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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:39 PM Original message |
the politics of fake outrage. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good topic. Thank you for posting this. Just a couple thoughts to start with: |
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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. good example |
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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. another carter example |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Exactly. A lot of people just couldn't wait to beat the crap out of Jimmy Carter |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. Want to help propagate a new term for this? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Iwcon, thank you for mentioning McCain's "outrage" on Kerry's botched joke, |
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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. i like it, twistunderstanding |
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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. the kerry mccain thing is a perfect exsample |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. McCain and others took the short-term cheap shot to advance their own |
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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. i forget |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I want to feel that there is a deeply humane man in McCain, but since his |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
43. Yuck, don't bring up that hug again. Someone will post a picture. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. I love the humor in your subject line, avrdream! Excellent! |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
55. I have thought about McVain's transformation since the new millenium's start |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Hi, Plucketeer. Yep -- it is an unnerving thought -- John McCain picking |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. The outrage of some fundamentalist Muslims over the Danish cartoons is |
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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. the cartoon thing |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fake Outrage |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. Witch-burning. It comes to mind because the fire-belching preachers of |
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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. you mean women can |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Good for your mom. And good for you. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
18. I'm put off when Senator Obama is debased on either an inauthentic charge |
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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. we all have to choose based off of |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Yes. |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
21. My impression of the Indignation Crew in GDP... |
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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. how do you know that she is a witch? |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
23. I don't think all the outrage is necessarily "fake" |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. As for your first and foremost goal, can the Democrat start tomorrow morning? |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. I sense a hugh sign of relief emanating from the White House |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Agree that whoever's left there is probably up to no good. I mean hell, |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. I've learned to never underestimate him |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
24. Fake outrage - here's another example - |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. pirhana, you know I have an abiding respect for Senator Biden, so it will |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Hi OC! |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Dodd appeared to have escaped the fake outrage coverage, but unfortunately, |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I'm actually glad that the field is dwindling down now. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Understandable. Especially when the three Democrats who are no longer |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Sorry - I was referring to Hil-bama. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Whoops. Sorry -- I thought you meant the three who had dropped out. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. sure there have been |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. On the point of fake outrage and Kucinich... the UFO story was the craven |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. You are right - how could I forget about that haircut? |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. just noticed |
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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
54. i remember |
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pdxmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. You have described the entirety of right-wing talk radio and Faux News. n/t |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. right wing propaganda |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. Indeed! One such 'outrage' is the notion that "White men can't talk" |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. There you go with using facts again, mzmolly. Facts are very off-putting for |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. LOL |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
33. Couldn't agree more! |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. You might not have heard it as an insult, ma'am, because you're always too |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. "Looking" for an insult ... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. "We have troops dying in a quagmire, we're torturing people, the |
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mathewsleep (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. exactly! |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Unfortunately, too many people wait for the media to |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
64. "articulate" in Newsweek |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. And I would say |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I agree - it blows my mind because |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Maybe a scandal or two |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
41. How DARE you suggest that people are not rightfully passionate about civil rights!? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
42. Manufacturing consent -- and silencing opposition . . . |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Some mighty good suggestions there, and let's do the primary schedule |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
58. Welcome to DU mathewsleep ! |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
59. This is a nice thread. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. You've already added your good will and good energy, and that's plenty, |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
61. There are instances also when here appears to be "moral outrage" on a |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
63. yes. |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
68. I think many DUers are angry and frustrated to begin with |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Indeed, we should. I call that out even if it's not my candidate |
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