much more of what they wanted done |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Then why not Mention FDR? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I don't remember FDR. I'm too young. |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:51 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I don't read history books ,because I'm too dumb. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:08 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Oh are you? Well I'm sorry then. |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
60. Good point |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Yet they find a way to defend it. |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I am afraid the next president if it is a democrat |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
64. he did mention FDR, you just didn't read his whole statement |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. May you since you "Heard" it could find it for me. |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
52. uhh, those posts that I was talking about. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
48. Did you live through the Reagan era? He won 49 States om '84!! |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:39 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. To be honest, I never got Reagan's appeal. I hated the guy because |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. And he lost the Senate in '86. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. Because he was a damn good liar |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. I will vote for Clinton if she's the nominee, but , my respect for her and Bill |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Know whatcha mean jellybean! |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:35 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'm sure you gave him the unspun and unvarnished 'truth' |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Once I got to the part of the story where the teachers union |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I bet it's a fascinating tale. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I would love to see this on Broadway. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
51. Yeah just fucking fascinating. Her people wrote the rules to the caucus and then |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
9. For me it was the substantial financial support she got from |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:49 AM Response to Original message |
10. The Nevada caucus lawsuit... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. The teacher's union got used as Hillary's tool. |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. The Nevada caucus rules were new, and there was a lot of confusion. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. And they didn't figure this out until a few days after the Culinary union endorsed? |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Did you see all the names on the lawsuit? |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Actually it is quite simple |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. More to the point |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. "How dare they get upset because they thought the Nevada caucus system rendered their votes |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Like I said, everything is in the timing. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. It certainly helps if you really really want it to be a duck |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Hey, do the math yourself. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:33 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Considered it. |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:21 AM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Can't do the math??? |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I don't like Hillary that much to begin with. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Harry Reid's son ran Hillary's campaign in Nevada. |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
47. She was found out. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. And THEN they voted for her, all those people she tried to disenfranchise. |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Actually no. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. And just when I think I know how bad they are I learn it was worse. |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
58. Actually, no. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:24 AM Response to Original message |
18. It's so cute the things you use to justify the irrational hatred. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. The more I learn, the more shenanigans they pull |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I remember Al Gore not wanting Clinton to campaign with him |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Democrats retaining the Presidency should have been more important |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Well, I believe that Al Gore's decision to run away from a successful president |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:50 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Gore tried his best to keep the Presidency in our hands, Bill Clinton didn't. That is what I see. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Be that as it may, it's still an incredibly weak attack on Hillary Clinton |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:06 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You think that being a contributory factor to George Bush getting the Presidency is not a big deal. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I think you'll do anything to keep from admitting you have a weak argument |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:27 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Al Gore felt strongly enough about it that he and Bill got into a tiff and still have hard feelings. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:40 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. You're the one making this all about Bill |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:54 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Bill has made it all about Bill. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
65. the gore team made it very clear |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Even if Gore didn't want Bill at his side |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:41 AM Response to Original message |
37. You told him Clenis didn't you? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Actually, I attributed all of that to Hillary... |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
56. Obama supporters do nothing but lie about Hillary. And yet I don't dislike Obama. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
59. Thats not saying much about your brother. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
67. I do not believe they twisted the Reagan Comment... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
68. Yes, HRC is going back to her Goldwarter roots of Atwater-type Dirty Campaigning ... |
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