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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:48 PM
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Bill Clinton: Unprecedented bad behavior for a former president!
This is quite frankly OUTRAGEOUS. Did George H.W. Bush get involved in the republican primary in 2000 or even Jeb Bush for that matter? NO. They may have done work behind the scenes but not in public. Same thing in 1980, did Richard Nixon endorse Ronald Reagan before the convention? In 1992, did Jimmy Carter work for a candidate's nomination for the dem convention?

NO! Former presidents do not so blatantly get down in the mud and hurl unfounded accusations against the opponents they dislike. They stay "above the fray" and act as elder statesmen. Growing up, I loved Bill Clinton and he's the reason I'll be a democrat for life but his behavior lately is just beyond outrageous.

He is so desperate to do an end run around the 22nd ammendment to get a third term that he'll do anything to win. Just like Mr. Rove. "Fairly tale", "give me a break", his comments about the union lawsuit, etc. He's forgotten his role.

What would happen if Obama or Edwards were to win the nomination. The GOP will hammer them with our own ex-president's comments!! Clinton won't be able to stump effectively for either of them now.

I am ashamed at this man's behavior. No former president in history from either party has ever acted in such a downright despicable way in his party's primaries.

Is George W. Bush shilling for his candidate in this year's primary? NO! He's saying "I'll support the nominee whoever it is."

Bill has forgotten his status as former president. He's just a old partisan hack now.

Flame away. I know that I have the truth on my side and history on my side as well of how former presients have acted.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:49 PM
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1. Why is he so desperate to get back in the White House?
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:51 PM
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5. New Interns?
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:55 PM
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10. Who wouldn't want to live there?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:07 PM
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21. Heating bill paid by U.S. Americans. Good food. Private plane. Already have china.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:09 PM
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22. And You Get A Private Showing Of Any Movie You Want
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 07:10 PM
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30. There's a bowling alley, too. n/t
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 07:58 PM
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32. And free room service, 24/7. Wow, sign me up!
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:50 PM
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2. um, I don't think any of the Nominees WANT baby bush
to stump for them. And, as for Bill, I think this is faux outrage on your part. If he gets involved in the Supreme Court and makes them stop counting the votes giving Hillary a win, then we can talk.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:51 PM
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3. This is an unprecedented situation.
That calls for unprecedented action on his part.
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:54 PM
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38. Agreed.. she IS his wife... n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:51 PM
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4. No one will be able to blame anyone but Bill Clinton himself for the repercussions of his behavior.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:53 PM
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8. BS and tripe. That all you got? n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:06 PM
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19. Suggested scapegoats:
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 06:07 PM by AtomicKitten
MSM
Heartbreak of psoriasis
Monica
The Vast Rightwing Conspiracy
Jesus and the Jews
Sanjaya
Tainted clams
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:51 PM
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6. He's playing the entitled boomer brat to a tee
because he can.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:52 PM
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7. How nice to hear from our Canadian neighbours
Thank you for your opinions and wisdom. I hope you enjoy your stay at DU, bless your heart. :hi:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:53 PM
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9. imo it's a mistake for him to act as BAD COP...
It isn't presidential ~ and reminds people of that finger-wagging side of him that makes people cringe.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:05 PM
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33. Strange you should say that about the finger-wagging.
My daughter said yesterday when she saw him ragging on the reporter that it
reminded her of the "I did not have sex with that woman." lie.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:39 PM
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36. Yep - that's what it reminded me of too...
It's not Bubba at his best! :)
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:58 PM
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11. Right wing claims that was Jimmy Carter. Go figure.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:00 PM
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12. I've never seen this side of Bill Clinton before...
He's acting like a real asshole.

I don't know about anyone else, but it makes me think that all of that shucky-darn, affable,
nice-guy stuff was just a thin veneer.

I was a huge Bill Clinton fan, too. I stuck up for him and even defended his, "I did not...have..."
comments.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:06 PM
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17. He didn't inhale the joint, but what about that cigar?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:17 PM
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25. Let's all just hope...
...that cigar wasn't lit.

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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:00 PM
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13. i've always been a fan of bill clinton.
however, he has gotten on my nerves during this campaign almost to the point of my disliking him.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:02 PM
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14. Me, too
And nobody's more surprised than I am. I could never have imagined disliking Bill Clinton.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:07 PM
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20. i know.
i'm glad i'm not alone.:toast:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:19 PM
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27. Well 89% of dems love him so ...oh well
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 07:08 PM
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29. Me too. Like a poster said upthread, Is THIS the real Bill Clinton
we're seeing. Was President Bill just a show?
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:03 PM
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15. Your concern is noted
Kthnxbai.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:04 PM
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16. A LOT of things about Hillary Clinton's campaign are unprecedented.
It's a very unusual situation -- not only that she's a woman, which makes the "first gentleman" role new, but also that she's the spouse of a former president. It's all new.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:06 PM
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18. He's out of control
how can you respect someone behaving as he is? Your point about bush pere and junior, is particularly spot on.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:13 PM
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24. My problem
My problem is that it always seems to be about him. I remember his 2000 speech being criticized at the Democratic national convention in Los Angeles as it was all about him and not about supporting Gore. I watched his 2004 speech at the DNC for John Kerry and was blown away by how good it was and he stumped very effectively for Kerry in 2004. I thought "after this, how could anybody not vote for John after hearing Bill talk."

I hated how the media treated him after the pardons and his post-presidency reviews as well. For the longest time, I thought I hope HRC wins in 2008 to wipe the smirks off of the right-wing smear machine.

But things have changed a lot since 2001 and this Bill Clinton is disturbing. Desperation is eking through, he's losing his temper, and he's just not acting like a former president should at all.

Oh, and I didn't realize that people who didn't live in the U.S. presently aren't welcome here. I'll leave if you prefer.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 07:10 PM
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31. I want you to stay. So there.
:hi: Welcome to DU!
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gdaerin Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:10 PM
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Totally Agree, but it's really entertaining right?
yeah, his comments on the lawsuit were just inane, he completely made the "five times" figure up.

For those of you who haven't researched it, trust me he made it up, and then tried to present non-truths as fact. or don't trust me, research it yourself!

Very irresponsible behavior for a president, especially considering it's so easy for Anyone to research the facts these days.

So is his behavior more irresponsible or just stupid? I can't decide!
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:10 PM
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23. I also wish he'd stay out of it as much as possible. I'd rather this be about Hillary.
Frankly, if Hillary wins, I don't want Bill on the front line. He is fast becoming a detriment to HIllary's campaign.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:18 PM
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26. I'm proud of him. He is out there fighting for what he believes
I support Hillary and would be very disappointed if he wasn't all out

Suck it up cry baby :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 07:06 PM
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28. I feel exactly the same way that you do. Thanks for putting it so concisely.
:applause:
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:28 PM
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34. When the Clintons lie during the primary it makes me wonder if they
are going to continue to do so once they are in the Whitehouse (and I like most people are fed up with politicians who lie to the American Public).
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:33 PM
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35. His legacy is not being helped by this.
That's for sure. Then again, it would be hard for him to stay out of it. He's playing for all the marbles. Quite a gamble if Hillary loses.
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water Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:43 PM
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37. To be fair, he is the husband of a candidate.
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