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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:01 PM Original message |
When discussing gay issues with someone, is their use of the term "homosexual" a red flag for you? |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Correct me if I'm wrong |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I don't remember "gay" ever being un-PC |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Depended on the context (who was using it, and how they were using it): |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Gay is un-PC if it's used as a put-down, as has become common practice |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Ah -- TOTALLY agree in the "how gay" way |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. B.S. |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. Please deny that using "gay" as a put-down is derived from homophobia |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Look at |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. oh, come on - don't paint me as the villain here. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. I don't think it's that simple |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. What a load of bullshit. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. yep, you sure know me |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. You just couldn't live without using the word "gay" as a put-down |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. you're the one who is actively seeking to limit the personal expression of others |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Right, blah, blah, blah, like I said, it'd be the end of the world n.t |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yeah, that's my take on it, too |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. If they say it "ho-MO-SECH-shu-uhl" real long and slow like it's somebody's dirty sock held at arm's |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I made VEGAN chili for dinner tonight |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Your wife is a terrible influence. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. She is! |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
52. The roast is only meh, but the sausages are really good. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:46 PM Original message |
Most impressed |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. Like "VEEE-gan" it's all in the delivery for me. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Ha! Exactly |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. She's an opportunistic vegan. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. And I doubt it was TVP -- tsk tsk |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. That does not count. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Yeah, right. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Okay, you have to PM because I have no idea where you're going with that. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. Like in that line from the ICR about "dangerous vegans"? |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. yep that was the one I was thinking |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
38. Perfect description! |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think so. The more correct term is gay (I think!) I stand corrected if it isn't. nt |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Nothing to correct, imo! |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. Also "sexual preference", that was included in an OP here today |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. OMG -- that and "lifestyle"drive me bonkers |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Yes! A "lifestyle" is something one chooses. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Yup, why would any sane person choose to be villified? |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. You got me. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Ha -- I know! |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
73. Hey, maybe I can pick you guys up and take you to the ship! |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
78. I've heard some BDSM people say that |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Well sure! |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. That one kills me. Long hair vs short is a preference. Standing up is a sexual preference. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. It's equivalent to "Negro" |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. Bingo. Totally clinical and devoid of humanizing. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
54. yup, when I read the OP I thought of my mother in law. she uses both terms |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Your MIL is exactly the type of lady I meant as my "pass" |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. that's so cool! he'll love having a job! |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Oh, definitely |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
57. nope |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Yup |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. Yes, it is. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
12. I use the word all the time. But I try to be precise. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Your last sentence made me laugh |
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AGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. kind of , esp (homosexual marriages) |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
58. yeah, but "homosexualist" is a made-up word for purposes of derision. |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
20. I hate using the term gay, in fact I was told "gays" in my family to not use it |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
23. I would wish that |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
24. red flag? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. When it's used as a noun, or even as an adjective, with invisible quotes around it |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. Ahh okay I get what you mean |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Like, "Oh, you're 'Pagan.' Do you worship Satan?" |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. She's 17 |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #65 |
89. She may be bi or she may not be |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. Don't worry |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Yeah- this is true. |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
25. It would depend on the context. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
26. Not necessarily, I use it quite often, but I also like trying to be precise in my words... |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
28. Interesting question... my Mother, who is "over a certain age" |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. I do agree that context is important |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
63. Red-flags, as long as they are just markers |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
66. Ok, I'll agree here - I think I may have missed part of the original point.... |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
32. It's appropriate as an adjective to describe behavior |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
56. Excellent distinction. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Another great adjective is "homoerotic" |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
37. it depends on who says it, but most times when i hear "homosexual" the word "Agenda" |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Yup, or "rights" or "marriage" |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. unless of course it is that righteous |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
40. huh? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. "Gay"isn't a slang term |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
72. I beg to differ! |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
82. How about gaydar? nt |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
45. Red flags = prejudice. n/t |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
68. Yeah, with the age qualifier, I'd say so - like "President Bush" is a red flag |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. hahahaha!! oh dear.... yes, when have I ever said that?! |
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eileen_d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
81. No |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
84. Every time I hear it I think of Delta Burke's role in Designing Women. "Homo-sexshal". |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Just a note about Delta Burke though, has a gay sister, loves the gays! n.t |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Yes, that's why I said her "role" on Designing Women. |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. I know, as long as she came up I just wanted to "out" her as very gay-friendly |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
85. Yes. So, what's the next step? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
93. Sometimes. |
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