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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 07:59 AM Original message |
I Can Understand Not Supporting Obama If His Oppenents Were Gore or Feingold |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. Shhhhh.... Edwards fans will call you names.... |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Overall, I see Edwards supporters "calling names" much less than others... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. That is exactly how I feel |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. This Edwards fan will not call names |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. It's Obama's running mate, Reagan, that really bothers us. |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Hillary's running mates, Newt and Rupert, bother us as well |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Don't change the subject. |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Hillary has Murdoch under control? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. yeah-like Obama has Donny M. under control!! |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
45. Don't forget Grover. nt |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
3. Bingo |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
5. Obama = DLC |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. John Edwards was the DLC poster boy when he was in the Senate. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
32. I haven't forgotten that, and my gripe with Edwards is this... |
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Labors of Hercules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #32 |
60. Edwards was given a real opportunity to become POTUS... |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. funny, but that sounds |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
34. well, not in the "Greg Brady" word of exact words... |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Let me take a shot at this |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. "it's the tone of his campaign, the different approach to politics. " |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. To clarify something--I have read that Obama got his name OFF of the member list--and |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #26 |
38. My take on that |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. thanks, very informative --also, it seems |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Some back story on this |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. another informative post -Thank you. Yes, organizations have various |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #55 |
66. "Member of the DLC" |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. seems like worth-while events. Interesting understanding of the term |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
84. I think you've got the basic idea |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. what was the "obscure" list? |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. There were several lists |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. The list Ed referred to was the Senate listing of "New Democrat Directory" |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
46. You can type that all day long and it still won't be true. nt |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. yeah, you can deny it all day long. But you're used to living in denial. But just out of curiosity |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. I find it funny that you're pointing out a relationship that doesn't exist |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. where, exactly, did I point out a relationship? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. ... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. no, sorry. '=' means "like" or, "Obama is like the DLC" |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #54 |
65. Thanks for Obama's words and his relationship to the DLC--or as he |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
52. very well stated. This post is a keeper. |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
86. Oh the irony |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #86 |
98. and, aside from the experience factor, why I'd have no problem supporting him in the GE |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
6. Speaking of Gore, I don't know if he will endorse any our candidates |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
8. Your use of the term triangulation is demeaning--I see it as looking at all/many |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. triangulation is a political term, not a problem-solving term |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. its also used in research and physics--getting the broard view |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. If obama got all those various groups together including big Phar and Insurance |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. it remains to be seen |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. so, in the end--your use of the term-to demean anyone who you see 'triangulating' |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I guess for Magic Rat its not triangulating if you use the word hope |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. yes. if Hope refers to Obama. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
48. it has been given a bad name by those that use it for cover. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
28. People keep on misusing that term on here lately -- it drives me crazy |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Yes, many use it to dismiss people --and it effectively shuts down conversation. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
18. I desperately want to know how, or if, he'll vote on the "new, improved" Telco immunity bill. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #18 |
50. OH CRAP!! "Reid determined to bring FISA bill with retroactive immunity to the floor" - |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
83. I asked Kerry about this when I saw him yesterday |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
19. K and R. The more I read this place the more I come to realize |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I made a few changes: |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #19 |
41. I do understand and genuinely respect your position.... |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
97. I think that's fair and gracious of you because my critique |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
21. I have absolutely no issue with it- of the three Obama is my third choice |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
27. "hawkish" You have blinders on. Look at her record and look |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. i have always said--Obama and Clinton are very much alike. "hawkish" is another |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
29. Obama is as much a hawk as Clinton and Edwards |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. I swear some of these Obama fans didn't live through Reaganomics |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Reaganomics sucked -- his social policies sucked more |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I just posted Reagan's foreign policy pic too |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #43 |
69. Are you irked at me?! |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Irked only for not visiting me yet |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. the 'trickles' only trickles to the affluent--it is stuck in the upper box. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #47 |
70. Exactly |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
30. Obama is as much a hawk as Clinton and Edwards |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
35. It is the way it was done and expressed by Obama |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
53. *cough* |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Interesting. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #53 |
63. "you can be a Democat for one day" /Vote for Obama. ITS all about 'choice" the 'third way" |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
64. Funny, I can't see voting for the neophyte when you have a better choice |
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NoBorders (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
71. It's amazing how progressives have slammed the DLC and Dem |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. HA HA-CLINTON GETTING A PASS!! YOU HAVE got to be joking!--this thread |
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NoBorders (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Whoah, settle down pardner |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. NOR do I see Obama supports taking him to task--moving to the left if |
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NoBorders (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. I agree |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
76. Obama beats all in his Oratory style--it is very Seductive--like falling in Love |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Yeah, very seductive........... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Unfortunately, it's easy to fall in love with a psychopath too... |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. you're not saying Obama is a psychopath, right? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Lol - just pointing out that sometimes the person people think they're falling in love with... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
89. In the GE, he will have to *debate* the republican contender. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
78. I think probability of war with Iran is high if Clinton is elected |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
81. Feingold can't decide between Clinton and Obama: |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
82. As a Dem activist for 30+ years... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
87. We just disagree... |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. no, I understand why you like edwards |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Oh, hate... sorry... no, I'm with you there. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
88. On the progressive conversion of John Edwards: |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. that's a nice sentiment |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. What's great about Edwards is that a lot of non "die-hard democrats" |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Well, I'd sure rather have a politician cave to progressive pressure... |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
94. I'm not even sure you can put Gore's name on there... |
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